a mongo frog
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What is the pre flower flushing?
24 hour light vs. 18/6.
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Resinhound
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C3 plants don't need darkness..and plants don't sleep.This isn't conjecture it's FACT.I'm so tired of people claiming stupid stuff like "all living things need sleep"...honestly that's some of the stupidest shit ever.If you want to save power then by all means,don't use a 24hour light cycle.If you dont care and want more aggressive growth the go 24/0.Just don't do it because "my plants need sleep" that's just straight up ignorant and stupid.
Budzbuddha
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Anything OVER 13 hours a day will keep it in veg.
But i stick with 18/6 for my autos ....
Flowering i go with 12/12 to start then go to a lower 11/13 then 10/14 for mid to finish .
It is so easy to do ... I have 3 timers on a strip socket , i just plug into the appropriate timer im using and it does its business.
But i stick with 18/6 for my autos ....
Flowering i go with 12/12 to start then go to a lower 11/13 then 10/14 for mid to finish .
It is so easy to do ... I have 3 timers on a strip socket , i just plug into the appropriate timer im using and it does its business.
Budzbuddha
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Plants do need dark ... Mother nature runs it that way .... Daytime AND nightime.
Plants power up during the day and shut down at night. How can that be wrong ?
I dont keep my outside bushes on 24/0 ...
Plants power up during the day and shut down at night. How can that be wrong ?
I dont keep my outside bushes on 24/0 ...
Bangaman
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Basically it is leaching the grow medium before starting 12/12.
Bangaman
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Science proves they do not all need dark. what you see mother nature do does not always follow lay logic. Her complexities need to be understood through careful experimentation and fact gathering.
Budzbuddha
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There is no experimenting required .... Sun goes up ... Sun goes down.
Nature is funny that way.
Nature is funny that way.
a mongo frog
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I just think when we grow in doors we try to provide the greatest day every day. Basically trying to create the greatest mother nature, better then mother nature.
Resinhound
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Well you are wrong...C3 plants don't NEED darkness....they have merely adapted to cope with it.Again it's FACT that C3 plant don't NEED a dark period and that plants never,ever "sleep".Modern day botany...science... not your bullshit reasoning.
Try reading a book someday.
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bird mcbride
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24L/0d for moms and new snips, 18/6 for people that veg before budding, 20/4 for auto's, 12/12 for budding...
Skunk Baxter
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Then why you jumping all over him and ridiculing him?
Budzbuddha
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Opinions are like assholes ... They all stink .
This pretty much sizes up the psuedoscience. The overthinking of shit is amazing.
Yes, plants do need darkness to grow.
First, in the photosynthesis process itself, there is a reaction known as 'dark reaction' pathway or lately known as 'carbon reaction' pathway where the free energy of ATP and reducing power of NADPH, are used to fix and reduce CO2 to form carbohydrate. This is very important process to release Oxygen into the air. This happens in the dark or at night.
Secondly, for inducing the plant to initiate flowering process. This phenomena is known as photoperiod, ie based on the ratio of the daylength to night length over 24 hours. Plants reaction to photoperiod can be divided into 4 groups.
a. Day-neutral plants - the plants has no effect on photoperiod, They will flower when the plant reach physiological maturity.
b. Short day plants - plants will only flowering when daylength is shorter than nightlength. This group of plants will only flower in late summer or fall or very early spring, when day length is shorter than the night period. e.g. strawberries, potatoes, chrysanthemums etc.
c. Long day plants - Plant that flower in spring or early summer. eg lettuce, spinach, radish etc. Flower initiation will begin when the daylength is getting longer than the dark period.
d. Intermediate day plants - These group of plants will grow vegetatively when daylength is either too long or too short. They will only flower when the day length is about 12hrs of daylight and 12 hrs of darkness.
* grabs bong
This pretty much sizes up the psuedoscience. The overthinking of shit is amazing.
Yes, plants do need darkness to grow.
First, in the photosynthesis process itself, there is a reaction known as 'dark reaction' pathway or lately known as 'carbon reaction' pathway where the free energy of ATP and reducing power of NADPH, are used to fix and reduce CO2 to form carbohydrate. This is very important process to release Oxygen into the air. This happens in the dark or at night.
Secondly, for inducing the plant to initiate flowering process. This phenomena is known as photoperiod, ie based on the ratio of the daylength to night length over 24 hours. Plants reaction to photoperiod can be divided into 4 groups.
a. Day-neutral plants - the plants has no effect on photoperiod, They will flower when the plant reach physiological maturity.
b. Short day plants - plants will only flowering when daylength is shorter than nightlength. This group of plants will only flower in late summer or fall or very early spring, when day length is shorter than the night period. e.g. strawberries, potatoes, chrysanthemums etc.
c. Long day plants - Plant that flower in spring or early summer. eg lettuce, spinach, radish etc. Flower initiation will begin when the daylength is getting longer than the dark period.
d. Intermediate day plants - These group of plants will grow vegetatively when daylength is either too long or too short. They will only flower when the day length is about 12hrs of daylight and 12 hrs of darkness.
* grabs bong
since1991
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So he goes and smacks the wife....kicks his dog..
And walks about in his yard aimlessly...whaling incredible tears of sadness......dude i hear ya. Yer rite. But your post was so incredibly funny. Iam eating cereal rite now and almost shot a cheerio outy nose. Wow. So frikin funny.
Resinhound
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Again Fact not opinion c3 plants don't need a dark period to complete the Calvin cycle,in c3 plants the ATP cycle runs regardless of darkness...this is WHY they are classified as C3 plants bro.C4 plants DO need a dark period to complete the ATP cycle...this is WHY they are classified as C4 plants.These are not my opinions bro...this is PROVEN science and well known to modern day botany.
If cannabis REQUIRED a dark period to complete the ATP cycle then they wouldn't fucking grow under 24/0 at all.ATP is REQUIRED for life bro,REQUIRED for the creation of energy within the cell.There is proof all over these forums that cannabis CAN AND DOES complete the ATP cycle in the presence of 24 your light.The plant in my avatar is proof you are wrong,it was grown seed to harvest under 24 hour light.
Again try reading a book instead of just copy paste from Google,you might learn something.
If cannabis REQUIRED a dark period to complete the ATP cycle then they wouldn't fucking grow under 24/0 at all.ATP is REQUIRED for life bro,REQUIRED for the creation of energy within the cell.There is proof all over these forums that cannabis CAN AND DOES complete the ATP cycle in the presence of 24 your light.The plant in my avatar is proof you are wrong,it was grown seed to harvest under 24 hour light.
Again try reading a book instead of just copy paste from Google,you might learn something.
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Resinhound
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Since you like cut and paste I'll just drop this here for ya...
C4 plants: The plants exhibiting C4 pathway are called C4 plants. C4 plants live in hot moist or arid and nonsaline habitats. It occurs in grasses, sugar cane, maize, sorghum,Amarathus and Atriplex. C4 cycle is the alternate pathway of Calvin cycle (C3 cycle) taking place during dark phase of photosynthesis . In the C4 cycle the first stable compound is a 4 carbon compound, namelyoxaloacetic acid. Hence it is called C4 cycle. The C4 plants show a specific type of leaf anatomy (Krans anatomy). C4 plants are more efficient in photosynthesis than the C3 plants.
Again bro C3 plants don't require darkness to complete the ATP cycle.95% of plants on earth are classified as c3 plants,they don't NEED a dark cycle for cell respiration...they merely cope with it because they have to.
C4 plants: The plants exhibiting C4 pathway are called C4 plants. C4 plants live in hot moist or arid and nonsaline habitats. It occurs in grasses, sugar cane, maize, sorghum,Amarathus and Atriplex. C4 cycle is the alternate pathway of Calvin cycle (C3 cycle) taking place during dark phase of photosynthesis . In the C4 cycle the first stable compound is a 4 carbon compound, namelyoxaloacetic acid. Hence it is called C4 cycle. The C4 plants show a specific type of leaf anatomy (Krans anatomy). C4 plants are more efficient in photosynthesis than the C3 plants.
Again bro C3 plants don't require darkness to complete the ATP cycle.95% of plants on earth are classified as c3 plants,they don't NEED a dark cycle for cell respiration...they merely cope with it because they have to.
Budzbuddha
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Resinhound
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Budzbuddha
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Got to put the plants to bed , if i dont they get out of their pots and run around the fucking room .
churchhaze
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This is obviously false or people who use 24/0 would have dead plants.