4 1000s or 6 600s

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ericcox134

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I am doing an aeroponics grow with the aeroflo 60 as well as the 60 extension. Im going to flower directly from root and lolipop them as they grow. Plants wont get more the 2.5 feet tall with pure indica purple strain. You think I will benefit more with 4 lumnatek digi 1000s or 6 lumatek digi 600s. . I think that with the 600s I will have more coverage and I will be able to put them only inches above the tops. Either way it will be aircooled. Please give educated advice. Thanks.
 
.......well, I 'd think for sure that I 'd go with the 600's! Especially if your going to lollypop them........you dont need the depth that you get from the 1000's and I believe you'll get a lot better surface coverage and be able to keep the lights closer as well........

I am just firing up an areoflo 20 this week. Do you have a journel your going to do your grow on?? Have you used that system before??

Thanks, and great luck with your grow.....

growinman
 
you could run 7 600's cheaper than 4 1ooo's!!Overall 600 watters are the best to use.They have the most lumens per watt.
 
chongsbuddy said:
you could run 7 600's cheaper than 4 1ooo's!!Overall 600 watters are the best to use.They have the most lumens per watt.
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1000s put off 140,000 Lumens per light no 600 can do that im getting 2 pounds every 60 days dried and ready to smoke thats 8 pounds for your 4 1000s:mrgreen:
 
chongsbuddy said:
you could run 7 600's cheaper than 4 1ooo's!!Overall 600 watters are the best to use.They have the most lumens per watt.
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You can spread the 600s more evenly over an area, but the 1000s have light intensity, and penetrage further down into the foilage.
4x 1000w ballasts are more cost effective that 7x 600w ballasts.
 
then why does every fucking light company say to buy the 600 watters,not just them,but everybody.600 watters are the best bang for the buck...PERIOD!!!!i SWEAR TO GOD PEOPLE JUST COME ON THIS SITE TO FUCK WITH PEOPLE.I gave advise on pure research!Do a search on 600 watt on this forum and look at the results,you will see.7 600 watters will be cheaper,produce a lot more light and produce less heat than 4 1000 watters....PERIOD.Its more lumens to the plants also because u can put the lights closer to the plants.
 
Lets look at lumens, the 600 puts out 81,000 mean lumens while the 1000 watt puts out 124,000 mean lumens. 4x124,000= 496,000 lumens total and 6x81,000=486,000 lumens. only 10k less lumens at 400 watts less power. About the only way I would recommend the 4x1000 over the 600 is if you are growing very tall plants and need that extra penetration. Add a 400 watt HPS in there for an additional 45000 lumens and be 35,000 lumens ahead for the same power.
 
chongsbuddy said:
then why does every fucking light company say to buy the 600 watters,not just them,but everybody.600 watters are the best bang for the buck...PERIOD!!!!i SWEAR TO GOD PEOPLE JUST COME ON THIS SITE TO FUCK WITH PEOPLE.I gave advise on pure research!Do a search on 600 watt on this forum and look at the results,you will see.7 600 watters will be cheaper,produce a lot more light and produce less heat than 4 1000 watters....PERIOD.Its more lumens to the plants also because u can put the lights closer to the plants.
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Chill you dont have a clue of what your talking about 600s are cheaper to run because they use less electricty thats why everybodys mom uncle and brother buys them but if you get 1000s you can and will get fatter and denser buds period but will have a higher elec bill and you can put 1000s close if you have the right exhaust and a window ac unit plus 600 watt bulbs cost a lot 1000s dont :peace: I do know what the fuck im talking about not by research by using both light set ups so stop making acusations that you SWEAR TO GOD PEOPLE JUST COME ON THIS SITE TO FUCK WITH PEOPLE.lol idiot
 
NoDrama said:
Lets look at lumens, the 600 puts out 81,000 mean lumens while the 1000 watt puts out 124,000 mean lumens. 4x124,000= 496,000 lumens total and 6x81,000=486,000 lumens. only 10k less lumens at 400 watts less power. About the only way I would recommend the 4x1000 over the 600 is if you are growing very tall plants and need that extra penetration. Add a 400 watt HPS in there for an additional 45000 lumens and be 35,000 lumens ahead for the same power.
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My bulbs put out 140000 lumens
 
No they don't, they only put out 140,000 lumens when the bulb is almost new, after they have been used for a bit their lumen output is decreased. Thats why its called MEAN Lumens and not Initial Lumens.
 
in my humble opinion ... (and yes i run 1000 watt lights) in this situation i have to say use the 600 watters.
the reason i say this is that the lights spread out will penetrate much deeper than the 1000s would because you will need to pull the 1000s back a bit to get the coverage. a 1000 watter may be more intense at its center mass but with the 600s you will have way better coverage getting way more lumens to the plants than you would with less lights.
and yes it will cost you a little less money as well to run.
so i think in this case for sure the coverage you are going to get from 6 lights versus 4 will far out weigh the advantage 1000 watt lights have in luminous intensity
 
ericcox134 said:
I am doing an aeroponics grow with the aeroflo 60 as well as the 60 extension. Im going to flower directly from root and lolipop them as they grow. Plants wont get more the 2.5 feet tall with pure indica purple strain. You think I will benefit more with 4 lumnatek digi 1000s or 6 lumatek digi 600s. . I think that with the 600s I will have more coverage and I will be able to put them only inches above the tops. Either way it will be aircooled. Please give educated advice. Thanks.
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I'm running two 1000W HPS lights. I'm harvesting a pound every three weeks.

If I had my choice and power was an issue then I would go with 600W lights. If money is not an issue then I would go with six 1000W lights.

Think of it like a car...
1000W = 1970 Dodge Hemi Cuda.
600W = 2008 Dodge Hemi Cuda.
400W = One of those little rice burners with a fart can.
HO Fls = One of those little hybrid fuckers.
CFLs = You're riding the short bus

With cars the more power, the faster you go. With lights, the more power the faster you grow...
 
NoDrama said:
No they don't, they only put out 140,000 lumens when the bulb is almost new, after they have been used for a bit their lumen output is decreased. Thats why its called MEAN Lumens and not Initial Lumens.
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sorry to bust your bubble i use brand new bulbs every 50 days:peace::blsmoke: thats just one major thing that gets me high yeilds:mrgreen:
 
I would go with the 600 watt lights 6 of them would give you so much coverage on that AeroFlo 60. You will have plenty of dense buds with that much light on that system. You would be good with either choice but I would do the 600s.
 
I guess nobody remembers that Al B. was an E.E. by training and posted no less than 20 times the breakdown on efficiency btween 1000s and 600s.

Answer: 1000s are always more light for the money. look it up and do some math if you don't believe the formulas employed by an electrical engineer.

Also, maybe its just me but I didn't see the dimensions of the grow area to be lit. 50w/square foot is what you want for max yield and density. How you get there is your decision if you don't want to take sciences word for it.

Also you may want to do some research and check out what Al has to say about digi ballasts. The short of it: 9% power savings compared to magnetics will mean years of running it to pay for the extra up-front costs. That is if the circuitry lasts long enough. Alot of electronics and solder points will never last as long as a chunk of iron wrappped in copper wire.

I run 4 air-cooled 1000s on magnetic ballasts with light movers and cover 100 square feet of flood/drain trays. Works out to be 40w/ft and I am quite pleased with the performance. Thanks to the rails and air cooling the fixtures I can keep them a foot from the tops. I flower from clone and run 4
plants per square foot on a 2 week rotation. 600s will give you nice lollipops but 1000s will give you a stand of donkey dicks.
 
Old in the Way said:
I guess nobody remembers that Al B. was an E.E. by training and posted no less than 20 times the breakdown on efficiency btween 1000s and 600s.

600s will give you nice lollipops but 1000s will give you a stand of donkey dicks.
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Hahaha Well put..

I miss Al...

Curious to see what you would say about my set up...

36"x20"x60"... cool tubed 600 HPS... kick ass vent sys... total control between 6F and 95F... with the light 10" from the tops...

That's 600 watts in a 5 square foot area... or 120 watts per sqft...

Or even ... @ 95,000 initial lumens, I have 19,000 initial lumens per square foot...

I do not know the rate of decline, but the bulb is 1 month old running 18/6... I'd love to hear NoDrama's conversion into "mean" lumens...

oh...

and back on topic, if I haven't suggested yet... :eyesmoke: sorry... I would deff. go with 3 rows of 3x cooltubed 600s...

In my opinion, you will be able to bring them closer than the 1000s...

I think you would get more intensity, better distributed... producing that "sweet spot" over the whole grow area...

But what do I know... I can't even remeber if I suggested that to you or someone else... lol....:o:joint::bigjoint::eyesmoke:
 
you should know that plants dont see lummin they see P.A.R.
lummin are what we see, if you do your home work you will
find the info im saying to be true, so with that 600s are the
better bang for the buck and PAR coverage and will get you
a bunch of dank, at first I was on the lummin track but AL
corrected it and I reasearched it and well he was right.
 
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