12/12+CFL+HB's=perpetual?

im not an expert grower but i have a lil bit of experiance . i use the paper towel meth. but i moisten the towel with 1/4 strength vegan tea .5-1-1. i also use the pearl lite in dixie cups. i get the average of 90% healthy rapid growing seedlings. pearl lite doesnt have any type of nutes except sodium thats why it takes so long to grow. if u use the tea from the start it helps the seedling get used to the nutes faster . use the 1/4 strength nutesfor 1 week after the second set of leaves show then go to 1/2 strength so on so forth. this pic shows at two weeks from seed useing this method. the second pic shows at three weeks.

OMG Candy is that algae all over those pots? Your plants look nute burned too.

here is a pic of one of the plants I pulled can someone diadnose it for me please.........it seems to start with the upper fan leaves and the leaves have that reverese canoe look.......any ideas?

Looks like nute burn to me.

alright guys I am back, got really busy working, kids are sick I am sick hell even the plants were sick..........anyway I scrapped all the ladies that were burned beyond repair made a few grams of iso hash, so I had to think and do some research so I am in soil now as previously reported, I think this will solve the problems I had....so the mission remains the same, I am using the same containers, I transplanted what I could salvage and everyone has taken too it fine, I will continue on with the grow, I think I could have done fine using hb's if I used hydro nutes, but my goal is to avoid having to go to the hydro store or order online, so that wont work......i now have drainage holes in the bottom of the bottles like a conventional soil grow, i tried cloning in perlite and lost one so I will stick with the jiffy peat pellets they never fail me........I have 3 more spots to fill to reach 21 so I have some beans soaking, I will not start beans in 12 oz cups and then transplant to bottles after 3-4 weeks so I can burry them deep to accomadate for stretch, i will be back to more regular updates now that my work project is about done, here are a few random pics, I do have some sativas that are just starting to flower they are going to have to get bent or something they are already almost too tall for the box any suggestions?

also I think the molases may have been a part of my problem so I am no longer going to use it, for the most part the plants will just get water that is ph at 6,5 with a drop of superthrive, when they look "hungry" i wll give them a dose of the doctor bud mix...........

the lady on the right is the one that needs to be tied down i think it may be too late to top her??? she is throwing pistils?? what do you guys think? I am open to ideas.......

bigd921 said:

the lady on the right is the one that needs to be tied down i think it may be too late to top her??? she is throwing pistils?? what do you guys think? I am open to ideas.......

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yo dude do not top her at this stage bcuz your plant will stop developing budding sites and instead concentrate its energy on leaf and stem growth. trust me man i wouldn't steer you wrong.

ok quick news flash I got it confirmed from dr bud that the molasses was the problem........so it is scratched and we move forward.

cron should I just bend the top down maybe try some lst?...............

nothing to report today everything is looking pretty good I planted 3 more seeds today so I am up to 21 again......now we just wait and let them grow, I am happy I figured out the problem was the molasses, hate it ruined so many plants before I figured it out, but better late than never...........i may do a full pic spread just to get caught up on what i have in the box, so stick with me guys,

going to spend some time this weekend putting together a rubbermaid cab for moms..........what I have learned is that cloning is so easy with these jiffy pucks that I am going to get 2 westside and 1 purple mom, going to do them bonsai style keep them very short so I am going to run more seeds to sex, I will take the tops after they first show female parts, I will put those clones in the mom box and they will become mothers...going to be a busy weekend I will keep you guys posted.my reasoning behind this is just the simplicity of the clones i will only use 2 26w 5000k foor the veg cag very simple, i will take the tops for clones and put them straight into the flower cab..........the goal is to keep 3-4 moms

Lookin good yo,
I think you should try super croping on that tall one, its where you firmly pinch a point on the stem and i kinda just flops over and continuse on.

oden230 said:

Lookin good yo,
I think you should try super croping on that tall one, its where you firmly pinch a point on the stem and i kinda just flops over and continuse on.

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I was just reading up on that... I may give it a shot she is still stretching

Hey BigD, I have been following this thread from the beginning. Im kind of doing the 12 12 thing with 5 plants but I let one plant veg for 2.5 weeks before adding in the others. I'm using about 10k lumen t5 HO with hydro nutes (flora nova series) in a mini rubbermaid cab and 20oz. hempys. Everything is going very smoothly so far, but the one plant that I veged for 2.5 weeks is almost 8in tall now, it was all low grade bagseed so no idea on strain info (def. a indica or hybrid though). I have room for about another 12-13in of growth on her and she just started throwing out her white hairs a couple days ago. It is looking very promising but with her 2.5 week veg do you think height will be an issue, seems shes growing about a 1/4 inch a day now and im really hoping she will stop sometime soon lol. Also a concern is pot size. If she gets much bigger do you think i will need to transpant out of the 20oz styrafoam into something larger, I do not want her to become root locked. 1st timer here just looking for some advice. Thanks

your root should be ok, its the head space you need to consider

Finally got everyone in soil now and things are looking better got some new seeds going , also put together a little rubbermaid box for moms, I tokk oe of the girls that just showed she gave up 4 clones, so the mother collection is started, I have 3 ladies flowering now, I will take 90% of the bud from them when they are done, and then reveg them to become mothers, I also started 4 seeds hoping to find a mother from some gifted seeds (strain called green magic) i will let them veg til I can top them and then they will go into flower I will keep the tops as clones of course, when my ladies show, they will be reverted back to veg and the clones will be flowered..... a pic of 2 of my girls that are budding ( they will both be revegged) and of the little rubbermaid box............

iam loving this thread...... great posts and info nice one Bigd

boxboy said:

iam loving this thread...... great posts and info nice one Bigd

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thanks brother work has slowed down so I will be updating more often just waiting for my camera to charge.......stay tuned

things still progressing, couple of shots of the mom cab, I have one mom that I took 4 clones from 2 went into the flower box the other 2 will be vegged to be moms..........also some bud shots from one fo the ladies in the flower box she stopped stretching just short of the lights and is looking pretty good, she will probably be revegged and turned into a mom............

10 days go by and I haven't seen a new post.....Has BigD gone missing like Wolfman Zen

still here brothers, things have been progressing just been really busy lately, I have 2 girls that need another 2-3 weeks, I have a bosai mom that is producing clones (6 in the flower box alreads) took 3 more today, and some seedlings going..........here are a few random pics..I am still running test to determine if I will use hbs or soil, so stay tuned, I plan to run 6 clones in hb and 6 in soil and see what works best still using the same nute mix, minus the moleasses, I have my hdro nutes and epsom salt on the standby just in case............