2022 elections. The steady march for sanity continues.

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Cook Report projects GOP as clear favorite to win House majority
The new batch of ratings from the nonpartisan election handicapper shows Democrats defending eight so-called toss-up districts across seven states. By comparison, Republicans are defending six toss-up seats in four states at this point.

At the same time, three Democratic-held districts — Arizona’s 6th, New Jersey’s 7th and Texas’s 15th — have landed in The Cook Political Report’s “lean Republican” column. Two more — Arizona’s 2nd District and Michigan’s 10th District — are in the “likely Republican” column.


Only one Republican-held district, Illinois’s 13th, currently leans toward Democrats, according to the latest ratings.

The Cook Political Report is issuing the ratings on a rolling basis given ongoing redistricting efforts across the country that will further reshape the nation’s political lines in the coming months.

Still, the latest race ratings from the election handicapper paint a difficult picture for Democrats, who are facing an uphill battle to hold on to their narrow House majority next year.

Republicans need to net just five seats in 2022 to recapture control of the lower chamber, a goal that appears well within reach, especially given the fact that the party of a new president tends to lose ground in Congress in midterm election years.

The ratings released by The Cook Political Report on Thursday account for only a portion of the races that could decide the House majority next year.

The National Republican Congressional Committee says it is targeting 70 Democratic-held districts in 2022 after expanding its list last month. Democrats, meanwhile, are going after a more limited slate of 22 GOP-held districts.
 

smokinrav

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Texas’ audit of the 2020 election results thus far hasn’t unveiled anything out of the ordinary, despite former President Donald Trump pushing for an examination of what he dubbed a “scam” election in the state he won comfortably.
The Texas secretary of state’s office on New Year’s Eve released the first phase of its review of election data in four counties. Its findings were unremarkable, with few discrepancies between electronic and manual ballot counts.
The four counties audited were able to explain those differences, according to the review. One county cited voters who cast ballots from their cars using machines that didn’t leave a paper record. Another said its vote discrepancy of 10 was due to an election worker typing in data incorrectly. A third county blamed its five-vote difference on a manual counting error. The fourth county audited had zero discrepancies. The four counties account for 35 percent of the votes cast statewide
 

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Mark Finchem was at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.

He says he didn't go inside, but he snapped some photos of people who did.

"What happens when the People feel they have been ignored, and Congress refuses to acknowledge rampant fraud. #stopthesteal," he tweeted.

The Arizona state representative was there to share what he called "evidence" of an "irredeemably compromised" 2020 election with Republican lawmakers from his home state. To be clear, Republican election officials in the state deemed the results "free, fair, and accurate" and even a discredited GOP-led "audit" run in the state's largest county agreed Biden won.

More recently, Finchem also appeared at a QAnon conference, and in speaking with NPR declined to describe what happened at the Capitol as a riot or an insurrection, instead making allusions to some sort of conspiracy involving law enforcement.

Now, he is running to oversee voting in Arizona in 2022.

And he's not alone.

An NPR analysis of 2022 secretary of state races across the country found at least 15 Republican candidates running who question the legitimacy of President Biden's 2020 win, even though no evidence of widespread fraud has been uncovered about the race over the last 14 months. In fact, claims of any sort of fraud that swung the election have been explicitly refuted in state after state, including those run by Republicans.

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The duties of a state secretary of state vary, but in most cases, they are the state's top voting official and have a role in carrying out election laws. Wisconsin is the only state included in NPR's analysis where the state secretary of state does not oversee its elections, though at least one Republican lawmaker there has floated the idea of changing that.

Current and former election officials, as well as election experts worry what could become of democracy should some or many of the candidates across the country win.

"The reasons why Trump's attempt to overturn the 2020 election failed is because there were state officials who refused to substantiate his claims of fraud," said Franita Tolson, an election law expert at the University of Southern California. "These folks really are gatekeepers."

In many cases, the races are setting up a deciding moment for Republican voters — just how far down the election denial rabbit hole are they willing to follow former President Donald Trump?

In Georgia for instance, the Republican primary will pit incumbent Brad Raffensperger against two candidates, Rep. Jody Hice and former Alpharetta Mayor David Belle Isle, both of whom allege that Trump was the rightful winner of the state.

Raffensperger, however, became one of the leading Republican voices in 2020 cutting against Trump's misinformation about the election, culminating in a phone call where he told the then-president directly that he was wrong.

"I think [Trump] knows in his heart that he lost this election," Raffensperger told NPR recently.

The 2022 secretary of state race in Kansas is shaping up similarly.

Incumbent Scott Schwab corrected Trump's false claims about mail voting security in 2020, and at least one Republican challenger, Mike Brown, is seizing on those comments to call for audits and defend Trump.

Trump has endorsed three secretary of state candidates so far — Finchem in Arizona, Hice in Georgia and Kristina Karamo, a community college professor in Michigan who has pushed conspiracy theories about the election and the attack on the Capitol.

Trey Grayson, a Republican former secretary of state from Kentucky, said the trend is worrisome but that it also makes sense since polling shows a majority of Republican voters feel similarly. A recent NPR/Ipsos poll, for example, found that two-thirds of Republicans nationally feel like fraud helped Biden win.

"There's a lot of crazy going around," Grayson said. "You have people running for these offices where the most important duty is counting the votes and accepting the results even if you don't like the outcome, and these folks don't appear to be well-positioned to do that."
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Cook Report projects GOP as clear favorite to win House majority
The new batch of ratings from the nonpartisan election handicapper shows Democrats defending eight so-called toss-up districts across seven states. By comparison, Republicans are defending six toss-up seats in four states at this point.

At the same time, three Democratic-held districts — Arizona’s 6th, New Jersey’s 7th and Texas’s 15th — have landed in The Cook Political Report’s “lean Republican” column. Two more — Arizona’s 2nd District and Michigan’s 10th District — are in the “likely Republican” column.


Only one Republican-held district, Illinois’s 13th, currently leans toward Democrats, according to the latest ratings.

The Cook Political Report is issuing the ratings on a rolling basis given ongoing redistricting efforts across the country that will further reshape the nation’s political lines in the coming months.

Still, the latest race ratings from the election handicapper paint a difficult picture for Democrats, who are facing an uphill battle to hold on to their narrow House majority next year.

Republicans need to net just five seats in 2022 to recapture control of the lower chamber, a goal that appears well within reach, especially given the fact that the party of a new president tends to lose ground in Congress in midterm election years.

The ratings released by The Cook Political Report on Thursday account for only a portion of the races that could decide the House majority next year.

The National Republican Congressional Committee says it is targeting 70 Democratic-held districts in 2022 after expanding its list last month. Democrats, meanwhile, are going after a more limited slate of 22 GOP-held districts.
it doesn't matter...what matters is getting trump and as many of his cronies into a cell before the elections as possible...the republicans can have a majority, as long as the worst of them are locked up. the remaining magats will quickly be silenced by the real republicans as they crawl out from under the rocks they were hiding under, like the cowards they are. they won't want the magats drawing attention to trump, they won't want them making ridiculous stupid racist statements in public, they may even refuse to appear on shithole "news" sources like fox and oan....in short, if they have any sense at all, once the real trouble makers are indicted or already in cells, they won't want to be associated with them...
i expect the entire party to shift gears once trump and his "party" start paying the piper
 

CatHedral

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it doesn't matter...what matters is getting trump and as many of his cronies into a cell before the elections as possible...the republicans can have a majority, as long as the worst of them are locked up. the remaining magats will quickly be silenced by the real republicans as they crawl out from under the rocks they were hiding under, like the cowards they are. they won't want the magats drawing attention to trump, they won't want them making ridiculous stupid racist statements in public, they may even refuse to appear on shithole "news" sources like fox and oan....in short, if they have any sense at all, once the real trouble makers are indicted or already in cells, they won't want to be associated with them...
i expect the entire party to shift gears once trump and his "party" start paying the piper
I do not share your optimism. Which pains me, because you don’t show it often.
But I think the GOP won’t quickly recover from that man ripping the cloak off. Too many authoritarians.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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I do not share your optimism. Which pains me, because you don’t show it often.
But I think the GOP won’t quickly recover from that man ripping the cloak off. Too many authoritarians.
i don't expect it to recover quickly, but i do expect it to go into full blown survival mode. the indictments against trump and who knows how many of his aids in treason will be a severe blow to the republican party, and they will want to stand separately from those who supported trump rabidly...rats that desert a sinking ship still have to know how to swim to shore, i expect mcconnel and company to stand as the core of a "new" republican party that will have very little patience for the shit of idiots like gosar, greene and boebert.
 

CatHedral

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i don't expect it to recover quickly, but i do expect it to go into full blown survival mode. the indictments against trump and who knows how many of his aids in treason will be a severe blow to the republican party, and they will want to stand separately from those who supported trump rabidly...rats that desert a sinking ship still have to know how to swim to shore, i expect mcconnel and company to stand as the core of a "new" republican party that will have very little patience for the shit of idiots like gosar, greene and boebert.
I am unwilling to forgive Moscow Mitch. He was instrumental in freezing Congress against That Man’s destructive impulses.
any new replacement party will have to keep him out as he is a former traitriot shot-caller.
 

HGCC

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Fuck Mitchell.

It will really depend on how/if/what/etc comes out of the indictments. I'm not hopeful, but if it's layed out there plain as day it gets very hard for your average fox News viewing republican to stay on board. Any cover needs to be shredded, it needs to be clear what they are supporting.

The people that moved on from fox to the more extremist "news" are a lost cause and divorced from reality. They can't process basic facts anymore.
 

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Cook Report projects GOP as clear favorite to win House majority
The new batch of ratings from the nonpartisan election handicapper shows Democrats defending eight so-called toss-up districts across seven states. By comparison, Republicans are defending six toss-up seats in four states at this point.

At the same time, three Democratic-held districts — Arizona’s 6th, New Jersey’s 7th and Texas’s 15th — have landed in The Cook Political Report’s “lean Republican” column. Two more — Arizona’s 2nd District and Michigan’s 10th District — are in the “likely Republican” column.


Only one Republican-held district, Illinois’s 13th, currently leans toward Democrats, according to the latest ratings.

The Cook Political Report is issuing the ratings on a rolling basis given ongoing redistricting efforts across the country that will further reshape the nation’s political lines in the coming months.

Still, the latest race ratings from the election handicapper paint a difficult picture for Democrats, who are facing an uphill battle to hold on to their narrow House majority next year.

Republicans need to net just five seats in 2022 to recapture control of the lower chamber, a goal that appears well within reach, especially given the fact that the party of a new president tends to lose ground in Congress in midterm election years.

The ratings released by The Cook Political Report on Thursday account for only a portion of the races that could decide the House majority next year.

The National Republican Congressional Committee says it is targeting 70 Democratic-held districts in 2022 after expanding its list last month. Democrats, meanwhile, are going after a more limited slate of 22 GOP-held districts.
There are 11 months until the election and they promise to be momentous, with hearings, trials and guilty pleas. Then there's Donald, the ultimate wild card and they will be playing psyops on him to manipulate his behavior. Donald is going to be under a lot more stress soon, he can play internal mental games until unavoidable reality confronts him, this has been his pattern all his life. Donald could be pissed over the emerging power struggle in the GOP as he starts to go down legally. The only lever Donald will have is his control over the republican party and he will break it trying to pry his ass out of trouble. If he's running around loose during the 2022 election he will cause chaos and division among them and might pull off another Georgia, if they refuse to refight the 2022 election and carry the big lie while it is being torn apart in hearings and courtrooms.

The above might have some effect, but the polls have already taken the insurrection into account and the republicans will pay little price. The pandemic should have passed by spring and I'm pretty sure they are gonna want to nip an outbreak during election season in the bud with new improved boosters and getting ahead of the virus a bit.

The economy is doing well and employment is at an all time low, this might be the biggest factor. There could also be a war over Ukraine that would work to Joe's advantage, so Vlad better be cautious, cause NATO will back Joe to help him win. Though I'd say the biggest factor in the 2022 election is Trump and the republicans know it, if he is free, he will sow chaos and division and make republicans campaign on the big lie and a large majority of Americans don't believe it.

That's what I find so strange, a large majority know it was a big lie, as shown in the polls, but nonetheless they will still vote for republicans. Tribalism, many of these people should know better, not all Trumpers are stupid, just bigoted and under the influence of instinctive forces. Sometimes it helps to honestly look with in to figure out why they are suckers and dupes, it could save a lot of trouble and sometimes money.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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I am unwilling to forgive Moscow Mitch. He was instrumental in freezing Congress against That Man’s destructive impulses.
any new replacement party will have to keep him out as he is a former traitriot shot-caller.
it doesn't matter who you forgive (not trying to be a dick, just stating bald realities) they'll pick who they pick, and i'm pretty fucking sure mitch ain't about to give up what control he still has over the party easily, and he's had the foresight to distance himself from trump. i'll give you a dollar if there is one record anywhere of mitch participating in trumps little attempted coup...not saying he didn't know about every detail, just saying he's too smart to get caught that easily
 

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Biden calls for changing Senate rules to allow voting bills to pass
Biden has in the past expressed an openness to tweaking Senate rules, such as reinstating the talking filibuster. But in Tuesday’s remarks, he made clear he supports changing the rules “whichever way they need to be changed to prevent a minority of senators from blocking action on voting rights," setting the stage for a high-stakes fight in the Senate.

“Sadly, the U.S. Senate, designed to be the world’s greatest deliberative body, has been rendered a shell of its former self. It gives me no satisfaction in saying that as an institutionalist, as a man who was honored to serve in the Senate,” Biden said. “But as an institutionalist, I believe the threat to our democracy is so grave that we must find a way to pass these voting rights bills."

“Debate them, vote, let the majority prevail,” Biden continued. “And if that bare minimum is blocked, we have no option but to change the Senate rules, including getting rid of the filibuster for this.”

Biden called on the Senate to advance two pieces of federal voting rights legislation: the Freedom to Vote Act and the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act. He described both measures as remedies to efforts by Republican-led state legislatures to pass bills making it more difficult for certain groups to vote.

“I’ve been having these quiet conversations with members of Congress for the last two months. I’m tired of being quiet,” Biden said, pounding the lectern for emphasis.

Biden argued the two bills would directly address some state-level bills that were passed last year to make mail-in voting tougher and give more autonomy to elected officials over counting ballots, or what he deemed "Jim Crow 2.0."

But a handful of moderate Democrats, most notably Sens. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.), have been vocal opponents to gutting the filibuster, warning it could backfire if Republicans retake the majority.

“We need some good rules changes to make the place work better. But getting rid of the filibuster doesn’t make it work better,” Manchin told reporters hours before Biden’s speech.
 

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House passes voting rights package, setting up Senate filibuster showdown
The House passed voting rights legislation on Thursday in a way that is intended to set up a battle in the Senate over that issue as well as the filibuster.

The measure passed in a 220-203 party-line vote.

Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) has vowed to put the measure to a vote in the coming days before the Martin Luther King, Jr. holiday in a bid to highlight state laws approved by GOP-dominated state governments that Democrats say will make it more difficult for their supporters — including minority voters — to vote.

“Nothing less is at stake than our democracy,” said Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.).

The manner in which the legislation was approved allows Schumer to bring it straight to the floor. But Democrats would need 60 votes — including 10 GOP votes — to get it to President Biden's desk given the filibuster.

Biden will meet with Senate Democrats later Thursday afternoon, two days after he traveled to Georgia to publicly urge his party to pass voting rights legislation.

Democrats are using a bicameral bill related to allowing the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) to lease its properties to other entities as the legislative vehicle for the voting rights package.

That process will give Senate Democrats a procedural shortcut so that they can bypass the 60 votes typically needed to formally start debate on legislation. But the bill will still have to clear a 60-vote hurdle to actually pass.

“Though I did not expect this outcome when I first introduced the NASA Enhanced Use Leasing Extension Act, if my legislation will help overcome the filibuster, the Senate can finally have the long-overdue debate on voting rights this country deserves,” said Rep. Don Beyer (D-Va.), the sponsor of the original NASA bill.
 

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Wisconsin Judge Rules Against Absentee Ballot Drop Boxes
A Wisconsin judge on Thursday sided with conservatives, ruling that absentee ballot drop boxes cannot be located anywhere other than at offices of local clerks and that no one other than the voter may return such a ballot.

The ruling, if it stands, means that no ballot drop boxes can be used in the upcoming Feb. 15 spring primary election featuring a bevy of local races. The spring general election is April 5.

The lawsuit is part of a multipronged attack on absentee ballot boxes by Republicans in Wisconsin. Republicans are also attempting to change state law to limit ballot boxes and force the bipartisan state elections commission to enact rules restricting their location.

The Republican push against absentee ballot boxes comes after President Joe Biden narrowly won Wisconsin over Donald Trump by just under 21,000 votes. A Republican-ordered investigation into the election is ongoing, even after numerous lawsuits, recounts and other probes have upheld Biden’s victory and determined there was no widespread fraud.

Thursday’s ruling will certainly be appealed. The conservative-controlled Wisconsin Supreme Court is ultimately expected to rule on the legality of the widespread use of drop boxes in the battleground state.

One of the defense attorneys told the judge following his oral ruling that the changes he ordered were contrary to a 2006 U.S. Supreme Court decision that said the rules of elections should not be changed close to when ballots are cast because it creates confusion.

Waukesha County Judge Michael Bohren responded that he was confident the changes could be executed in time.

Bohren ruled that absentee ballots could only be returned by mail or dropped off at the local election clerk's office by the person who cast the vote. Events such as “Democracy in the Park,” in which election officials accepted absentee ballots at more than 200 city parks in 2020, would be prohibited.

Mail in early, mail in often.
 

schuylaar

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Wisconsin Judge Rules Against Absentee Ballot Drop Boxes
A Wisconsin judge on Thursday sided with conservatives, ruling that absentee ballot drop boxes cannot be located anywhere other than at offices of local clerks and that no one other than the voter may return such a ballot.

The ruling, if it stands, means that no ballot drop boxes can be used in the upcoming Feb. 15 spring primary election featuring a bevy of local races. The spring general election is April 5.

The lawsuit is part of a multipronged attack on absentee ballot boxes by Republicans in Wisconsin. Republicans are also attempting to change state law to limit ballot boxes and force the bipartisan state elections commission to enact rules restricting their location.

The Republican push against absentee ballot boxes comes after President Joe Biden narrowly won Wisconsin over Donald Trump by just under 21,000 votes. A Republican-ordered investigation into the election is ongoing, even after numerous lawsuits, recounts and other probes have upheld Biden’s victory and determined there was no widespread fraud.

Thursday’s ruling will certainly be appealed. The conservative-controlled Wisconsin Supreme Court is ultimately expected to rule on the legality of the widespread use of drop boxes in the battleground state.

One of the defense attorneys told the judge following his oral ruling that the changes he ordered were contrary to a 2006 U.S. Supreme Court decision that said the rules of elections should not be changed close to when ballots are cast because it creates confusion.

Waukesha County Judge Michael Bohren responded that he was confident the changes could be executed in time.

Bohren ruled that absentee ballots could only be returned by mail or dropped off at the local election clerk's office by the person who cast the vote. Events such as “Democracy in the Park,” in which election officials accepted absentee ballots at more than 200 city parks in 2020, would be prohibited.

Mail in early, mail in often.
ballots are being tracked that if you don't return yours timely they call/text.


other states are following this lead because it works.
 

schuylaar

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I really like how voting is done here in CO. Works well and is super convenient, also, if you don't know what something is you can look it up and take your time to decide.
yup, they send you the book well in advance; when you get to the actual ballot, the way Bills are worded you need to read about that Bill and what it actually means- i's so nice to have my vote count in this state. Broward County Florida was way too questionable and i often wonder whose vote didn't they count when bags of voter ballots sat in Opa-Locka mail processing center for last Governor.
 

schuylaar

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So Republicans elsewhere would welcome a similar system if the feds say do it? In the interest of election security.
this place is half Hillbilly so if they can do it here, they can do it anywhere..our election system has been called into question by one person and one person only because he's a sore loser. perhaps Senator McConnell's number is off too? how about Senator Paul? or Senator Cruz; Senator Graham?

it was just Trumps numbers that didn't add up:lol:
 

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Vermont's Republican governor backs all-mail elections
Vermont Gov. Phil Scott (R) wants his state to become the latest to conduct all elections entirely by mail, a move he says would expand voter access and turnout at a time when many Republican-led states are debating restrictions on absentee ballots.

Scott signed legislation last year to automatically mail registered voters an absentee ballot in general elections. On Friday, he signed a measure extending access to town meetings, an annual tradition in some New England states, to account for the coronavirus pandemic.

In a letter to legislators, Scott urged them to expand automatic mail-in voting beyond general elections, to include local and primary elections.

“General elections already have the highest voter turnout. What we need is increased voter participation for elections like those on Town Meeting Day or school budget votes, which experience a fraction of the turnout of general elections,” Scott wrote.

Vermont already has among the highest voter turnout rates in the nation. Nearly three-quarters of the voting-eligible population returned ballots in 2020, higher than all but seven other states, according to data from the U.S. Elections Project. Three of those states with higher turnout — Colorado, Oregon and Washington — already conduct their elections entirely by mail.

Scott’s call for expanded voting by mail stands in stark contrast to Republicans in other states, who have moved to scale back absentee voting. At least 57 bills that have been introduced in legislatures across the country this year would restrict voting by mail in some form, according to research from the Brennan Center for Justice, which favors expanded voting rights.

In Virginia, where Republicans reclaimed control of the General Assembly in November, legislators have introduced 20 measures aimed at restricting or curbing voting by mail.

Scott may find a more willing ally in his own legislature: Democrats hold overwhelming majorities in both the state House and the state Senate.

In an email, Scott’s spokesman said the move to expand access only made logical sense.

“If the goal is to expand voter accessibility and participation, it does not make sense to only focus on elections (generals) that have by far the highest voter turnout,” said Jason Maulucci, Scott’s press secretary.
 
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