mellokitty
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already flushing --> no marked improvement --> don't think it's n tox.
16000+ watts medigrow: og kush+ 13 x 1kw hps + 3 x t5 badboys + grotek = *HAPPY JOY*
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a mongo frog
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do u guys do 2 trims, when trimming og kush? like first trim, then hang then do a final trim?
blaze1camp
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very nice catching it late but look real good...
kevin murphy
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new update on my thread mrs kitty or hit my signature hun...
mellokitty
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this is the part where it gets all "romeo and juliet" around the kitty's house.... he's a "trim it wet then rack it" and i'm a "hang it till it's crispy then trim."
since he has veto power when push comes to shove, i just go ahead and hang "my share" (however many i can get hung before he starts bitching
). and then, since i'm stubbornly doing it my way, i'm on my own when it comes to trimming those once they're crispy. not that i mind. once they're crispy on the outside a lot of it just crumbles off anyway.i prefer to hang the whole friggin thing, as is, without cleaning up fan leaves. it makes for a slower dry (because those fanleaves have a lot of extra moisture), and a slower dry makes for a smoother cure, imo.
so yeah, we have to do 2 trims, but not the way you think.
mellokitty
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ain't that the worst? i once did a "job" where the stuff got quick-dried until it was crispy on the outside, then it got packed into totes and shipped an 8 hr drive to where the trim team were waiting. shit sweated it out in the totes and was a sweaty mess by the time we got to it.... you know how it gets wet again before your first "burp"? it was like that. total trimming PIA. 3 scissor strokes where one would have done it on fresh product.... slows down production.... and then the boss comes in to bitch you out about how it's going sooooo slooooow and you're like "i'm gonna throw my scissors at you, you don't shut up."
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mellokitty
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so... like.... nobody's gonna tell me what anime that tune's from? (bonus points if you can name the track correctly) 
a mongo frog
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whrn u guys do a wet trim, is that considered the final. or do u guys go over it then clip into bags? do u go into paper first or bags then tumble 3-4 times daily. just wondering.
Dubbz0r
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I know exactly what you mean kitty lol that's why I prefer the wet trim. When I chopped my kush I didn't feel like trimming them so I chopped and hung... never again... from this point forward i'll always trim and hang. I understand that it takes them longer to dry doing it your way but it takes too much out of the scissors
Mongo, I do one trim before they hang and that's it. Well unless you count cutting off excess stems before the smoker/patient gets it.
Mongo, I do one trim before they hang and that's it. Well unless you count cutting off excess stems before the smoker/patient gets it.
kevin murphy
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new updates on my signature hun and im breeding now so want any input possible that u might have...
Wolverine97
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Kitty, continuing a convo from another site; did you ever hear back from your guy at CAP about the Quantum ballasts and Digilux bulbs?
hazorazo
New Member
Really nice looking plants, there, Kitty! Are those OG? Regardless of strain, really enjoy checking out your grows! Great stuff!
mellokitty
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depends on the crew. if we can get the team i used to run with (we'll call them Team Cougar), they're easily world-class; they're all ex-hairdressers who spent between 4 and 10 years trimming full-time (5 days a week, 10 hr days) so NOBODY has to go back over their shit, no matter how shitty it starts out. ah, those were the days.....
anybody else and yeah, shit needs "cleaned up" before bagging.
we don't have a "set method" when it comes to finishing up. the wet trim usually gets racked until it's crispy on the outside, and then it goes in bags (quite often garbage bags at this stage) for a sweat. when it sogs back up again, it goes back on the racks until they get crispy again. and then it goes into zipzags (like ziplocs but actually air/water proof) for burping.
mellokitty
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once its been cut down whole and it gets soggy, i won't touch it until it gets crispy. if you wait long enough (usually about a week, sometimes up to 10 days) you can strike a balance where it's crispy on the outside but the stalks don't 'snap'. at this point trimming is like butter... less scissor strokes because a lot of stuff crumbles off when you rub it. gentle handling is required at this point, but the bling is just amazing.
i went on a pre-emptive strike and hung a few up already...
mellokitty
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oh kevin, i'm not a breeder. (i have a whole lot of theoretical information and zero realworld experience at it.)
****OK, LET'S ALL HEAD OVER TO KEV'S FOR A SEXFEST..... ****
mellokitty
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my guys aren't from CAP... i know people from quantum (amerinada) and a consultant for lumatek.
as far as your ballast choice, well, you can guess what brand each of them recommended.
bulb-wise, quantum apparently just finished running bulb tests; says he'll send me the report if i want -- should be available sometime next week.
still waiting for a response from my other guy, but he's in high demand and that's to be expected... i'll just have to go slap him in the face with a nugget one of these days and say "slow down for a minute; i need your attention while we smoke this...."
mellokitty
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i should really check my email before riu.... this is the response from my friend the lumatek consultant:
Great Question:
This was the case like 3 or more years ago. [<--- he's referring to the "you HAVE to use e-ballast-specific bulbs" thingy here.]
What was happening was the harmonics from E ballasts were breaking the arc tube in the bulbs.
This has been addressed by increasing the welds on the arc tube that most bulb manufacturers have now done so this is not the case anymore.
Digilux (R&M product), is a slick marketing bulb, but still is a Chinese Lamp just in nice packaging (Oooo Velvet Liner).
Sun Pulse made the same claim that they were the one and only Eballast lamp but still had Chinese quality problems.
I still would recommend Hotilux and Ushio over the Digilux.
Hortilux and Ushio use a Japanese Arc Tube and then it’s sent to Germany for the Gas and Glass.
China is getting better, but still quality control issues are still a problem.
Sylvania Plantastar’s Rock and is a little cheaper lampfor E Ballasts, but I think there only available in Canada.
fwiw, next time we swap out bulbs i think we're gonna get ushio's.....
Great Question:
This was the case like 3 or more years ago. [<--- he's referring to the "you HAVE to use e-ballast-specific bulbs" thingy here.]
What was happening was the harmonics from E ballasts were breaking the arc tube in the bulbs.
This has been addressed by increasing the welds on the arc tube that most bulb manufacturers have now done so this is not the case anymore.
Digilux (R&M product), is a slick marketing bulb, but still is a Chinese Lamp just in nice packaging (Oooo Velvet Liner).
Sun Pulse made the same claim that they were the one and only Eballast lamp but still had Chinese quality problems.
I still would recommend Hotilux and Ushio over the Digilux.
Hortilux and Ushio use a Japanese Arc Tube and then it’s sent to Germany for the Gas and Glass.
China is getting better, but still quality control issues are still a problem.
Sylvania Plantastar’s Rock and is a little cheaper lampfor E Ballasts, but I think there only available in Canada.
fwiw, next time we swap out bulbs i think we're gonna get ushio's.....
TheLastWood
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I can't wait till they make 600 and 1000 w cmh's.
Wolverine97
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Word. That'll be nice.