25 days flowering and brown hairs

AdReNaLiNeRuSh

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I have another theory about the dying hairs. I, too, have been having specific buds with the hairs turning and dying. Coincidentally, I have a habit of squeezing the bud while it's still growing so that I can see how dense it is and how wonderful it smells. Go figure, the buds that I squeeze are the ones that have brown hairs.

As for the bud density, there's so many variables that play into this I don't know where to start. I guess there are four main factors. First is the environment. Do you have good ventilation in the room? Good ventilation means low humidity and heat. I have found that high temperatures can totally hamper buds from fattening up. Second is your light. Are you using a HID bulb or just CFLs? The type of bulb dictates how much energy your plants receive. Third is your nutes. Your plant appears to be healthy overall with no signs of deficiencies, however, that doesn't mean that it is receiving enough nutes, or the proper array of nutes. You should reference another thread or website to see a breakdown of what your plant needs. Also, not letting your soil dry out plays into this. If your soil is constantly drying out, the plant isn't getting the chance to uptake the nutes that it needs when it needs. And finally, your pot size. If there is anything that I have learned from growing, it's that 90% of the work you put forth should be in accomodating the roots. Roots are everything. And if you have a large plant without a large enough root ball (ie large pot for roots to expand), your harvest will suffer.

As for the time left your plant has... How long has it been on 12/12? The average plant takes 8 weeks. And from the picture, yours doesn't look like it has too much sativa in it, so it should be close to a 8 week plant as well.

:peace:
-AR
 

Jack in the Bud

Active Member
I have another theory about the dying hairs. I, too, have been having specific buds with the hairs turning and dying. Coincidentally, I have a habit of squeezing the bud while it's still growing so that I can see how dense it is and how wonderful it smells. Go figure, the buds that I squeeze are the ones that have brown hairs.

As for the bud density, there's so many variables that play into this I don't know where to start. I guess there are four main factors. First is the environment. Do you have good ventilation in the room? Good ventilation means low humidity and heat. I have found that high temperatures can totally hamper buds from fattening up. Second is your light. Are you using a HID bulb or just CFLs? The type of bulb dictates how much energy your plants receive. Third is your nutes. Your plant appears to be healthy overall with no signs of deficiencies, however, that doesn't mean that it is receiving enough nutes, or the proper array of nutes. You should reference another thread or website to see a breakdown of what your plant needs. Also, not letting your soil dry out plays into this. If your soil is constantly drying out, the plant isn't getting the chance to uptake the nutes that it needs when it needs. And finally, your pot size. If there is anything that I have learned from growing, it's that 90% of the work you put forth should be in accomodating the roots. Roots are everything. And if you have a large plant without a large enough root ball (ie large pot for roots to expand), your harvest will suffer.

As for the time left your plant has... How long has it been on 12/12? The average plant takes 8 weeks. And from the picture, yours doesn't look like it has too much sativa in it, so it should be close to a 8 week plant as well.

:peace:
-AR
AR,

I've got the same habit of "feeling up" and fondling my buds as they're growing. I haven't noticed that this has caused any hairs to brown up or reden where I've touched though.

I think having a few red hairs here and there is pretty much normal from the mid flowering stage on. As long as they're randomly distributed and not to numerous (until close to harvest) I don't see it as a problem. I think it's simply a matter of some of the earlier pistals that formed dying off. As long as the plant is putting on plenty of fresh new white ones I don't think these are a cause for concern.

But if a major portion of them started to reden up to early in the flowering stage, like you I'd have to suspect a nute or excessive heat problem. Or, horror of horrors, you've got a hermie in the bunch that's throwing off pollen and causing things to become pollinated. I usually purposefully pollinate one or two buds down low on some of the plants to get some stock seed and I can tell that those hairs darken with in 24 to 48 hours of doing this.

I agree with you that the root system is way dam important. And I have yet to be really satisfied with my root balls when depotting after harvest. Of course I've just been using straight Miracle Grow potting mix but with what I've been learning from some folks here in the forums (mainly Uncle Ben) that's fixing to change on the next go around.

Another mistake I think I've been making (especially in regards to root developement) has been to start the plants out and veg them under 24/0 light conditions. Next time I'll be going with a 20/4 light cycle.

Another experiment I did with my current crop was about 3 weeks after switching to 12/12 to begin forcing (they all indicated with in 8 days) I switched the light cycle back up to 14/10. I'm just about 8 weeks into flower and at this point I can tell that this crop is probably going to take an extra couple of weeks to mature than the last one (that stayed under 12/12) did. While this means waiting a little longer to harvest I think it's going to be more than offset with a good increase in yield (guessing as much as 20% more). The babies certainly seem to be really packing on the mass. Just this past week I had one hell of a growth spurt of fresh white pistals.
 

AdReNaLiNeRuSh

Well-Known Member
I agree with you that the root system is way dam important. And I have yet to be really satisfied with my root balls when depotting after harvest. Of course I've just been using straight Miracle Grow potting mix but with what I've been learning from some folks here in the forums (mainly Uncle Ben) that's fixing to change on the next go around.
Be prepared for the jump in price if you switch. You're going to spend a fortune in nutes, but imo, it's well worth it. Miracle Grow is a generic fertilizer, formulated to cover a broad spectrum of plants. However, each plant specie has its own needs in terms of light, nutes, temp, etc... When you get the pricier noots, you'll be able to give your plant what it wants and I'm sure that you're going to see a huge jump in overall results. :)

Also, for your roots, I highly, hiiighly suggust getting benne bacteria for your soil. It's a bit pricey, but this is what I suggest for soil.

Another mistake I think I've been making (especially in regards to root developement) has been to start the plants out and veg them under 24/0 light conditions. Next time I'll be going with a 20/4 light cycle.
I hear ya on this one. I tried 24/0 once. It didn't stick long. We all need our sleep! heh.

Another experiment I did with my current crop was about 3 weeks after switching to 12/12 to begin forcing (they all indicated with in 8 days) I switched the light cycle back up to 14/10. I'm just about 8 weeks into flower and at this point I can tell that this crop is probably going to take an extra couple of weeks to mature than the last one (that stayed under 12/12) did. While this means waiting a little longer to harvest I think it's going to be more than offset with a good increase in yield (guessing as much as 20% more). The babies certainly seem to be really packing on the mass. Just this past week I had one hell of a growth spurt of fresh white pistals.
Wow, interesting. I'd be excited to hear how it turns out.

:peace:
-AR
 

scwascwa

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ey break looks great but i also think that she should be alil more fuller and thicker how much light u got on her????

and i'd say 6 -8 weeks left :)
 
my question is i see peoples lst with like 10 main tops (colas)... will mine be like that also or do i have to topp multiple times for em to be like that
scwascwa, I get a lot of tops by FIMing (I think its "Fuck I Missed")

Its kinda like topping but you just kinda mangle the new tiny top leaves and it sometimes shoots off 3 or 4 new tops and it gives the lower branches time to catch up so you end up with 9 or 10 or more sometimes. Its good for keeping your plants short and seems to be the best method for getting decent yield from CFLs. Thats what I do.

Im no pro just wanted to try and help.

Good Luck!
 

scwascwa

Well-Known Member
thanks bro..


hey break sounds like u have enough light idk though shes a pretty big bitch maybe u should throw another 68 W in there :)
 

breakneck

Calyx LED
Yeah - she has me wondering. Hopefully she is just working up a growth spurt. I haven't noticed much difference in a few days...prob 5-7 days or so it has looked the same.
 

Jack in the Bud

Active Member
Be prepared for the jump in price if you switch. You're going to spend a fortune in nutes, but imo, it's well worth it. Miracle Grow is a generic fertilizer, formulated to cover a broad spectrum of plants. However, each plant specie has its own needs in terms of light, nutes, temp, etc... When you get the pricier noots, you'll be able to give your plant what it wants and I'm sure that you're going to see a huge jump in overall results. :)

Also, for your roots, I highly, hiiighly suggust getting benne bacteria for your soil. It's a bit pricey, but this is what I suggest for soil.



I hear ya on this one. I tried 24/0 once. It didn't stick long. We all need our sleep! heh.



Wow, interesting. I'd be excited to hear how it turns out.

:peace:
-AR
AR,

I don't think I will be spending a ton of money on "specialized" nutrients. I think everything I'll be using can be found at Home Depot, Wall Mart or some of my other local "regular" greenhouses / nurseries.

I don't know if you're familar with "Uncle Ben" who posts here but I believe I'm going to become a disciple of his no frills, no hype method.

I recently followed his advice for a "soil mix" (in preperation for the next grow) and probably spent just over a $100 and ended up with around 80 gallons of customized potting mix. Plus some of the components I bought for it I've got plenty left over for the next couple of batchs.

All the nutrients that these plants need to grow can be found in cheap off the shelf regular gardening products that have been around for quite some time (blood meal, bone meal, dolamitic lime, fish fertilizer, manure, compost, etc. etc,).

I to have become interested in these mycorrhizael soil innoculants in regards to improving my root structure. In fact on my current grow I watered in 4 oz. of Roots Organics "Oregonism" blend. Won't know if it made a difference until after harvest and I de-pot and take a look at the roots.

Jack
 
pistils die throughout the entire grow... its not uncommon to see dead pistils, that, within a few days, have regrown back to bright white ones..

they can also brown like that if you rub up against them or spray them with a spray... i have a couple girls that i brush up against while moving around in my grow room and the tips of them are the same way...

it could be "wind burn" if you have a fan trained directly on that plant all the time.. but it's unlikely..

either way i wouldnt worry about it as long as the buds are still growing..
Today is starting Weed 7 for my Blue Dragon which is about a 9 week strain, until this morning, I saw no brown hairs on any of my plants, they were just beginning the fatting up stage.

I saw a little bit of powder mold on a couple plants, after I realized it was spreading throughout the growroom I took action. I sprayed with a Organic potassium bicarbonate anti fungal spray last night. I have 2 - 16" fans and a 6" inline fan for vent in a 256 cubic foot area. I let them dry for about an hour and a half. I closed everything up (tent), checked them this morning, and all of the top buds/hairs are brown.

It's obvious Sprays do this as well. What I am concerned with is if this will effect my yield. Nothing else burned, the leaves are nice a green (still). Hopefully those hairs are only meant to catch pollen, and don't give the plant any "signals" to finish early since they are dead now.
 
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