2x2x5 Grow Lab - Reserva Privada Headband ... [ 100w T5 veg / 250w HPS flower ]

Someguy15 said:

Hey Verde nice grow. Veggies are looking great. I have 2 diff phenos of the RP headband myself and both are pretty stretchy. I flowered at about 15" and ended up with plants about 42" lol just beware, a bit of sativa in her! Subscribed.

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Yessir!

I spoke to upthearsenal about this before I even planted my seeds. He warned me about a 3-3.5x flower stretch.. So I'm *anticipating* 4x stretch to be safe.. I have a little over 2 feet to work with from soil level to flower tops in the end, so I am flowering at around 6 inches.



Grow update: I just watered my plants with about 3L balanced plain water.. I won't see them for 3 days, and they were already about 30-45% larger than they were on day 27..

I will probably start 12/12 in a week or two.. It depends.

I guess I will set up my screen, try to let them veg into the screen and start flowering? I've never used a screen, so I'm not sure how/when to begin approaching it. Any tips? I know I want to let the tops grow up into the screen, and tuck it under and away from the center to utilize my space. But I don't know if most people do that before or after the flower stretch? Both? After 2-3 weeks flower just let them grow out of the screen?

This should be fun! The ladies are smelling pretty diesel. Like a jungle plant, musky dankness.

Sr. Verde said:

Yessir!

I spoke to hotheaded snap about this whefore I even planted my seeds. He warned me about a 3-3.5x flower stretch.. So I'm *anticipating* 4x stretch to be safe.. I have a little over 2 feet to work with from soil level to flower tops in the end, so I am flowering at around 6 inches.



Grow update: I just watered my plants with about 3L balanced plain water.. I won't see them for 3 days, and they were already about 30-45% larger than they were on day 27..

I will probably start 12/12 in a week or two.. It depends.

I guess I will set up my screen, try to let them veg into the screen and start flowering? I've never used a screen, so I'm not sure how/when to begin approaching it. Any tips? I know I want to let the tops grow up into the screen, and tuck it under and away from the center to utilize my space. But I don't know if most people do that before or after the flower stretch? Both? After 2-3 weeks just let them grow out of the screen?

This should be fun! The ladies are smelling pretty diesel. Like a jungle plant, musky dankness.

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Start with topping and and LST. You want a bunch of branching before you put the screen on. Check out my pic album for a screen example... https://picasaweb.google.com/110253852692039295916/BlueMisticWaterfarmSideProject?authkey=Gv1sRgCLTa4pOEqfbHxwE

Yeah, LST is important. I start training before it goes under the screen (probably now for you) in veg, and I would place the screen over just before flowering...

You'll see which are most dominant and such, tie those down so that the auxins travel to the smaller/lower shoots. I'd say once you have an even canopy, maybe just under the screen, (considering the stretch) you should flip... when they start stretching just tie them down so that the big ones stay at the height you want, and the others should should catch up....

One thing I did with my HB when it was under the scrog was when a lot of the branches got to a point where I wanted them, and there a few that were straggling behind, I just tied down EVERY single cola that I didn't want to grow any more and the other few (maybe like 3-4) shot up like crazy and when the stretch was over they were all around the same height... hope that made sense, haha...

I revived my old journal so that I could keep track of what I'm doing, I need to build another screen cause the plant I have now was a huge bush before I flowered her and now it's all disorganized, colas everywhere toppled over and shit... hah.. Screens really do help a lot...

Sr. Verde said:

Welcome

For the next few months, we are going to be growing two headbands by Reserva Privada... We will start them in Fox Farms Light Warrior as seeds, veg under 100w of 6500k florescent bulbs until they are 6 inches.. Then they're going in 11 liter pots with Fox Farms Ocean Forest... then flowering under a 250w Hortilux HPS...


I plan on using a screen for SCROG, we will see how it all goes.

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Hey old friend !!!! Logging on and entire site been keeping me off,

I am subbed!!!!!! My new grow is about 6-8 weeks ahead of yours.

gers

Someguy15 said:

Start with topping and and LST. You want a bunch of branching before you put the screen on. Check out my pic album for a screen example... https://picasaweb.google.com/110253852692039295916/BlueMisticWaterfarmSideProject?authkey=Gv1sRgCLTa4pOEqfbHxwE

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Yeah I will be slowly training them.... I'm not topping as per recommendation.. I hear the RP headband produces a lot of tops as it is.... and that topping pretty much detriments the growth (for this strain, usually I'm a fan of topping)

upthearsenal said:

Yeah, LST is important. I start training before it goes under the screen (probably now for you) in veg, and I would place the screen over just before flowering...

You'll see which are most dominant and such, tie those down so that the auxins travel to the smaller/lower shoots. I'd say once you have an even canopy, maybe just under the screen, (considering the stretch) you should flip... when they start stretching just tie them down so that the big ones stay at the height you want, and the others should should catch up....

One thing I did with my HB when it was under the scrog was when a lot of the branches got to a point where I wanted them, and there a few that were straggling behind, I just tied down EVERY single cola that I didn't want to grow any more and the other few (maybe like 3-4) shot up like crazy and when the stretch was over they were all around the same height... hope that made sense, haha...

I revived my old journal so that I could keep track of what I'm doing, I need to build another screen cause the plant I have now was a huge bush before I flowered her and now it's all disorganized, colas everywhere toppled over and shit... hah.. Screens really do help a lot...

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Thanks for the tips! I am familiar with the growth auxins and hormones..and their relation to where and how a plant grows...... just wasn't 100% clear on utilizing the screen! Ill take your tips.... Start weaving it in the screen ASAP in veg... and will flower when the screen is somewhat full.... then will keep weaving tops for the first 2 weeks....

thegersman said:

Hey old friend !!!! Logging on and entire site been keeping me off,

I am subbed!!!!!! My new grow is about 6-8 weeks ahead of yours.

gers

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Good luck on yours gersman! Last run looked really nice!


It's nice coming back here with a journal, and reuniting with all you folks... It's cool that we are always running different setups, strains, and comparing notes on everything! Good keeping in touch




I should be keeping track of my vegging plants more honestly.... I just haven't had the time! They will be HUGE by the time I see them again I'm sure.

I wouldn't weave per-say, once a branch gets long, I'd pull it out from underneath and move it to another spot farther down, so that it's now shorter, and more of the branch and it's nodes are underneath the screen, horizontally. Again, hopefully that made sense

You'll figure it out though once you get the screen going it's much easier once you're in the actual process...

upthearsenal said:

I wouldn't weave per-say, once a branch gets long, I'd pull it out from underneath and move it to another spot farther down, so that it's now shorter, and more of the branch and it's nodes are underneath the screen, horizontally. Again, hopefully that made sense

You'll figure it out though once you get the screen going it's much easier once you're in the actual process...

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For sure.... I didn't mean I'd be knitting or anything, obviously branches wouldn't like that ... just forcing a branch to be smaller without effecting the flower sites! . i wouldn't be weaving it in and out, just tucking it down once or twice onto a different part of the screen.

SCROG is an art though... that is learned from experience. ... this I understand! Should be fun!

LOL yeah, I've seen people try and weave and they end up with problems hah... Scroging is fun though, you'll love they way your ladies look when there's a nice even canopy of colas

upthearsenal said:

LOL yeah, I've seen people try and weave and they end up with problems hah... Scroging is fun though, you'll love they way your ladies look when there's a nice even canopy of colas

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You saw my last tent .... donky dicks falling out the front of the tent when you opened it.... I want that screen to keep them in place

I'm very ready :loL:

we all waiting

Me too! I'm waiting til monday... You guys will have pics tuesday

Reading over this tent got my heart racing... Im about to buy a GL60 also. I have one question not mean to jack your thread but i have a 400W HPS do you think I could cool it in there? PS SUBBEDDD!!!

Ge7Som3 said:

Reading over this tent got my heart racing... Im about to buy a GL60 also. I have one question not mean to jack your thread but i have a 400W HPS do you think I could cool it in there?

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No worries man! I'm all about spreading information. Just so others know, *the below is not grow notes*... just notes on grow tents, and my experiences in general....



but.....HMMMM..... it really depends... With my environment I don't think I could fit a 400w in my tent while keeping it cool. The only way I could possibly do that is with a 6 inch inline fan, hooked up to a cool tube with the 400w inside it.... and the smallest cool tube I could find was like 26 inches without any ducting attached... which very much exceeds the space in a gl60...

I think a 2.5ftx2.5ft tent would be the minimal for an 400w efficient grow... if you wanted to go 600w you could probably do 3x3ft with a high CFM 6 inch fan...



My advice... Is start with ventilation, and inline fans - then move on from there to figure out how much light you can have....

I started my tent journey wondering how big of a hood I could fit in a GL60.... I should have thought about how much I could cool it... Then I should have thought about what light would run the coolest/brightest under that ventilation...

250w is perfect for the gl60 with some supplemental lighting, you can keep the light somewhat low, intense, and cool... I can add about 50w-100w of floroescent light in addition to a 250wHPS and keep things cool.... but again 400w you would be battling temperatures, and keeping that light super high so your flowers dont get cooked...

I would honestly get the next size up for 400w..... if you can afford the space, it is worth it totally.

Sr. Verde said:

No worries man! I'm all about spreading information. Just so others know, *the below is not grow notes*... just notes on grow tents, and my experiences in general....



but.....HMMMM..... it really depends... With my environment I don't think I could fit a 400w in my tent while keeping it cool. The only way I could possibly do that is with a 6 inch inline fan, hooked up to a cool tube with the 400w inside it.... and the smallest cool tube I could find was like 26 inches without any ducting attached... which very much exceeds the space in a gl60...

I think a 2.5ftx2.5ft tent would be the minimal for an 400w efficient grow... if you wanted to go 600w you could probably do 3x3ft with a high CFM 6 inch fan...



My advice... Is start with ventilation, and inline fans - then move on from there to figure out how much light you can have....

I started my tent journey wondering how big of a hood I could fit in a GL60.... I should have thought about how much I could cool it... Then I should have thought about what light would run the coolest/brightest under that ventilation...

250w is perfect for the gl60 with some supplemental lighting, you can keep the light somewhat low, intense, and cool... I can add about 50w-100w of floroescent light in addition to a 250wHPS and keep things cool.... but again 400w you would be battling temperatures, and keeping that light super high so your flowers dont get cooked...

I would honestly get the next size up for 400w..... if you can afford the space, it is worth it totally.

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I concur the 250 is as big as you want to go in the GL60.

Sr. Verde said:

No worries man! I'm all about spreading information. Just so others know, *the below is not grow notes*... just notes on grow tents, and my experiences in general....



but.....HMMMM..... it really depends... With my environment I don't think I could fit a 400w in my tent while keeping it cool. The only way I could possibly do that is with a 6 inch inline fan, hooked up to a cool tube with the 400w inside it.... and the smallest cool tube I could find was like 26 inches without any ducting attached... which very much exceeds the space in a gl60...

I think a 2.5ftx2.5ft tent would be the minimal for an 400w efficient grow... if you wanted to go 600w you could probably do 3x3ft with a high CFM 6 inch fan...



My advice... Is start with ventilation, and inline fans - then move on from there to figure out how much light you can have....

I started my tent journey wondering how big of a hood I could fit in a GL60.... I should have thought about how much I could cool it... Then I should have thought about what light would run the coolest/brightest under that ventilation...

250w is perfect for the gl60 with some supplemental lighting, you can keep the light somewhat low, intense, and cool... I can add about 50w-100w of floroescent light in addition to a 250wHPS and keep things cool.... but again 400w you would be battling temperatures, and keeping that light super high so your flowers dont get cooked...

I would honestly get the next size up for 400w..... if you can afford the space, it is worth it totally.

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size is a big problem for me.. I already have the 400w..
And yeah I was looking at cool tubes there all just too big... I really hope I can find a solution to this without haveling to sell my lightthanks for your input it really helps I'm subbed love to see how this goes. If you think of anything let me know lol I have a ac I could hook a duct to? And I am thing about making co2

Edit: so kind of a noob question im pretty sure i can but would like some experienced opinions anyywayss i can just buy a 250W Bulb right?
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Ge7Som3 said:

size is a big problem for me.. I already have the 400w..
And yeah I was looking at cool tubes there all just too big... I really hope I can find a solution to this without haveling to sell my lightthanks for your input it really helps I'm subbed love to see how this goes. If you think of anything let me know lol I have a ac I could hook a duct to? And I am thing about making co2

Edit: so kind of a noob question im pretty sure i can but would like some experienced opinions anyywayss i can just buy a 250W Bulb right?
.

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If you have a digital ballast, then it's likely you can dim it from 400w to 250... I did this in the summer for heat reasons; I have a lumatek 400w.

Its not dimable. just a digital ballast its a off brand im sure.. got it off amazon

But thanks for the help i dont wanna jack your Beautiful Thread u got going here so if u care to help out come stop by (https://www.rollitup.org/stealth-micro-cab-growing/494002-growlab-60-a.html) Thanks again Verde!

You need the proper ballast.... then the hood doesn't matter... like upthearsenal said...



Just trust me lol it gets really warm with just a 250w in the gl60... i dont think it would be worth the money to run AC or Co2 to battle temps off a 400w in a gl60...

like i said updates tuesday

but i thought , other than raising the temp threshold of the plants Co2 helps with other stuff too. well when flowering