40+ lbs with 12 Plants in 2 Rooms on a Flip
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DoubleAtotheRON
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I only had it tested once after the install.... dont even remember the numbers.
Renfro
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Fortunately our water is cheap, my average monthly bill is around 40 bucks. Thats with a LOT of water usage. Back in KC missouri I paid more than that for the monthly meter charge lol. Electricity however is about 2x as costly here as it was in KC.
I know that my reservoir water changes as it turns with the seasons, that said most well water I have experienced is very stable.
Bignutes
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Your water bill is decent, out of curiosity how much do those Amazon's drink at their max say per day? They must be thirsty at that size!
Electricity here in Alberta is about $0.17 per kWh when everything is factored in. Water is well, close to the mountains here and when I fill my white five gallon pail it's got a decent blue tint like mountain lake water, hard as hell.
Electricity here in Alberta is about $0.17 per kWh when everything is factored in. Water is well, close to the mountains here and when I fill my white five gallon pail it's got a decent blue tint like mountain lake water, hard as hell.
Renfro
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About 1.5 gallons a day per plant.
Sif1
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Plus the coco not being as dense allows more oxygen around the root zone.
Sif1
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I built this flood and drain setup using coco. The chip I use is much more coarse. Reason for that using flood and drain its easy to saturate the pots. The pots in this setup sit on a 10mm mesh to allow for drainage.
Tent size is 3mx1.5mx2mh,
The table is a sheet of ply 2.4l x1.2w
Hold about 100 plants sog.
Preferred fert is GH, however its difficult to get in New Zealand so I end up importing myself.
This is the first one using LEDs. I do use HPS 600s in the other 4 tents. 3 lights per tent 1800watts and the best harvest last yr was 5.3lb of bud, The strain was Bruce Banner from Ilovegrowingmarijuan website. The black tub will be removed, have some newly rooted clones in it.
This table has a mixture. My bro gave my this clone called Pink Plant . See how it runs.
I just received some seeds from Greenpointseeds, Don't know much about them but this is what I got so far.
I want to give Renfro a huge thanks for sharing his knowledge. Any advice on my setup is welcome, plus am always keen to hear about new strains.
Just to let you know Cannabis is still illegal in New Zealand , hence the price of a lb 5k.
And we are currently in full lockdown.
Tent size is 3mx1.5mx2mh,
The table is a sheet of ply 2.4l x1.2w
Hold about 100 plants sog.
Preferred fert is GH, however its difficult to get in New Zealand so I end up importing myself.
This is the first one using LEDs. I do use HPS 600s in the other 4 tents. 3 lights per tent 1800watts and the best harvest last yr was 5.3lb of bud, The strain was Bruce Banner from Ilovegrowingmarijuan website. The black tub will be removed, have some newly rooted clones in it.
This table has a mixture. My bro gave my this clone called Pink Plant . See how it runs.
I just received some seeds from Greenpointseeds, Don't know much about them but this is what I got so far.
I want to give Renfro a huge thanks for sharing his knowledge. Any advice on my setup is welcome, plus am always keen to hear about new strains.
Just to let you know Cannabis is still illegal in New Zealand , hence the price of a lb 5k.
And we are currently in full lockdown.
Renfro
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You are most welcome!
Well be safe in more ways than one. Nobody knows where this is going but it could get hairy really fast.
Sif1
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r the table for flood and drain
I need yo up my game, if I can get 2lb per 4x4 that would be excellent. I had one table last yr produce 5.3 for the whole table which is 9.8 sq foot. But my average was closer to 3lb per table.. So thats not great. There's room for much improvement. Any advice is welcomed.
Does anyone know anything about those strains I posted? I'm all ears on strains and getting these tables dialled in.
Here's a pic of the tank. needs a clean I know. Its a 200L about 44gallons. On its side, has an airstone, water heater 20degrees, circulating pump, and a pump that runs into 40mm, 1 1/2 inch hose connected under the table using flood and drain on a timer it takes 2minutes to flood, to drain about the same, will check it to be sure. It also has a valve so I can adjust the flow rate.
Cheers
Presently am just trying to get these tents dialled in. Currently have 4 running. Target is 8 which basically translates into harvesting 1 table p/w . The one I posted is the only LED one. Rest are HPS 600s and some DE 600s.You are most welcome!
Well be safe in more ways than one. Nobody knows where this is going but it could get hairy really fast.
I need yo up my game, if I can get 2lb per 4x4 that would be excellent. I had one table last yr produce 5.3 for the whole table which is 9.8 sq foot. But my average was closer to 3lb per table.. So thats not great. There's room for much improvement. Any advice is welcomed.
Does anyone know anything about those strains I posted? I'm all ears on strains and getting these tables dialled in.
Here's a pic of the tank. needs a clean I know. Its a 200L about 44gallons. On its side, has an airstone, water heater 20degrees, circulating pump, and a pump that runs into 40mm, 1 1/2 inch hose connected under the table using flood and drain on a timer it takes 2minutes to flood, to drain about the same, will check it to be sure. It also has a valve so I can adjust the flow rate.
Cheers
Renfro
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Check out a strain called Mimosa if you get a chance. I have a breeders cut of it and it's dank, dense, purply.... great yielder.
OCD x M15 is some real fire, good yields.
Freezer Burn x Lemon Fire (Caps Frozen Lemons) is some real good stuff. Definitely needs defoliation.
If you ever run GMO beware of the stretch. She needs 12 weeks to flower and I didn't expect the extra 2 weeks would all be in stretch. It stretched for a month after flip then started to actually flower. Ended up in my lights lol.
I grew a bruce banner about 7 years ago, it was a beefy bitch. I ended up running a pheno of Kandy Kush that was probably the best yielder I ever had. Really lemony and piney with a little gassy note coming on as she ripened. The other phenos I have found of her weren't like that, they were good and yielded well but not insane like that pheno. I am a firm believer that to find a gem phenotype one must sprout 100 beans. Just popping 10 beans may not give you enough odds to get that one really bad ass plant to clone from for a few years.
Genetics is the biggest key for yields. What works for another may not work for you. When you find a winning yielder, keep it and run the hell out of it. Anytime I start fucking around with multiple strains it definitely drops my overall yields. So if you want the consistent yield numbers you gotta stick with the strains that work for you. Having to start from scratch is the worst, can take 1.5 - 2 years to get back in the groove again unless you had your genetics stashed with other growers and can get them back in clone form.
OCD x M15 is some real fire, good yields.
Freezer Burn x Lemon Fire (Caps Frozen Lemons) is some real good stuff. Definitely needs defoliation.
If you ever run GMO beware of the stretch. She needs 12 weeks to flower and I didn't expect the extra 2 weeks would all be in stretch. It stretched for a month after flip then started to actually flower. Ended up in my lights lol.
I grew a bruce banner about 7 years ago, it was a beefy bitch. I ended up running a pheno of Kandy Kush that was probably the best yielder I ever had. Really lemony and piney with a little gassy note coming on as she ripened. The other phenos I have found of her weren't like that, they were good and yielded well but not insane like that pheno. I am a firm believer that to find a gem phenotype one must sprout 100 beans. Just popping 10 beans may not give you enough odds to get that one really bad ass plant to clone from for a few years.
Genetics is the biggest key for yields. What works for another may not work for you. When you find a winning yielder, keep it and run the hell out of it. Anytime I start fucking around with multiple strains it definitely drops my overall yields. So if you want the consistent yield numbers you gotta stick with the strains that work for you. Having to start from scratch is the worst, can take 1.5 - 2 years to get back in the groove again unless you had your genetics stashed with other growers and can get them back in clone form.
Sif1
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Thanks for your reply. really appreciated. I may have got lucky with the Banner, I grew ten, gave 1 to my bro and another to my best mate whom I grew up with. They both struggle with it, so I think they got duds. But the one I saved is awesome in sog, that was the strain I got the 5.3 from. So maybe I got lucky. Some plants almost had 3oz on them. That's using GH products. No one supplies GH downunder anymore,so I have to import them.
I'll have a look at the strains to recommend. Do you have a preferred seedbank? Obviously being in NZ I'm unable to get the cut, so seeds it will need to be.
Hope you are keeping safe. Stock up on everything, even corona. I think this has got some way to go yet.
I was told you couldn't do flood and drain with coco. I've made it work by using bigger chips. Does anyone have any ideas about this?
Cheers Renfro.
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Renfro
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I get most all of my genetics as breeders cuts and a few as beans / plants from my buddies, so I haven't bought a seed since like 2004 ish. When it comes to seeds my buddy is the bean hoarder, there are some posts about it somewhere in this thread, he also had a list of banks he likes:
Same to you, be safe. This is the real deal. I think that the world population is about to take a big hit. I commented about it on another thread, but yeah our house of cards is coming down. I am pretty well stocked up but this is going to last longer than a month or two. They have to invent a vaccine, test it at least a little, manufacture a lot of it, distribute it... This isn't going to be over quick and I think they are downplaying it a lot to prevent/delay mass hysteria.
It's some real fire and the yield potentials are great provided you have the space for her to get big. I really think that she would be great in a SoG taking rooted cuttings directly to 12/12. End up around 4 feet tall and have 3/4 - 1 ounce per plant, most all as one big cola.
Sorry I got high and distracted making this post, lol. Glad this site saved the draft.
Sif1
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Hey mate you get high, you are not beholding to me or anyone. As for growing weed, you are a godsend to us all.
Thanks for the info. Rocking out her e in New Zealand. (NZ).
Gond00s
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hey ren got a question have u tried running the vermiculite yet or no and if so what ratios were u using would. saw u said u wanted to use it hoping u are and if not u just aren't but the plant are looking like their gonna start taking of so your gonna have a good time.
hybridway2
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So you have not given the tap a go yet? Goodluck with the experiment!. How long you been there?
When i switched locations the water was less then desirable to drink or even bath in compared to the prior spot. I was literally carrying 20gal at a time from that opp to this one to feed veg. This went on for a minute then harvested n bought a (mustve been $800) RO machine/filtration.
I had problems using RO. Who knows then cuz i had other dialing in issues to worry about simultaneously switching to led.
After a few runs i ditched the RO for plants & used for drinking. It comes out 0. Shell-Shocked when replacement filters cost me $200 a piece x2 (luckily got $100 off), then a pre-filter the other day. Bought so to bottle water, especially if our water sources get contaminated or can't get out to buy some. You know, the Zombies are just around the corner. Lol!
After giving my tap a chance (110ppm/.2ec) & dialing in led, it works fine. I don't drink it but the plants seam to like it good enough.
You say the water source fluctuates between seasons? Each run would adapt fine hopefully.
Good to see you back in action. You give me goals! Peace n be safe!
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Bignutes
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I would think and agree with hybridway2, plants would adapt, even still tho a TDS pen and your in the ballpark of where the water sits during the season. I am stopping using the rainwater runoff, its got zero buffering ability, no goodies which then most people would have to buy along with ph down, tap water already has both buffering and goodies. Drinking the koolaid which I'm guilty of. My ph down is lemon juice, in enough quantity it buffers and pretty well, you just have to undershoot it by a couple of points. The ph went from 5.86 to 6.47 over three days on tapwater. Pretty good considering it's a fraction of the cost and I can get it while getting groceries.
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hybridway2
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NM all the water being wasted with RO. many are 1:1 & it may not even be necessary. That was bothering me also about using mine.
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