1k watt Vert Grow.

Sebastien Blades said:

Well if it is your second grow I think you might be ok running coco. Just remember it has NO nutrient value. Also water when the top of the coco turns a light brown. I would grab a 2.2lb bag of maxi bloom from your local hydro store (about 20 bucks) Drip Clean from House and garden and some canna coco. The canna coco is 20 bucks a bag, but its the best coco hands down. You will need two bags for six, three gallon containers. In coco bigger pots are not necessary, you want to be watering the coco everyday if possible and 5 gallon pots stay saturated too long for plants under 4 ft IME. If you have a fan under the bulb you could get as close as 12" which is where one of my anesthesia's is at. I do not reccomend this and I think 30" from the main stem is best.

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Thanks for the lamp distance info.
Any other substitute for chunky perlite?
Just to confirm nutes: Maxi-Bloom, Green Planets Massive, hygrozyme, cal mag, and Amino Aide. Do you have a brand suggestion on cal mag and Amino Aide, as well as amounts? Thank you.

Ventilation and temps will be my challenge. Had a larger tent before and have a Can 50 Combo which at first glance is a bit much, yet with a speed controller might do the trick. http://htgsupply.com/Product-Can-50-Combo.asp

Wonder if you might provide a vid or pics showing off your set-up, along with vent, intake, outflow, and what fans you're using?

Thanks, again.

If his coco is high quality he should water daily, more if he can afford the time.

It should maintain a really good level of aeration for the plants, it's why many folks swear by it.

Water daily at a minimum with coco.

It's hydroponic and has an affinity for Cal/Mag. Most coco specific nutes have extra cal/mag.


Looking forward to seeing how this grow turns out.

medhed said:

Thanks for the lamp distance info.
Any other substitute for chunky perlite?
Just to confirm nutes: Maxi-Bloom, Green Planets Massive, hygrozyme, cal mag, and Amino Aide. Do you have a brand suggestion on cal mag and Amino Aide, as well as amounts? Thank you.

Ventilation and temps will be my challenge. Had a larger tent before and have a Can 50 Combo which at first glance is a bit much, yet with a speed controller might do the trick. http://htgsupply.com/Product-Can-50-Combo.asp

Wonder if you might provide a vid or pics showing off your set-up, along with vent, intake, outflow, and what fans you're using?

Thanks, again.

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MH, When I get a chance I will snap some pics of everything you asked. You can substitute hydroton for perlite, or Lava rocks, or Grow Stones from botanicare. Skip the amino aide, it is super expensive and just grab some Maxi Crop liquid seaweed. I will be using that instead of Amino Aide here in a little bit. As far as Cal Mag I have only used Botanicare's CalMag+ Used the cal mag @10 ml per gallon during the weekly flush, and the recommended dosage of Maxi crop Seaweed, and 5ml Per Gallon of hygrozyme. Use only those three products during your weekly flush. For your Daily or Bi-Daily feedings in flower use the Maxi-Bloom and Massive only. I do this because Hygrozyme, Cal Mag, and Amino Aide or seaweed together create a "funk" in my reservoir if left for more than 1 or 2 days. Are you going to run soil or Coco? During veg feed Maxi-Bloom @ 1/2 tsp per gallon.

OGEvilgenius said:

If his coco is high quality he should water daily, more if he can afford the time.

It should maintain a really good level of aeration for the plants, it's why many folks swear by it.

Water daily at a minimum with coco.

It's hydroponic and has an affinity for Cal/Mag. Most coco specific nutes have extra cal/mag.


Looking forward to seeing how this grow turns out.

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Yea I water daily during flower, Coco actually only retains Calcium. I also thought the same thing. MaximumYield posted a study and during diffferent tests it showed the coco hogs calcium not Magnesium. http://maximumyield.com/component/k2/item/379-know-what-you-grow-in

I agree, videos are a nice touch... I have kind of a bitter sweet feeling about that though, I have a very nice video camera and some other video gadgets and love taking and editing videos, only issue is It's nice to be known for what you create and I would have to make a more anonymous YouTube account to really feel ok about posting videos. I'd like to do it as well but if things blew up it would suck not being able to take credit for things... I am a legal medical grower but it's still not something you want your name attached to.

Nice grow by the way, looking good... kind of similar to how I wanted to do my vertical setup... might still do it, undecided but it's almost time to think about it.

DrGribble said:

I agree, videos are a nice touch... I have kind of a bitter sweet feeling about that though, I have a very nice video camera and some other video gadgets and love taking and editing videos, only issue is It's nice to be known for what you create and I would have to make a more anonymous YouTube account to really feel ok about posting videos. I'd like to do it as well but if things blew up it would suck not being able to take credit for things... I am a legal medical grower but it's still not something you want your name attached to.

Nice grow by the way, looking good... kind of similar to how I wanted to do my vertical setup... might still do it, undecided but it's almost time to think about it.

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yeah, I dont even know how safe this site is, I can tell you play it on the down-low, because you only have 20 posts, I respect that

Sebastien Blades said:

MH, When I get a chance I will snap some pics of everything you asked. You can substitute hydroton for perlite, or Lava rocks, or Grow Stones from botanicare. Skip the amino aide, it is super expensive and just grab some Maxi Crop liquid seaweed. I will be using that instead of Amino Aide here in a little bit. As far as Cal Mag I have only used Botanicare's CalMag+ Used the cal mag @10 ml per gallon during the weekly flush, and the recommended dosage of Maxi crop Seaweed, and 5ml Per Gallon of hygrozyme. Use only those three products during your weekly flush. For your Daily or Bi-Daily feedings in flower use the Maxi-Bloom and Massive only. I do this because Hygrozyme, Cal Mag, and Amino Aide or seaweed together create a "funk" in my reservoir if left for more than 1 or 2 days. Are you going to run soil or Coco? During veg feed Maxi-Bloom @ 1/2 tsp per gallon.

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"...together create a "funk" in my reservoir ..." Do you mean in a "hempy bucket?"

Set-up pics or included in next vid, no matter...lookin' forward, Thanks. Thanks for rounding out your coco regime.

Once set-up, plan to use up remaining FF soil and that'll prolly leave room for a couple 3gal. coco pots, too. Ideally set-up complete within next month or two at outside. Gettin' antsy to pop some beans soon. Med user, so indicas/hybrids of course, yet I'd like to train at least one landrace sativa on a screen along one side. Results here will give me a better idea about this.

How long did you veg and why? Does coco and/or planning for 3gal. coco call for min's/max's, different considerations, etc.? I'd appreciate any insight. Thanks

Also, watched your first video and noticed you cloned directly into coco? If so, with pretty good success? How cool is that.

Finally,

To SB and All: What's the trick to light-free intake? Does passive suffice in this size tent?

Great thread.

Cheers,

medhed said:

"...together create a "funk" in my reservoir ..." Do you mean in a "hempy bucket?"

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No I mean when I mix up all of the nutrients together in a separate 5 gal bucket to water the plants.

medhed said:

Set-up pics or included in next vid, no matter...lookin' forward, Thanks. Thanks for rounding out your coco regime.

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I get mt camera back Saturday, so an update will come around then.

medhed said:

How long did you veg and why? Does coco and/or planning for 3gal. coco call for min's/max's, different considerations, etc.? I'd appreciate any insight. Thanks

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I veg for however long my plants are flowering for. So 8 weeks total including two weeks for rooting. Veg time all depends on your space and how many plants you run.

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Also, watched your first video and noticed you cloned directly into coco? If so, with pretty good success? How cool is that.

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Nice!!!!! Pics would be cool too

Sebastien Blades said:

No I mean when I mix up all of the nutrients together in a separate 5 gal bucket to water the plants.

I veg for however long my plants are flowering for. So 8 weeks total including two weeks for rooting. Veg time all depends on your space and how many plants you run.

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Thanks for the reply and clarification.

Vent Question: 1st grow, I had the luxury of blacking-out the entire room that my tent was in. Now, with lights-out during the day, I'm curious to know ideal way to achieve "light-free" vent intake. Some quick reading suggested 90degree bend in PVC pipe, in which case am I bound by the diameter of the intake port? I am open to suggestions. How is yours set-up?

Also cloning in coco, do you simply place in coco and water daily? Thanks, again.

Seems there's a few of us lookin' forward to pics/vid.

medhed said:

Thanks for the reply and clarification.

Vent Question: 1st grow, I had the luxury of blacking-out the entire room that my tent was in. Now, with lights-out during the day, I'm curious to know ideal way to achieve "light-free" vent intake. Some quick reading suggested 90degree bend in PVC pipe, in which case am I bound by the diameter of the intake port? I am open to suggestions. How is yours set-up?

Also cloning in coco, do you simply place in coco and water daily? Thanks, again.

Seems there's a few of us lookin' forward to pics/vid.

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MH, as far as intake goes this is how mine is setup.


On the other side of the reflectix is a window, and at the end of the vent is my intake fan. I also have a 6" passive intake. (Just a 6" hole in the cieling of the room)
Turns are your best bet for trapping light. However it does restrict air flow. You can take some flex duct and run it in some loops and your problem is solved. Just remember to have a bigger intake fans. You could awlays put a reducer on your ducting to go from 6" fan down to 4" Duct.

When I clone in coco I water the coco with some thrive alive B1 @ 8ml per gallon, and saturate the coco until I get a little run off out of the bottom. Then I dip the cutting in some clonex, and insert directly into the coco. Make sure you have ATLEAST 2 nodes buried in the coco. Then I do not water until the plants are rooted out of the bottom of the cup which is about 10 days. Very simple.

FINALLY snapped some pics. Day 33 of flower.
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[video=youtube;CXCC_umFIyo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXCC_umFIyo[/video]

Sebastien Blades said:

Turns are your best bet for trapping light. You can take some flex duct and run it in some loops and your problem is solved. Just remember to have a bigger intake fans.

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Brilliantly simple. I have plenty of flex duct and the canna filter will provide a surplus of intake.

Sebastien Blades said:

When I clone in coco I water the coco with some thrive alive B1 @ 8ml per gallon, and saturate the coco until I get a little run off out of the bottom. Then I dip the cutting in some clonex, and insert directly into the coco. Make sure you have ATLEAST 2 nodes buried in the coco. Then I do not water until the plants are rooted out of the bottom of the cup which is about 10 days.

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Thanks for clone advice. To confirm, "about 10 days?" What sized container do you recommend for each clone? It seems to me the coco will dry out long before 10 days.


Re: Germinating. I'd appreciate how you use coco when starting a bean. Will rock wool cubes work and then place them into a larger container of coco?

Also, for a perpetual garden...I will guess you have others vegging at the moment?

Great pics/video...lookin' forward to next updates.

Cheers,

Here is an update for you all. Day 41 of flower.
[video=youtube;gOjf5Q2z4wA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOjf5Q2z4wA&feature=plcp[/video]

medhed said:

Brilliantly simple. I have plenty of flex duct and the canna filter will provide a surplus of intake.




Thanks for clone advice. To confirm, "about 10 days?" What sized container do you recommend for each clone? It seems to me the coco will dry out long before 10 days.


Re: Germinating. I'd appreciate how you use coco when starting a bean. Will rock wool cubes work and then place them into a larger container of coco?

Also, for a perpetual garden...I will guess you have others vegging at the moment?

Great pics/video...lookin' forward to next updates.

Cheers,

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MH, the clones do not dry out within those 10 days. I also spray inside my tub when I first put the clones in. I use plastic cups, the 16oz ones.
In the following video you can see how I clone: [video=youtube;DAWrodMRLFc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAWrodMRLFc&feature=plcp[/video]
As far as germinating goes I use the paper towel method and then straight into damp coco.

Yes I do have plants vegging at the moment, it is actually way over crowded right now!

Sebastien Blades said:

MH, the clones do not dry out within those 10 days. I also spray inside my tub when I first put the clones in. I use plastic cups, the 16oz ones.

As far as germinating goes I use the paper towel method and then straight into damp coco.

Yes I do have plants vegging at the moment, it is actually way over crowded right now!

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As always, thanks for the reply, info and the updates. So, essentially once your seeds crack you drop into coco or is it easy/soft enough to let them extend out a bit?

Am diggin' this thread ... seems quite simple and I'm lookin' forward to trying a coco grow.

Right now my veg area has only larger cfl's. Have you found it worthwhile using a 400w?

Where'd you get grape quake? Sounds like a badass cross

hey bro quick suggestion you should put a treles on ur wals and veg it up againts the wall you will notice that the lower buds become main colas and all ur colas will be uniform and the same, just a suggestion bro liking the grow

how about a video running your hands through some coco. I am in an area where the grow shops can't get it and i would have to ship to the house. A little nervous about that especially never having saw the stuff before and being unsure of how much different it is to my roots coco palms or botanicare coco. Everything i read talks about being able to water daily and its not possible for me i think they would drown feel like my stuff has alot of pyth. I searched out a pet store and found some stuff to mix in that is more fiberous.