250w HPS Club And Help Guide

Doobieus

Doobieus

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Mindmelted said:
Thanks Doobs,Now comes the hard part...;-)
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No kidding right lol, the wait ohhhh the wait.

Grazzmon said:
Doob,
How long do you really need to flush? Sounds like you flush for a couple weeks. Will using a clearing solution like Flora Kleen shorten that time?

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I do a 2 week flush, that's my way, even with clearing solutions like ClearEx. I don't do any less but sometimes I will do an extra half week to a week.
 
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iDrops

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Doobieus said:
If you want one of Doobie's secrets here you go lol.

I use Nestle Pure life water it has a Ph of 7.0 every time (I still Ph check it every time though, because you never know lol), it's R/O filtered and balanced. Or I use the spring water from those big ass dispensers for the 5 gallon jugs or whatever (Again R/O treated and balanced). Anyhow that's the water I use for the whole grow as well as the flush. The difference with the flush is using molasses with the water as well. I usually use molasses on the 2nd nutrient feeding of my plants in bloom and take it to the last feeding which will usually be straight water, unless I choose differently due to certain circumstances.

As far as flush you're looking at 15 gallons with molasses for a 5 gallon pot.

Make sure on the last feeding to do straight water, and do the last feeding 3 days before you chop. It will help with drying as well as help the plant use up any reserves.

Hope this helps a brudda out lol.

Edit: If you're talking June 21st then that's only an 8 day flush, I'd definitely start flushing now if that's the case lol. Give them molasses through the whole flush even the last feeding. I did the math after I had posted and realized the 8 day thing lol. Anyhow lol, flush with 3 times if not 4 times the water because you're missing about a week of flush. Your cure process is definitely going to need a 1-2 month minimum before you smoke because of the missed week, the cure will metabolize the rest of the nasties after AWHILE, but at least your final product won't be harsh, burn like coal and will get you high.
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Am i supposed to flush everyday? This is starting to worry me because i dont want to mess up now that i have made it this far. Should i push back my harvest date? How long is a proper flush? I only used FF nutes. AhhhHHhHhhh.
 
Doobieus

Doobieus

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iDrops said:
Am i supposed to flush everyday? This is starting to worry me because i dont want to mess up now that i have made it this far. Should i push back my harvest date? How long is a proper flush? I only used FF nutes. AhhhHHhHhhh.
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Whoa dude iDrops calm down lol.

What are your trichomes at percentage wise?

Clear, Cloudy and Amber percentages would help. When you use your microscope or magnifying glass try to get a light to counter the HPS light so it doesn't give you false Amber trichomes, that just look Amber because of the HPS light.

Also what kind of high are you looking for, light and heady or heavy and couch lock?

How many weeks into flowering are you again?

Anyhow flush with 3 times the water, let the plant rest for 1-3 days to prevent root rot, then do another flush, keep doing this pattern until your run off runs clear. You can keep the molasses going throughout the whole flush, I do personally, your choice though. Just make sure you give it a 3 day dry out after the last flush, and harvest in the dark.

If you're in MG soil (I can't remember) do a 3 to 3 and a half week flush.

Start the flush between 8-10 weeks depending on the strain and high you want.
 
Doobieus

Doobieus

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Grazzmon said:
So based on what I posted a couple days ago,
https://www.rollitup.org/2602242-post1482.html

Does it matter if it's hydro or soil? I should be flushing now?

G
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A flush is required either way, 2 weeks is actually not that long of a flush. Some growers go for even longer on their flush. The flush forces the plant to use up the remainder of the nutrients in it's own system, that's why the leaves yellow out when you flush. The remainder of residual nutrients and nasties are metabolized during the dry/cure process. If you don't get all of the nutrients and crap out of the plant your smoke will be harsh and will burn like coal.

Start the flush on the 18th or 19th, that should be about 8 weeks according to that post.

Hope this helps.
 
Grazzmon

Grazzmon

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Doobieus said:
A flush is required either way, 2 weeks is actually not that long of a flush. Some growers go for even longer on their flush. The flush forces the plant to use up the remainder of the nutrients in it's own system, that's why the leaves yellow out when you flush. The remainder of residual nutrients and nasties are metabolized during the dry/cure process. If you don't get all of the nutrients and crap out of the plant your smoke will be harsh and will burn like coal.

Start the flush on the 18th or 19th, that should be about 8 weeks according to that post.

Hope this helps.
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Thanks Doob, if it doesn't really hurt the plant and makes the end product better then I may start my flush today and just run PH'd water with Flora Nectar until harvest. I took some pics today and some tricome pics (it's much easier to check when you have a pic) I see a little amber.

Since I am shooting for 30% and the yield right now is way beyond what I expected it can't hurt right?

G
 

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MostlyCrazy

MostlyCrazy

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Nothing short of a bazooza could hurt those buds! I turn the lights out on them for the last couple of days and that seems to tighten up my strain (LSD). I think it forces them to use the rest of what they got. Smooth in the pipe after a minimal dry and getting better every day. Also rough them up a liitle by twisting the main stems just enough for the plant to send some repair nutes to the area which helps all the buds fill and if you do it without nutes it has to use what it has in the plant itself. Stick thumbtacks in the stems also about every 6" and leave them in for the last 2 weeks. That was a Roseman suggestion about two grows ago and I can see a difference having done it twice. You wait for the last two weeks so there is no chance/no time for going hermy.
 
Doobieus

Doobieus

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Grazzmon said:
Thanks Doob, if it doesn't really hurt the plant and makes the end product better then I may start my flush today and just run PH'd water with Flora Nectar until harvest. I took some pics today and some tricome pics (it's much easier to check when you have a pic) I see a little amber.

Since I am shooting for 30% and the yield right now is way beyond what I expected it can't hurt right?

G
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I'd give it a little more time personally before you start. If you look at picture 4 there's trichomes yes, but if you look real close you can see just the stalks of trichomes without heads. The heads are where the thc/cbd resides, so having that many still trying to develop I would honestly say to wait it out until week 8.

Basically the more resin gland heads the better, regardless of percentages really. The best analogy I can think of is, imagine paying for a slice of pie, and you only get the crust and some of the good part of the pie. Yeah it probably still tastes good, but won't be half as satisfying as the full slice, and since you paid for it you deserve to get a full slice.

Lol pretty lame analogy I know but I tried, hope this helps Grazz.

By the way those buds are looking great Grazz, keep up the great work :bigjoint:.
 
Gobias11

Gobias11

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Hey guys been trying to read as much of this thread as possible and had a question I was hoping someone could help me with. How much per month does a 150watt or 250watt HPS light cost you when you're on 12/12 lighting? I really want to compliment my CFL grow with an HPS light but want to know what kind of electric bill increase I might be looking at each month.

Thanks a lot, guys
 
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iDrops

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Doobieus said:
Whoa dude iDrops calm down lol.

What are your trichomes at percentage wise?

Clear, Cloudy and Amber percentages would help. When you use your microscope or magnifying glass try to get a light to counter the HPS light so it doesn't give you false Amber trichomes, that just look Amber because of the HPS light.

Also what kind of high are you looking for, light and heady or heavy and couch lock?

How many weeks into flowering are you again?

Anyhow flush with 3 times the water, let the plant rest for 1-3 days to prevent root rot, then do another flush, keep doing this pattern until your run off runs clear. You can keep the molasses going throughout the whole flush, I do personally, your choice though. Just make sure you give it a 3 day dry out after the last flush, and harvest in the dark.

If you're in MG soil (I can't remember) do a 3 to 3 and a half week flush.

Start the flush between 8-10 weeks depending on the strain and high you want.
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Hahah sorry about the freakout but i was pretty blazed from this stuff called Amnesia Haze that my buddy grew and idk i guess i really did lose my mind or something.

Anyways, im on the 9th week of flowering now. Trichs are at a ratio that i like. 10/50/40 clear/cloudy/amber. I have flushed her twice now with 10 gallons each time. And the run off has eventually ran clear. Im not too worried about a bad flush this time. Ill take it as a learning experience. Plus i have a White Widow x Mako Haze about a month or so from harvest :bigjoint:
 
Grazzmon

Grazzmon

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Doobieus said:
I'd give it a little more time personally before you start. If you look at picture 4 there's trichomes yes, but if you look real close you can see just the stalks of trichomes without heads. The heads are where the thc/cbd resides, so having that many still trying to develop I would honestly say to wait it out until week 8.

Basically the more resin gland heads the better, regardless of percentages really. The best analogy I can think of is, imagine paying for a slice of pie, and you only get the crust and some of the good part of the pie. Yeah it probably still tastes good, but won't be half as satisfying as the full slice, and since you paid for it you deserve to get a full slice.

Lol pretty lame analogy I know but I tried, hope this helps Grazz.

By the way those buds are looking great Grazz, keep up the great work :bigjoint:.
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Well.. I did a flush already and filled the res with ph"d water and Flora Nectar. I could go back to the nute mixture but I used the last of my GH Micro on the last nute change. All I have at the moment is GH Flora Bloom, Floalicious Plus and Flora Nectar. As far as that picture, I posted that because it was the clearest. When I get home I'll post a couple of the others.

G

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zechbro

zechbro

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MostlyCrazy said:
Nothing short of a bazooza could hurt those buds! I turn the lights out on them for the last couple of days and that seems to tighten up my strain (LSD). I think it forces them to use the rest of what they got. Smooth in the pipe after a minimal dry and getting better every day. Also rough them up a liitle by twisting the main stems just enough for the plant to send some repair nutes to the area which helps all the buds fill and if you do it without nutes it has to use what it has in the plant itself. Stick thumbtacks in the stems also about every 6" and leave them in for the last 2 weeks. That was a Roseman suggestion about two grows ago and I can see a difference having done it twice. You wait for the last two weeks so there is no chance/no time for going hermy.
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you think sticking the pins in made a massive differance?
 
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