10 reasons to oppose gay marriage

Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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Beefbisquit said:
As a classically trained cook, I use it frequently.

Not to say it can't be spelled 'Ghi' but every cook book, recipe, etc., etc., that I've seen it in has always spelled it 'ghee'.

Ghee is the most common and accepted way to spell it when using it in English.
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older works spell it Ghi (see the link to Little Black Sambo above, and here)

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/17824/17824-h/17824-h.htm

(presented twice because it's lulzy as fuck.)
 
bhandari1

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Bahahaha...I'm gay, and this shit right here is fucking GAY!...like hardcore, "ghey"...I mean man fucking man, "geigh"! To explain...I'm Gay, You're "Ghey", everybody "Geigh" "Gay"...and the world goes round!
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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bhandari1 said:
Bahahaha...I'm gay, and this shit right here is fucking GAY!...like hardcore, "ghey"...I mean man fucking man, "geigh"! To explain...I'm Gay, You're "Ghey", everybody "Geigh" "Gay"...and the world goes round!
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wouldnt it just be classier to

Just Say Takei?


 
JohnnySocko

JohnnySocko

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I think gay marriage is a lil odd, but I don't care what two other people do...I say screw their tax break tho, they can't reproduce ("as-is"...if they adopt, fine but I can't see ANY two people just hooking up, calling it a marriage and getting the tax break....have a family 1swt and you'll get no push back from me (yeah, don't gimme that crap about two mommies, two daddies, et...gays can raise "normal" kids just fine or at least just as bad)
 
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ChesusRice

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JohnnySocko said:
I think gay marriage is a lil odd, but I don't care what two other people do...I say screw their tax break tho, they can't reproduce ("as-is"...if they adopt, fine but I can't see ANY two people just hooking up, calling it a marriage and getting the tax break....have a family 1swt and you'll get no push back from me (yeah, don't gimme that crap about two mommies, two daddies, et...gays can raise "normal" kids just fine or at least just as bad)
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So the infertile should also be penalized?
What about couples that dont want kids?

Definatly a bigot. And with your speil about evolutionary differences between races. Beginning to think you are a racist as well.
 
nitro harley

nitro harley

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UncleBuck said:
little black sambo? for real?

OMFG.
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Buck ...

Do you remember the restaurants in oregon called " Little Sambos" and they had the little black boy on there signs?.. And then at some point they changed it to "SAMBOS"..I had an uncle that had one of those restaurants off of 82and street back in the late 60s when they had to change the name..It might of been in the 80s they all disappeared...
 
Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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Dr Kynes said:
older works spell it Ghi (see the link to Little Black Sambo above, and here)

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/17824/17824-h/17824-h.htm

(presented twice because it's lulzy as fuck.)
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Quite the publication.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-09-24/food-reviews/30474131_1_oils-high-smoke-point-high-cholesterol
http://culinaryarts.about.com/od/glossary/g/Ghee.htm
http://whatscookingamerica.net/Q-A/ButterGhee.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghee
http://www.chefheidifink.com/blog/indian/how-to-make-ghee-indian-clarified-butter/
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=newtip&dbid=9
http://www.realrawfood.com/making-ghee
 
JohnnySocko

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ChesusRice said:
So the infertile should also be penalized?
What about couples that dont want kids?

Definatly a bigot. And with your speil about evolutionary differences between races. Beginning to think you are a racist as well.
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gheez man, ease up...I'm hardly either...seems you can't approach anything about differences or embrace them w/o a "racist" label....
and yeah, fuck it: blacks do in general run faster than whites; so friggin what...I'd bet a Kenyan beats a Nigerian in a distant race also...(and I said that w/o being a racist or name calling/labeling people) ...maybe some of the right wing ditto heads with their dumb bullshits has got you all sensitive and shit ...


on amore civil note (w/o all the anger): good point about infertile couples, damn good point ....but you aren't thinking this through: so any two idiots can call themselves married just for the tax break then? sorta violates the spirit of the term marriage doesn't it, and all for a better 1040 return...
Read a lil better between the lines and don't be so emotional; and quick to judge
 
JohnnySocko

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...and one more thing on gay marriage...I can't even see why people care what two other peoples relationship with each other is; I personally could give a damn...all I care is about their friggin tax break...why?, what for? I say either have a family or the potential therin to have a family) and I'll support it, str8, gay, single or whatever... ...on this planet it takes two of the opposite sex to do that, hence the "pre-emptive" tax break for hetero couples...if gay, prove to me that your intent is to raise kids, and I'm cool... otherwise, I see a potential for tax abuse (ANY two people calling themselves "married" and saving thousands)...that's all I'm thinking, and yes, I have issue with it....chill with the bigot labels, please!
 
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tokeprep

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JohnnySocko said:
...and one more thing on gay marriage...I can't even see why people care what two other peoples relationship with each other is; I personally could give a damn...all I care is about their friggin tax break...why?, what for? I say either have a family or the potential therin to have a family) and I'll support it, str8, gay, single or whatever... ...on this planet it takes two of the opposite sex to do that, hence the "pre-emptive" tax break for hetero couples...if gay, prove to me that your intent is to raise kids, and I'm cool... otherwise, I see a potential for tax abuse (ANY two people calling themselves "married" and saving thousands)...that's all I'm thinking, and yes, I have issue with it....chill with the bigot labels, please!
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You're assuming there's a tax benefit to being married, which isn't necessarily true. A married couple with two earners is likely to pay more tax as a result of the marriage; a married couple with a single earner is likely to pay less. Since most gay couples have two earners and they tend to earn more money than straight couples, it's likely marriage would result in a higher tax burden, not a lower one.

Not that it should matter. Any two people, man and woman, can already get married for tax reasons. Do they? Generally not. The only sham marriages I know of were carried out to obtain military benefits.
 
see4

see4

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tokeprep said:
You're assuming there's a tax benefit to being married, which isn't necessarily true. A married couple with two earners is likely to pay more tax as a result of the marriage; a married couple with a single earner is likely to pay less. Since most gay couples have two earners and they tend to earn more money than straight couples, it's likely marriage would result in a higher tax burden, not a lower one.

Not that it should matter. Any two people, man and woman, can already get married for tax reasons. Do they? Generally not. The only sham marriages I know of were carried out to obtain military benefits.
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Yes. These are facts I agree with.
 
Doer

Doer

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tokeprep said:
You're assuming there's a tax benefit to being married, which isn't necessarily true. A married couple with two earners is likely to pay more tax as a result of the marriage; a married couple with a single earner is likely to pay less. Since most gay couples have two earners and they tend to earn more money than straight couples, it's likely marriage would result in a higher tax burden, not a lower one.

Not that it should matter. Any two people, man and woman, can already get married for tax reasons. Do they? Generally not. The only sham marriages I know of were carried out to obtain military benefits.
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No the tax is a red herring. It is better to pay separate, and for years we did...no kids.

But, the benefit of marriage is all about privilege and privacy in the legal sense.


  • Right to benefits while married:
    • Employment assistance and transitional services for spouses of members being separated from military service; continued commissary privileges
    • Per diem payment to spouse for federal civil service employees when relocating
    • Indian Health Service care for spouses of Native Americans (in some circumstances)
    • Sponsor husband/wife for immigration benefits
  • Larger benefits under some programs if married, including:
  • Joint and family-related rights:
    • Joint filing of bankruptcy permitted
    • Joint parenting rights, such as access to children's school records
    • Family visitation rights for the spouse and non-biological children, such as to visit a spouse in a hospital or prison
    • Next-of-kin status for emergency medical decisions or filing wrongful death claims
    • Custodial rights to children, shared property, child support, and alimony after divorce
    • Domestic violence intervention
    • Access to "family only" services, such as reduced rate memberships to clubs & organizations or residency in certain neighborhoods
  • Preferential hiring for spouses of veterans in government jobs
  • Tax-free transfer of property between spouses (including on death) and exemption from "due-on-sale" clauses.
  • Special consideration to spouses of citizens and resident aliens
  • Threats against spouses of various federal employees is a federal crime
  • Right to continue living on land purchased from spouse by National Park Service when easement granted to spouse
  • Court notice of probate proceedings
  • Domestic violence protection orders
  • Existing homestead lease continuation of rights
  • Regulation of condominium sales to owner-occupants exemption
  • Funeral and bereavement leave
  • Joint adoption and foster care
  • Joint tax filing
  • Insurance licenses, coverage, eligibility, and benefits organization of mutual benefits society
  • Legal status with stepchildren
  • Making spousal medical decisions
  • Spousal non-resident tuition deferential waiver
  • Permission to make funeral arrangements for a deceased spouse, including burial or cremation
  • Right of survivorship of custodial trust
  • Right to change surname upon marriage
  • Right to enter into prenuptial agreement
  • Right to inheritance of property
  • Spousal privilege in court cases (the marital confidences privilege and the spousal testimonial privilege)
  • For those divorced or widowed, the right to many of ex- or late spouse's benefits, including:
    • Social Security pension
    • Veteran's pensions, indemnity compensation for service-connected deaths, medical care, and nursing home care, right to burial in veterans' cemeteries, educational assistance, and housing
    • survivor benefits for federal employees
    • Survivor benefits for spouses of longshoremen, harbor workers, railroad workers
    • Additional benefits to spouses of coal miners who die of black lung disease
    • $100,000 to spouse of any public safety officer killed in the line of duty
    • Continuation of employer-sponsored health benefits
    • Renewal and termination rights to spouse's copyrights on death of spouse
    • Continued water rights of spouse in some circumstances
    • Payment of wages and workers compensation benefits after worker death
    • Making, revoking, and objecting to post-mortem anatomical gifts
 
Kdog988

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I could care less about gay marrige. If they are happy together than let them be. As long as they dont hit on me im fine with it
 
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tokeprep

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Kdog988 said:
I could care less about gay marrige. If they are happy together than let them be. As long as they dont hit on me im fine with it
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Stop being so insecure and learn to take a compliment. When girls hit on me I'm flattered, not offended.
 
JohnnySocko

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tokeprep said:
You're assuming there's a tax benefit to being married, which isn't necessarily true. A married couple with two earners is likely to pay more tax as a result of the marriage; a married couple with a single earner is likely to pay less. Since most gay couples have two earners and they tend to earn more money than straight couples, it's likely marriage would result in a higher tax burden, not a lower one.

Not that it should matter. Any two people, man and woman, can already get married for tax reasons. Do they? Generally not. The only sham marriages I know of were carried out to obtain military benefits.
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decent, well thought out points: Agreed
 
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