2016 The Movie

beenthere

New Member
This film is getting a ton of great reviews so I'm taking my wife to see it tomorrow night. It's about time conservatives fight fire with fire.

[video=youtube;vtv6XUT-hno]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtv6XUT-hno[/video]
 

bedspirit

Active Member
This film is getting a ton of great reviews so I'm taking my wife to see it tomorrow night. It's about time conservatives fight fire with fire.

[video=youtube;vtv6XUT-hno]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtv6XUT-hno[/video]
What's up with the flag at the end of that trailer? It looks like a variation of Adbusters' corporate america flag

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Is the implication that Obama is a corporate sell out? If that's the case I'd agree, but it sounded to me like they were making the opposite argument. The tired old accusation that Obama is anti business.
 

beenthere

New Member
What's up with the flag at the end of that trailer? It looks like a variation of Adbusters' corporate america flag

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Is the implication that Obama is a corporate sell out? If that's the case I'd agree, but it sounded to me like they were making the opposite argument. The tired old accusation that Obama is anti business.
I'm taking it as Obama is wanting to rid America of liberty and the free market, after all it was his fathers dream to downsize the US.

I don't think the fact that Obama is anti business is a tired and old, I think you're just tired of hearing it.
 

bedspirit

Active Member
I'm taking it as Obama is wanting to rid America of liberty and the free market, after all it was his fathers dream to downsize the US.

I don't think the fact that Obama is anti business is a tired and old, I think you're just tired of hearing it.
Well, I'm quite sure that GE, Monsanto, Goldman Sachs, Freeport McMoRan, and pretty much all of the pharmaceutical companies would disagree with you. This is the guy who is working on the Trans Pacific Partnership. This is a free trade agreement that will exempt foreign companies from complying with State and Local laws (just like Nafta did, only worse). There's also a bunch of other crap in this agreement that will fuck with the internet, encourage companies to hire workers outside the U.S.,etc. It pretty much fucks us, but it's awesome as shit for his corporate buddies.

Neither of us are fans of Obama but I think you should hate him for giving up your sovereignty for the good of international corporations, not for being some kind of communist looking to nationalize private enterprise.
 

budlover13

King Tut
If they end up offering Romney or the Repulican Party, as a whole, as the solution to their perceived issue, we all know it's just more of the same old shit.

Imo, Romey=Obama=Establishment=Big Gov't=War=Poverty=(and my BIGGEST bitch) Nanny State.


Always HAVE resented being told what to do with MY life.

:bigjoint::fire:;-)
 

Mr Neutron

Well-Known Member
Is it stating the obvious to say that the only sure thing about 2016 is that Hillary will be the D candidate?
 

beenthere

New Member
Well, I'm quite sure that GE, Monsanto, Goldman Sachs, Freeport McMoRan, and pretty much all of the pharmaceutical companies would disagree with you. This is the guy who is working on the Trans Pacific Partnership. This is a free trade agreement that will exempt foreign companies from complying with State and Local laws (just like Nafta did, only worse). There's also a bunch of other crap in this agreement that will fuck with the internet, encourage companies to hire workers outside the U.S.,etc. It pretty much fucks us, but it's awesome as shit for his corporate buddies.

Neither of us are fans of Obama but I think you should hate him for giving up your sovereignty for the good of international corporations, not for being some kind of communist looking to nationalize private enterprise.
The Trans Pacific Partnership has absolutely no bearing on how Obama wants to downsize America.
As far as the pacific free trade agreement goes, I've been reading up on this for a while, the problem is, we're only getting information they want us to have and I'm trying to find out what our global economic alternative is without isolating ourselves as the other option.

But the fact is, neither you nor I have much of a choice, that is why I will vote for my own best interest, no matter how small it may be.
 

bedspirit

Active Member
The Trans Pacific Partnership has absolutely no bearing on how Obama wants to downsize America.
As far as the pacific free trade agreement goes, I've been reading up on this for a while, the problem is, we're only getting information they want us to have and I'm trying to find out what our global economic alternative is without isolating ourselves as the other option.

But the fact is, neither you nor I have much of a choice, that is why I will vote for my own best interest, no matter how small it may be.
Well, I guess you're going to have to watch the movie and let us all know because i don't think you really know yourself.

The TPP is just another example of how business friendly Obama is. By the way, the reason we know as much as we do is because documents got leaked to Public Citizen.

Is there such a thing as a private business loving communist?
 

Grandpapy

Well-Known Member
i've given up planning that far ahead.

i'll see what we see come 2013.
Not that I blame you for doing so, But the fact is, Millions have already been spent by Corps. to shape the outcome, and plan the direction of their interests.
The people should be so wise.
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
If they end up offering Romney or the Repulican Party, as a whole, as the solution to their perceived issue, we all know it's just more of the same old shit.

Imo, Romey=Obama=Establishment=Big Gov't=War=Poverty=(and my BIGGEST bitch) Nanny State.


Always HAVE resented being told what to do with MY life.

:bigjoint::fire:;-)

Yeah, except that the need not do that. It will be enough to state that Obama is cruel, wants only what is worst for America, hates our precious free enterprise system, is a socialist and a communist and a muslim, his father as well hates America and his wife does, and he is indocrtinating his children to hate this country as well.

now if you believe any of this, who you gonna vote for?
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
I have a problem - I certainly want to see it but I will not give my money to something that seems at first blush to be another swiftboat attack.
 

budlover13

King Tut
Yeah, except that the need not do that. It will be enough to state that Obama is cruel, wants only what is worst for America, hates our precious free enterprise system, is a socialist and a communist and a muslim, his father as well hates America and his wife does, and he is indocrtinating his children to hate this country as well.

now if you believe any of this, who you gonna vote for?
i don't want to see either of them elected. It matters not ONE bit to me if EITHER ONE is elected.

Obama OR Romney is a lose/lose situation. So anything that will keep EITHER of them from getting elected is fine by me.
 

budlover13

King Tut
I have a problem - I certainly want to see it but I will not give my money to something that seems at first blush to be another swiftboat attack.
Look at the money spent as an investment in research so you can straighten out those that have seen it and believe it.

That's what I'D do if i supported the dude being attacked.

;)
 

newatit2010

Well-Known Member
I went to the movie and what I seen was his fathers dream was in keyan and that is where the illegal mofo needs to be.
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
i don't want to see either of them elected. It matters not ONE bit to me if EITHER ONE is elected.

Obama OR Romney is a lose/lose situation. So anything that will keep EITHER of them from getting elected is fine by me.

I have been saying that SCOTIS matters, and the makeup of that court matters a great deal to us and each candidate will select radicaly different folk. If you don't think it matters, then vote for Obama.
 
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