12/12 From Seed Experiment - 21 Strains

Hot Diggity Sog

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Chapter 3 Update
Day 60
Flowering Day 27

Things are going great still. Now that I've been topping off the rez instead of changing it, I'm really on auto-pilot for the most part. I just love this system. The thought of going back to hand watering and then disposing of run-off...yuck. They are drinking about 4 1/2 gallons a day now so I'm topping off each day with Part A&B, ZONE and PH down. EC, temps and PH are very stable. PH usually jumps to 6.1 after the top-off and slowly trickles to 5.9 by the following day. Honestly, I would not mind seeing it fluctuate a bit more than that but the consistency is nice.

I've decided to remove the 1000 watt HPS and now have (2) 600 watt HPS. The C99's are really hogging the space and causing some issues. With (2) 600's, I have more flexibility with positioning. Also, the 1000 watt was having a difficult time giving good coverage from top to bottom. It also was a little too close to the plants due to the C99's sticking out so damned far.

I'll be taking all of my nerd measurements over the next few days to determine the final specs on the next octagon. I've decided to run Skunk #1 for the next octagon. While the Sour Blueberry and Blueberry Headband strains are exactly what I'm looking for from a growth standpoint, I have no idea if these strains will be well received. People went nuts over the Skunk #1 and I already know it is a very stable strain and am confident it will be suitable.

EC crept up to 1.2 last night and is currently sitting there. It's hard to fathom that they are being overfed at 1.2 but I think they are. Tomorrow's topoff will have a nute reduction. I guess I'll try and get down to 1.0 and see how they look.

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Budget Buds

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I was offered clones of the c 99 once and turned it down due to them possibly having mites, Not sorry at all about it after seeing yours, No disrespect to your grow but c99 will be ones I will never try. Of course I'm a sog guy and we all love the short single cola indica too. Your room and plants look great as always :)
 

Hot Diggity Sog

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I was offered clones of the c 99 once and turned it down due to them possibly having mites, Not sorry at all about it after seeing yours, No disrespect to your grow but c99 will be ones I will never try. Of course I'm a sog guy and we all love the short single cola indica too. Your room and plants look great as always :)
Thanks man. And yup, no C99 for me ever again.
 

Sativied

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Where did you get the C99? It's supposed to be short for a sativa and fast flowering (barely 8 weeks). Yours looks more like a remake than the actual cubed C99 from the Grimm Bros.

EC crept up to 1.2 last night and is currently sitting there. It's hard to fathom that they are being overfed at 1.2 but I think they are. Tomorrow's topoff will have a nute reduction. I guess I'll try and get down to 1.0 and see how they look."
As you can see in the last pics the bb headband has some burned tips indicating it prefers a little lower EC. The others have some clawing at the top too so yeah 1.0 will probably be a little easier on them.

I've decided to run Skunk #1 for the next octagon.
Excellent choice imo.

And great to hear the topping off with nutes is working out as well for you as it did for me ("auto-pilot"... 'nough said.)
 

Hot Diggity Sog

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Where did you get the C99? It's supposed to be short for a sativa and fast flowering (barely 8 weeks). Yours looks more like a remake than the actual cubed C99 from the Grimm Bros.


As you can see in the last pics the bb headband has some burned tips indicating it prefers a little lower EC. The others have some clawing at the top too so yeah 1.0 will probably be a little easier on them.

Excellent choice imo.

And great to hear the topping off with nutes is working out as well for you as it did for me ("auto-pilot"... 'nough said.)
The C99's are from 'Female Seeds'. I'm actually considering chopping some branches cause they are interfering with the plants next to them. Female seeds states flowering time of 7 to 8 weeks. Based on how they look, that seems incredibly unlikely.
 

Sativied

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Figured they were from Female Seeds. They chucked a C99 pineapple pheno with a C99 grapefruit pheno to create some fem beans. It often gets great reviews but that seems more about the product than the plants. The compact indica-like pheno of C99 needs about 8 weeks, the hazy/sativa pheno more like 9-10 and it's obvious which of the two you got. Especially considering you grow 12/12 from the start yours got very tall and lanky. I still think it could surprise later on, it does tend to fill in nicely and keep stacking layers of bud.
 

Hot Diggity Sog

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Figured they were from Female Seeds. They chucked a C99 pineapple pheno with a C99 grapefruit pheno to create some fem beans. It often gets great reviews but that seems more about the product than the plants. The compact indica-like pheno of C99 needs about 8 weeks, the hazy/sativa pheno more like 9-10 and it's obvious which of the two you got. Especially considering you grow 12/12 from the start yours got very tall and lanky. I still think it could surprise later on, it does tend to fill in nicely and keep stacking layers of bud.
Well...we're all gunna see!
 

Alaric

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Ditto the auto pilot.

You could add a float valve to your existing rez. Add a large tank elevated higher than your rez ( I added a float valve to the large tank so I would't hear that splash- splash sound when filling.
A valve I really like came from Agri-supply (last time $30)---called a ro-jo valve.

Hey S, the c99 I grew once came from Mr Soul via Heavens Stairway---- looked nothing like the one in the pic and very close in yield to NL5.

A~~~
 

Hot Diggity Sog

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Looking good hotd. Any plans of defoliation soon? I remember a company about 2-3 years ago was selling a system like yours. They had systems that would go from 48-96 sites and it would fit in a gorrila 5x5 tent. I should have jumped on it. And no it wasn't the coliseum. Lol
I've been doing a little here and there the whole time. Will probably do some more soon to clear up a little space and get some more light in there.
 

hayrolld

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Hey Hot Diggity, glad to hear the system is running well now. The plants are looking good! I would not judge any strain based off of Female Seeds version of it. I tried a couple things from them, and both were very dissapointing. I really like the C99 bx from Mosca, had a couple good phenos including a fast pineapple smelling one. Probably would still be a little bushy to run easily in your setup. Once you build an octagon you are happy with, we are going to have to get you cloning. That way once you find a plant that grows and smokes the way you want, you can make as many copies as you need for each grow.
 

Hot Diggity Sog

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Hey Hot Diggity, glad to hear the system is running well now. The plants are looking good! I would not judge any strain based off of Female Seeds version of it. I tried a couple things from them, and both were very dissapointing. I really like the C99 bx from Mosca, had a couple good phenos including a fast pineapple smelling one. Probably would still be a little bushy to run easily in your setup. Once you build an octagon you are happy with, we are going to have to get you cloning. That way once you find a plant that grows and smokes the way you want, you can make as many copies as you need for each grow.
Ya know, longer term you're probably right. I was hoping to be able to create my own fem seeds but the thought of finding a couple of awesome pheno's to make mom's out of is probably the way to go.
 

Hot Diggity Sog

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Ditto the auto pilot.

You could add a float valve to your existing rez. Add a large tank elevated higher than your rez ( I added a float valve to the large tank so I would't hear that splash- splash sound when filling.
A valve I really like came from Agri-supply (last time $30)---called a ro-jo valve.

Hey S, the c99 I grew once came from Mr Soul via Heavens Stairway---- looked nothing like the one in the pic and very close in yield to NL5.

A~~~
Thats a really good idea. Gunna get to reading to learn about these.
 

Alaric

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Thats a really good idea. Gunna get to reading to learn about these.
Another feature I accidentally discovered. Say you have a 44 gallon garbage can filled with 35 gallons elevated above the lower rez------your pump is running continuously feeding your plants----T into the feed line coming from the pump and put a valve going to the upper tank (I just used 1/2" poly) By doing this you're constantly recirculating your full volume of nutes through the tubes. Just make sure the nutes being bleed back to the upper rez is less than the amount being fed to the lower rez.

Over in the hydro forum I'm about to get into the design I used (An outlaw's journal).

A~~~
 
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