24 days of veg how do they look?

a.d.i.d.a.s

a.d.i.d.a.s

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well they are 24 days old they have had a light feeding of nutes three times 1/8 teaspoon of bat guano 10-3-1 fish emulsion 5-1-1 ,and some organic fertilizer that has whole fish,seabird guano palm ash,kapok seed meal,and mollasses 5-5-5 i planon 12/12/ tomorrow got a couple questions? can a give just distilled water in between feedings and when should i boost the nutes? oh what should i ad to nutes when for flowering thanks in advance. they are are turning light yellow on the bottom leaves need help fast 2010-10-20 09.38.44.jpg2010-10-20 09.25.06.jpg2010-10-20 09.38.28.jpg 2010-10-20 09.39.02.jpg2010-10-20 09.24.02.jpg2010-10-20 09.38.39.jpg
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10-3-1, plus 5-1-1, plus 5-5-5, and called a 'light-feeding of nutes"? Hmm.....I'm guessing that you aren't watering/feeding thoroughly, when it comes time to do it. How well do you soak your soil, when you feed/water? They shouldn't be deficient, unless the PH is way off, or if you're skimping on the liquid, when it comes time to give them some. Any of that sound possible? :)
 
i only give a 1/8 teaspoon of each in gallon of distilled water every 2 days i use the gallon on all six maybe more water or more nutes
 
PH?



Also, those lights are way too far away. Looks like it's going to be tricky to do, but I'd find some way to bring 'em down to 2" or so. From the looks of it, ventilation/cooling won't be a problem.lol :)
 
Well I think your not mixing enough fert in your water, your watering too much and your pH is probably way off. Yea the lights too. Fans way too many and right on them... back them off a little, all you want is air movement not a fucking wind storm
 
i just turned the fans down and move the lights down i didnt want to burn them i dont know th ph got to get a meter when i get paid so what should i do next i want to change to 12/12 tomorrow thanks
 
Zcomfort said:
Well I think your not mixing enough fert in your water, your watering too much and your pH is probably way off. Yea the lights too. Fans way too many and right on them... back them off a little, all you want is air movement not a fucking wind storm
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Yeah, they are pretty droopy and yellow, like an overwatering issue, now that I think about it. The only thing I disagree with, is the amount of ferts in the mix. He shouldn't need any, actually, let alone, worry about not having enough. It's likely overwatering and PH. Being that he failed to mention his PH, I'm thinking that he hasn't checked it, or hasn't been able to purchase a meter yet? Sorry man, but that's one area where you can't just hope for the best. Alot of times, it'll bite ya in the ass. :wink:
 
jawbrodt thanks i really need the help thanks zcomfort i did what you said turned the fans man its been tough but i love it
 
Well pH always matters, but it is real forgiving in soil. The reason I think he is not giving enough is cause he is using distilled water which has nothing in it, and speaking of distilled water. That is why his pH is way off. The pH of distilled water is 5.5 and when your adding all those organic ferts your lowering the pH to probably around mid 3 to mid 4, you need between 6.3 and 6.8/7. I wouldn't switch over to 12/12 until you fix the problem. Use your sink water.... you do have ec or ppm meter don't you?
 
a.d.i.d.a.s said:
i just turned the fans down and move the lights down i didnt want to burn them i dont know th ph got to get a meter when i get paid so what should i do next i want to change to 12/12 tomorrow thanks
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Okay, now we're getting somewhere. Sorry to say this, but you're going to want to wait on flipping them to 12/12, or yield is going to suffer, likely, quite badly. As soon as they start stretching(in 7 days or so), they are going to yellow so fast, it'll make your head spin.lol Seriously, they won't have any leaves by week 3-4, and the yield will be terrible. If I were you, I'd flush them with some of that distilled water, and if possible, add a tiny amount of 'high n' fert, one that doesn't drop PH much, if at all. Molasses doesn't, so that would be a good one. Then you're going to have to wait awhile, for the soil to dry out, and the plant to recover. Look into foliar feeding, while you're waiting, as it'll speed recovery. Soon, you'll see nice green new growth, and then, they'll be ready for 12/12. You can start watering again, when the soil is nearly dry, not to the point of being completely dry(drooping), but almost. Then, water/feed, and repeat that procedure, til they're finished.
 
Well you could put one fan on the plant just back off a little and then hang one above the lights. You just want a constant air flow(slight breeze) in the room, box, etc.
 
Go ahead and go 12/12 if you want. They look a little small.
But since you got a little time get some leafage, I'd try and dial in the problems before I made a major change to the program. Once your plants are dialed in, they don't need your help to grow, and they'll grow even faster.

I "hoped for the best on ph" before. Reeeaaaallly bad idea:clap:
 
Um....nevermind my comment on using distilled water for flushing, until you have an idea what the PH is. I've never used the stuff before, but I've could've sworn it was close to 7.0. IDK, but at any rate, you don't wanna throw it off any more than it is, so you better wait til you know for sure. Anybody know the PH of some brands of bottled spring water?
 
a.d.i.d.a.s said:
i guess ill just borrow the cash how mch does the meter cost and where to get it im getting it asap
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Ebay is probably the cheapest place, they have 'em for a little less than $40. Get one that has calibration solution with it, of you'll need to buy that extra. Also, you can go to Walmart or somewhere with aquarium stuff, and buy a PH test kit, the kind that uses the liquid drops. Those work pretty good for testing clear liquids, so at least you'll know your water is okay, til you get your meter, if it's going to be awhile.
 
Most of the bottle water from my walmart is between 5.5 and 6.3, but it all comes from a local distributor. Well my pH meter is a Milwaukee pH51 now its good with sink water and ro water but It can not read distilled water... it should but for some reason it doesn't. Now I know what your thinking were did I get the info on distilled water bing 5.5. The guy at Milwaukee told me as well as some other info read on the net, plus i did a liquid test. Now I get a better reading if I let air get into the bottle which put ions back in. Anyways my meter cost about $50-$60. I really want the bluelabe tri meter which runs about $300, but its the best on the market.
 
I keep my ferts PH'ed to 6.6-6.8, leave my tapwater at 6.9-7.0, and never have any PH issues. 6.5 is what most guys choose, and it works well, I just like to keep mine a tad higher, in hopes that it'll keep my soil PH within an acceptable level, a little longer. Keep it close to the mid 6's, and you'll be fine.
 
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