3 1000W or 5 600W?

Warlock1369 said:

You need the dehumidifier left alone to do it's thing. The air it puts out is the dry air if you evac. It you gain nothing from it being in the room. You realy need the air from the dehy going into the room. Or it's pointless. Hot dry air is what you need. But coolig the heated air is another thing.

Click to expand...

Thank you very much. I just learned something...

damn it realy takes a long time to water 200 plants under 1 light with an eye dropper .flip flop relay basically turns an 8 light grow into a 16 light grow only good for 12/12 keeps u from getting more ballasts kinda cool i need 1. here is some more bud porn forgot to shit on a sign with doms name on it .
unknown cali connection strain
tahoe week 6

whats ur book say bout that dom books only get u so far and i dont think they make a dummies guide to life u fucking wanker.

Let me put it in better terms. The cool most air is sucked threw freezing coils. This traps the moisture to the coils. Sending dry cold air to the heat exchanger. This brings up the heat of the air but lower humidity. That air is displaced over the cooling coils melting it frozen water in the air. Creating RO water in the trap. Great for watering plants. But if you waste the hot dry air all it can do is freeze the moist air. Not bringing in any dry air. Much like adding air to the res but not gaveling it a airstone. Almost pointless.

Hey guys, I tried to read through this thread from about pg. 6 on but couldn't make it through because of all of the useless bitching. I'm sure some of you were provoked and it wasn't your fault, but if you said anything informative in those pages, then feel free to repost...

And I'm sorry, I should have given you all a little more info on my grow as it has been tweaked a little. It's going to be perpetual with no veg (I'll have clones in the EZ clone for 2 weeks then straight to flower). And I hate to say it, but the entire premise of this thread has been tweaked because of this. I no longer have to worry about 600W or 1000W, because I will have four 4x4 tables, with 1000W lights over each... let me know if you think this is a good or bad idea... Thanks fellas...

I no longer need the question initially posed in this thread to be answered, but somebody else may, so feel free to further discuss...

dirtsurfr said:

.........

Click to expand...

Didn't need to see that!! But good one and now off to burn the ol lady's g that looks like the 2nd from the left. It's gonna creep me out. Lol

legaleyes13 said:

Hey guys, I tried to read through this thread from about pg. 6 on but couldn't make it through because of all of the useless bitching. I'm sure some of you were provoked and it wasn't your fault, but if you said anything informative in those pages, then feel free to repost...

And I'm sorry, I should have given you all a little more info on my grow as it has been tweaked a little. It's going to be perpetual with no veg (I'll have clones in the EZ clone for 2 weeks then straight to flower). And I hate to say it, but the entire premise of this thread has been tweaked because of this. I no longer have to worry about 600W or 1000W, because I will have four 4x4 tables, with 1000W lights over each... let me know if you think this is a good or bad idea... Thanks fellas...

I no longer need the question initially posed in this thread to be answered, but somebody else may, so feel free to further discuss...

Click to expand...

It wasn't you. We got a troll so there is no point in reading after Paige 4. But feel freeto read back if you want to laff.

Sorry I jumped in like that removed.
Are you going to do a perpetual grow?

so thats what trolling is guess its a nicer way of calling someone an asshole.

cannabineer said:

The one thing that's been bugging me about 5x600 in a 4x12 space is best placement. i can't figure the optimum. For 3x lamps it's easy ... divide grow into three squares and center a lamp over each square. But five into three ~scratches chin~ cn

Click to expand...

This I can help you with. What you want to do is measure the width of your reflectors. Lets say they're 30 inches. Then you multiply that by 5 and you get 150. Then you convert 12' into inches and you get 144... And damn, I wasn't even expecting this... You could just line em up side by side, because they're bigger than the damn table... lol

I really wasn't expecting that. And yes I know I just pulled 30in out of thin air...

So lets say the width of each reflector is 20in. That gives you a total of 100in of reflector space. And with this info you know that you will have 7 total spaces of separation on either side of each light, and a 44in difference between total light reflector size(100in) and 12ft table(144in). So you then divide 44/7 and you get 6 and some change. So now you know you should keep each light 6 inches apart and the end lights, 6 inches away from the edge of the table...

So that is great coverage.

dirtsurfr said:

Sorry I jumped in like that removed.
Are you going to do a perpetual grow?

Click to expand...

yes, I will

Warlock1369 said:

It wasn't you. We got a troll so there is no point in reading after Paige 4. But feel freeto read back if you want to laff.

Click to expand...

lol... cool. I normally like a good messageboard battle, but I just woke up and I'm a little groggy, so maybe another time.

But still, you seem quite informative. Do you have any knowledge of perpetual grows? This will be my first attempt at it. And I've heard the mantra "there is no such thing as too much light" but my goodness... 1000Ws over a bunch of plants that aren't even gonna be veg'd, on a 4x4 table may be too much light... no?

trouble27 said:

so thats what trolling is guess its a nicer way of calling someone an asshole.

Click to expand...

Think we called him a asshole and other things. Fucker has been on us all day. But yes troll is the nice way to put it.

IndicaDom said:

So no rhyme or reason, 4 600's just cause?

Click to expand...

Honestly I'd probably run 3 600's over that space, I just threw in one more to be even better

legaleyes13 said:

lol... cool. I normally like a good messageboard battle, but I just woke up and I'm a little groggy, so maybe another time.

But still, you seem quite informative. Do you have any knowledge of perpetual grows? This will be my first attempt at it. And I've heard the mantra "there is no such thing as too much light" but my goodness... 1000W over a bunch of plants that aren't even gonna be veg'd may be too much light... no?

Click to expand...

Just click my sig. If you don't find that I can help you just ask. This is just my last 4 years of growing. And in this thread I posted a few pics of new grow to shut the troll up. I won't get afforded if my style isn't yours. But if I can help feel free to ask. I'm not perfict I do make mistakes so don't hold me to everything I say.

trouble27 said:

so thats what trolling is guess its a nicer way of calling someone an asshole.

Click to expand...

I doubt it. Dirtsurfr's "good people". cn

Na I was joshing!! I'm a cheep Old schooler and grow my stuff out door. My first was in door I got Mites
they ate and made babys.... I got some fantastic bud at the end but the cost pushed me out doors were mites are a delicacy to
everything that eats. 6 plants keeps me more than supplyed for the year.

Good luck with you're grow it's habit forming no matter how or were you grow it's the fact that we all enjoy our herb grown by our selves.
Start a grow jornal and cruse read and ask, Theres tons of info if you read or heck just ask, don't fall for the trolls, I know I do BUT I"M OLDer
LOL. To be honest I learned every thing here mostly till I went out side. It's easy grow in soil with lots of worms in it and you'll grow alot.

mr2shim said:

No not really, just proving you like to blow smoke out of your ass. Still waiting on that explanation. I know google is faster than this.

Click to expand...

You're irrelevant, don't you understand?

Warlock1369 said:

We asked you to prove it. And when I proved I was a grower by posting pics of my grow you had this to say.



Originally Posted by Warlock1369
Did I say I ran 5-600w? No becouse I don't. My flower room is 2600w. I was going off what the op was asking.

Gets me 4-5 footers all day.

half way threw harvest.

throw up some more irrelevant budshots, that might help make your case.


So like I said then back you shit up with real proof (please) or shut the fuck up. Now I asked with a please. But I'm sure you can't . And now we want a RIU sign with your user name and date on it in the pic. My lights come on in 1 hour and I'll do the same but you first.

Click to expand...

Go away, I don't have to prove anything, accept it or don't, I don't really care.

mr2shim said:

He can't prove what he doesn't have warlock.

Click to expand...

Yeah, you're right, I obviously have zero knowledge about cannabis cultivation, LOL.

Warlock1369 said:

He can't prove it. Was my point. Who on this site get bitchy when someone post pics of there room and plants like I did when asking for proof? Nobody but this pos. And why I'm asking for the sign with it. Fuck I even have vids in my sig that you cant find on the net. Why becouse they are mine and I only posted them here. And all mine match so no random pics taken. This guy is a fucken joke and I'm having fun pointing it out by this point.

Click to expand...

Nobody cares about your grow, nobody is talking about the small amount of weight you pull, in the world of cannabis cultivation you are an amateur, deal with it.

OLD DUDE said:

He goes directly from cloner to flower in a SOG, runs 200 plants in flower, and gets 1.5 gpw, he would get more but he is a solo grower!! He was spewing his bullshit on another thread

Click to expand...

You were proved wrong, deal with it.

Warlock1369 said:

I'm a solo grower? Wtf dose that mean? 7 pages of the fucknut talking shut and can't pull up 1 pic. But says google it. And Tryed to bash me for putting up my bud porn. What grower dose that? None. Even if I had yellow leaves beer can colas are nice to look at. Right? Lol indicadom is a joke. Couldn't even tell that my plants are almost pure indica.

Click to expand...

Well it means when you start running 200+ plants, in multiple perpetual rooms, the work is a bit more than 1 person can handle, catch my drift? Guess not since you've never grown more than 10 plants at once.

mr2shim said:

LOL You have inspired me warlock. I think this should be standard practice. Too many fake ass trolls here now days.



BTW this is lights off on day 45 if anyone is curious.

Click to expand...

Too bad cannabis can't cure insecurities, eh?

a mongo frog said:

i feel sad now, i hope he isnt at home crying. he may think we hate him. gosh mannn lifes tough.

Click to expand...

The fact that you're worried about me is really pathetic, lol, how insecure are you people?

mr2shim said:

Ran off two trolls in one day, him and that twelveone asshole.

Click to expand...

You haven't ran anybody off, I am still here refuting everything you've said. You haven't even graduated highschool dude, stop spouting off about "trolls", stick the point, but you can't because you don't have one.

cannabineer said:

The one thing that's been bugging me about 5x600 in a 4x12 space is best placement. i can't figure the optimum. For 3x lamps it's easy ... divide grow into three squares and center a lamp over each square. But five into three ~scratches chin~ cn

Click to expand...

That is because 5/600W is the dumbest thing you could do with a 12'x4' table, we've talked about it, these guys are just too ignorant to know they are wrong so they are resulting to name calling.

Warlock1369 said:

I realy wanted this troll to try and fight me. He has been doing it all day. Not that he wasn't informative in some post but just not a real grower. Guess posting real pics got him scared. Fuck it. Now all now I realy grow. And back my shit up. Prove me wrong and I will thank you for it. I'm always looking for ways to improve my grow. But helping others not do what I did is my main goal.

Click to expand...

Scared? Dude, you are insecure.

Warlock1369 said:

Read all but indicaRETARDdons post and you will find the answers you want. That guy was a book smart idiot. Quote a book but not grow. Realy? And I'll be bashed before anyone I posted more pics proving his meatod wrong then any one. Bring it

Click to expand...

You're dumb, I have already shown the numbers, 5/600W is the dumbest thing you could run on a 12'x4' table.

GrowinTheDank said:

Fucking genius lol. Same amount of yield in the same amount of time. You just harvest twice instead of one big harvest Perfect..

Click to expand...

Thank you for your acknowledgement, you are a head above the rest of the class.

GrnMn said:

rexell. a relay is a contact device that can be powered by a small cord from your timer and is activated (closes) when a small amount of power is supplied. The contact is an on/off circuit that can handle the power of several things at once (ie, multiple ballasts). A flip-flop relay is one that is always on, but the power supplied from your timer causes it to switch between one circuit and another (two rooms, half the ballasts). If you like, I can forward you a schematic. Peace frog.

Fuck off dom, plenty of us know what's up, and you're just a bitch.

Click to expand...

These guys don't even know what flip-flop relays are, you sure you still want to side with them?

Warlock1369 said:

The op droped out so I wasn't able to find out the real layout of the room. So that is why it got this far with the troll. I wish I knew more. So o could help the op. I was thinking 1 room veg to flower so that was my idea. Start under 1 600. As plants get bigger go 2 600 then start 3-4. Once tables are full and in flower go all 5 with hps and flower. But duckhead scared the op off so no real idea.

Click to expand...

Horribly inefficient.

trouble27 said:

damn it realy takes a long time to water 200 plants under 1 light with an eye dropper .flip flop relay basically turns an 8 light grow into a 16 light grow only good for 12/12 keeps u from getting more ballasts kinda cool i need 1. here is some more bud porn forgot to shit on a sign with doms name on it .
unknown cali connection strain
tahoe week 6

whats ur book say bout that dom books only get u so far and i dont think they make a diummies guide to life u fucking wanker.

Click to expand...

Learn English please.

legaleyes13 said:

Hey guys, I tried to read through this thread from about pg. 6 on but couldn't make it through because of all of the useless bitching. I'm sure some of you were provoked and it wasn't your fault, but if you said anything informative in those pages, then feel free to repost...

And I'm sorry, I should have given you all a little more info on my grow as it has been tweaked a little. It's going to be perpetual with no veg (I'll have clones in the EZ clone for 2 weeks then straight to flower). And I hate to say it, but the entire premise of this thread has been tweaked because of this. I no longer have to worry about 600W or 1000W, because I will have four 4x4 tables, with 1000W lights over each... let me know if you think this is a good or bad idea... Thanks fellas...

I no longer need the question initially posed in this thread to be answered, but somebody else may, so feel free to further discuss...

Click to expand...

The question was already answered and the most efficient arrangement is 2/1000W on light movers for a 12'x4' table. The 1000Ws will work fine over the tables, but there are better ways.

Warlock1369 said:

Think we called him a asshole and other things. Fucker has been on us all day. But yes troll is the nice way to put it.

Click to expand...

If troll means intelligent grower who proves you wrong, then yes I'm a troll.

legaleyes13 said:

lol... cool. I normally like a good messageboard battle, but I just woke up and I'm a little groggy, so maybe another time.

But still, you seem quite informative. Do you have any knowledge of perpetual grows? This will be my first attempt at it. And I've heard the mantra "there is no such thing as too much light" but my goodness... 1000Ws over a bunch of plants that aren't even gonna be veg'd, on a 4x4 table may be too much light... no?

Click to expand...

Yes, you should of put 600W over the 4'x4' tables, oh well.

Lmfao. The bitch still posts.

Warlock1369 said:

Lmfao. The bitch still posts.

Click to expand...

I'm sorry you can't understand why I chose the arrangment of lights that I did, but 5/600W was bad advice and I am going to keep posting so that anyone who stumbles across this thread will get good information and not the crap you try to push by internet bullying.

He is rather bitch like isn't he