s.c.mtn.hillbilly
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do you have reasonable access to lake or river water that is not love canal 3 eyed carp water? if so, use that.
100% Organic:Getting Chlorine out of tap water.
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cbtwohundread
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the ro system or purified water is all u can do using that fish tank shit will probably make salt buildups in your soil,,and its not organic let ure water sit out for 24-48 hours,if u just have a chlorine problem
I am close to a lake but they are man made and dont have much algae in them........ or so i think.
I also have chloramine though so bubbling it for 3 weeks wont get it out. I think im going to get the distilled water to start just becuase of the cost. I am kinda hesitant to try chemicals that clean out chloramine for that exact reason, its chemical. SO that will probably be my last option. RO is 2nd ( just kinda $$$ and can be a bitch i hear)
I also have chloramine though so bubbling it for 3 weeks wont get it out. I think im going to get the distilled water to start just becuase of the cost. I am kinda hesitant to try chemicals that clean out chloramine for that exact reason, its chemical. SO that will probably be my last option. RO is 2nd ( just kinda $$$ and can be a bitch i hear)
comystocky
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I use a generic aquarium water treatment product that is basically just a solution of sodium thiosulfate - you can get it at petsmart/any place that has fish stuff.
In the water it breaks apart chloramine into chlorine and ammonia, and then reacts with the chlorine and water to create sodium bisulfate and hydrochloric acid.
The hydrochloric acid and sodium bisulfate do have small effect on lower ph, but only slightly. The plants will absorb the ammonia once it is converted into nitrite and then nitrate by the microorganisms.
I don't think this will cause anybuild up of salts in the soil.
Sodium thiosulfate is an antifungal, so i don't know the effect it has on mychorrizae - it seems it is just used as a treatment for skin fungus. I haven't noticed any maleffects in the soil yet.
Has anyone noticed any maleffects that water treated with the common aquarium additives/treatments has on the microorganisms in their soil?
In the water it breaks apart chloramine into chlorine and ammonia, and then reacts with the chlorine and water to create sodium bisulfate and hydrochloric acid.
The hydrochloric acid and sodium bisulfate do have small effect on lower ph, but only slightly. The plants will absorb the ammonia once it is converted into nitrite and then nitrate by the microorganisms.
I don't think this will cause anybuild up of salts in the soil.
Sodium thiosulfate is an antifungal, so i don't know the effect it has on mychorrizae - it seems it is just used as a treatment for skin fungus. I haven't noticed any maleffects in the soil yet.
Has anyone noticed any maleffects that water treated with the common aquarium additives/treatments has on the microorganisms in their soil?
dan catalyst
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rain water and r.o. water both come in at about 10 ppm,as long as thwe rainwater hasnt come off the roof.its all about the same as bottled water.spring water or drinking water will be slighty higher in ppm, but its all the same to your plants.the important thing is that you arnt feeding it chlorime or some of the worse toxics from idustrial runoff.i grow orchids too and they realy freak if you dont give them good water,so i bought a ro system off ebay.it was about $100 and is 6-7 stage with a resiovior.i think your doing the right thing with the jugs from the store,ro is a hassle to hook up but if you ever get realy sick of not having usable water on tap,their are some smaller ro systems for like $65.
TheNatural
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For cheap, you can make a homeade water filter for your Trees and your family.
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Take a 3 to five gallon jug and put a hole in the bottom and drill three 1/8 holes in the lid.
Take two to three coffe filters and put them on the threads were the top goes and screw the top down and put some rubberbands on the access filters hanging out of the lid for conveniance.
Then start filling the bottle from the hole you put in the bottom with layers of aquarium sand and coco and activated carbon, until you have each layer in whole taking up 1/4 to a little less than half of the space of the bottle.
Then fill it up from the tap and it will drip into another container of your choice and you and your plants will have great drinking water for cheap and it DOES work just as well as this is a technique that usesd simple common sense adapts to purifing water.
Change the coffe filters in the lid every week and change the whole filter out every two to three months as needed.
The smell from the top of your homeade filter, will let you know when it needs to be changed.
It is a cheap way of doing it and I and my family drink water purified this way and you will not believe the difference my friend.
Good Luck and Be Blessed,
Rev. Thenatural
See Picture...
Take a 3 to five gallon jug and put a hole in the bottom and drill three 1/8 holes in the lid.
Take two to three coffe filters and put them on the threads were the top goes and screw the top down and put some rubberbands on the access filters hanging out of the lid for conveniance.
Then start filling the bottle from the hole you put in the bottom with layers of aquarium sand and coco and activated carbon, until you have each layer in whole taking up 1/4 to a little less than half of the space of the bottle.
Then fill it up from the tap and it will drip into another container of your choice and you and your plants will have great drinking water for cheap and it DOES work just as well as this is a technique that usesd simple common sense adapts to purifing water.
Change the coffe filters in the lid every week and change the whole filter out every two to three months as needed.
The smell from the top of your homeade filter, will let you know when it needs to be changed.
It is a cheap way of doing it and I and my family drink water purified this way and you will not believe the difference my friend.
Good Luck and Be Blessed,
Rev. Thenatural
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destros beard
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Very cool idea, natural. The only problem I see with that is that it would take a while to fill up. When I need 4 gallons of water every watering, I don't want to be waiting around for that. Also, it probably doesn't change the ph of the water. What is the ppm from the tap and then when its filtered? What is the ph from tap to filtered? The problem is most tap water has VERY high ppm and very high ph. My tap water has a TDS of 315! Hard as fuck! With a ph of 7.8 which is very high. My brita filter gets the ppm down to 110, so not that bad but still hard. Now the water from my dehumidifier in the grow room is 10ppm. BUT the ph is 7.9... You just can't win. 
TheNatural
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What you ask friend, is something that I cannot tell you as I do not have an exact formula as to what the PPM would be.
I simply use my taste buds my friend and they never lie these days.
Doing a filter this way only takes about ten minutes to filter a gallon so deal with a little inconveniance my friend and you will come out cheaper and just as pure as I usually get all of my water purified for my girls done the night before watering.
Now, if you have a whole bunch of plants, then you can just simply take the filter concept and make it bigger; " you could easily do a 25 gallon drum the same way and it would filter all you would need in a couple of hours the night before. "
You can do your adjustments as needed to the water once it runs through the purifier, but I do no adjustments in PH and never have problems of any kind.
Little common sense and time and you will be well on your way to pure water, without contributing much of your hard earned cash for expensive conveniances that do no better and usually not as good.
Be Blessed and Good Luck,
Rev. TheNatural
I simply use my taste buds my friend and they never lie these days.
Doing a filter this way only takes about ten minutes to filter a gallon so deal with a little inconveniance my friend and you will come out cheaper and just as pure as I usually get all of my water purified for my girls done the night before watering.
Now, if you have a whole bunch of plants, then you can just simply take the filter concept and make it bigger; " you could easily do a 25 gallon drum the same way and it would filter all you would need in a couple of hours the night before. "
You can do your adjustments as needed to the water once it runs through the purifier, but I do no adjustments in PH and never have problems of any kind.
Little common sense and time and you will be well on your way to pure water, without contributing much of your hard earned cash for expensive conveniances that do no better and usually not as good.
Be Blessed and Good Luck,
Rev. TheNatural
KaotnyKush
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Hey Natural it would be great if you made a picture tutorial of your filter and posted it in DIY....I love 2 give it a try.....I just got this filtration system as a gift from my mom and ive been using it to water my plants (2 weeks old)...I now have crispy bottom leaves...However this time around I bought some SCHOTTS soil instead of the usual PRO-MiX....so im not sure if its my water, soil or both....I'm just gonna let my tap water sit and continue to collect rain water.....
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violator kush
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boys get to cookin!
KaotnyKush
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what the f does that mean???????
mustbetribbin
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Ascorbic acid (aka vitamin C) will neutralize chloramine and chlorine naturally.
Nature wins again. Pretty dope how it works.
Probably just need some pure tablets of vitamin C, take em drop drop and say bye bye chrlorines. Let it sit few hours - overnight or whatever. Then just check the ph, run a chloramine/chlorine test, filter through activated charcoal or whatever afterwards.
Side note: citric acid is often confused with ascorbic acid, citric acid is not what you want, it is not vitamin C (ascorbic acid), just fyi.
Nature wins again. Pretty dope how it works.
Probably just need some pure tablets of vitamin C, take em drop drop and say bye bye chrlorines. Let it sit few hours - overnight or whatever. Then just check the ph, run a chloramine/chlorine test, filter through activated charcoal or whatever afterwards.
Side note: citric acid is often confused with ascorbic acid, citric acid is not what you want, it is not vitamin C (ascorbic acid), just fyi.
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Dmannn
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In not so many words, Yes.
Depending on strata quantity and bacterial content. Yes.
A lot of people are talking about "DAMN CHLORAMINE" at 240 ppm there is not much to worry about if you contaminate your water with dirt or AACT a day or so before using it.The more contaminated you make the water the more Chloramine becomes "diluted" or unstable and become inert.
If you fill up your containers exposed to UV for a few days 'DAMN CHLORAMINE' at 240 will become unstable and will become inert.
Even still, treated water for sanitization is not a sanitizer in of itself.
Pretty much all water other than tap is excellent. Especially water from springs. It may be high in TDS or "PPM" but its not apples to oranges when there is defined inorganic pollution in the water. Organic total dissolved solids has more of a "buffer" than say nitrate salts which can lock out nutrient. With well water/spring water or even better rain water you also have a more neutral PH. Which is created by the PPM, but also a sum of all its parts.
Chloramine is diluted bleach. Water suppliers and wastewater treatment plants are decommissioning chlorine liquid or gas dosing because of the about of liability gaseous chlorine handing creates. Leaks; IE green clouds of death are a bit frightening in the public eye. Hypochlorite or "super bleach" is a much safer and more manageable option.
Word of caution when dealing with HARD water. Like high sulphur or calcium. The stuff that makes your pipes rusted..Use an RO filter. Mind your water softeners.
As always have your water tested or ask the local water supplier for a test result. Lots are post on the web. BUT when the water factory adds chemical to the supply the PPM spikes and then comes down; to their "random" test result. You can usually take a shower and tell if the water is a bit "bleachy or chlorinated." You could kindly ask the water supplier when they dose the water, and then wait 48 hours between to get the low test result water.
I myself have tested my water and know for a fact I have Chloramine in the water. Where I live surface water is used municipally from the Sacramento and other rivers.Treated with Chloramine. My AACT and soil is fine. I will be installing an inline RO filter on the hose to my garden for peace of mind. The shear quantity of water i will need in later summer will out supply the water containers i have to dilute any Chloramine in the water.
Good luck!
