16000+ watts medigrow: og kush+ 13 x 1kw hps + 3 x t5 badboys + grotek = *HAPPY JOY*

Gastanker

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oo, oo, what program did you use to do that drawring? love it!
Great journal. Love the nerdiness - we probably would get along :)

If you didn't find it in my journal, the lighting program I use is called DIALux, from what I gather an industry standard. It's totally free and many large lamp manufacturers provide free database info on their products for it. Tons of fun if you have the time - will print up light charts with projected lux based on lamp, reflectivity of surfaces, shadows... Here's a link to the site if at all interested - http://www.dial.de/CMS/English/Articles/DIALux/Download/Download_d_e_fr_it_es_cn.html#
 

collective gardener

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Wolverine knows better than to eat me. I've led a long and hard life. I doubt I would taste too good. Lots of sun baked skin and sinew. Probably salty too from all the time at sea. Yuck.

Kitty, your thread is absolutely smoking right now. I just read 3 pages of pure fire...and no negativity. Great job keeping everything on track, as well.

I see the baverb topic is up again. It seems quite popular in BC, but not too much in Cali. Baverb requires more floor space per watt used than standard lighting. I wonder if that's why it has failed to take off here. Cali space is always at a premium. I have noticed better results from my one Adjustawing reflector in bloom. I believe this is because there is no glass between the bulb and plant. Just another reason for Baverb. But, a Baverb grow really needs to be designed for that from the start. I tried ten different ways of setting up my current bloom room Baverb, and every one drastically reduces the amount of plant canopy in my bloom space. I have a new strain we call the D Bub, that grows perfect for Baverb. It's a nice christmas tree look, not too dense, but with great node spacing. I'll post a pic here tonight. It would seem there are plants that would do better in overhead, and others better Baverb. But, for keeping the plants big and the plant count small, nothing really beats it, eh?
 

mellokitty

Moderatrix of Journals
i didn't realise it was a lighting-specs program -- EVEN BETTER!! mr kitty's going to just shit himself. this revolutionises grow room design/logistics. fuck, i'm so excited i could MOLT.

for every one who's ever asked me for an illustrated setup diagram, ^this^ just made that dream one step closer to reality....
 

mellokitty

Moderatrix of Journals
Wolverine knows better than to eat me. I've led a long and hard life. I doubt I would taste too good. Lots of sun baked skin and sinew. Probably salty too from all the time at sea. Yuck.

Kitty, your thread is absolutely smoking right now. I just read 3 pages of pure fire...and no negativity. Great job keeping everything on track, as well.

I see the baverb topic is up again. It seems quite popular in BC, but not too much in Cali. Baverb requires more floor space per watt used than standard lighting. I wonder if that's why it has failed to take off here. Cali space is always at a premium. I have noticed better results from my one Adjustawing reflector in bloom. I believe this is because there is no glass between the bulb and plant. Just another reason for Baverb. But, a Baverb grow really needs to be designed for that from the start. I tried ten different ways of setting up my current bloom room Baverb, and every one drastically reduces the amount of plant canopy in my bloom space. I have a new strain we call the D Bub, that grows perfect for Baverb. It's a nice christmas tree look, not too dense, but with great node spacing. I'll post a pic here tonight. It would seem there are plants that would do better in overhead, and others better Baverb. But, for keeping the plants big and the plant count small, nothing really beats it, eh?
yes, well, i'm sure all the cannibals would rather hit up a sweet sixteen party but there IS something to be said for a nice, salt-cured prosciutto.... *nibbling cg remnants*

and as far as the no negativity, i borrowed pages out of YOUR journal. (i see it's your turn to host The Debate ;))

my understanding is that there's a lot of sog/scrog around there (am i right)? i don't think baverb would be particularly effective for that (especially sog).
the space thing -- it's a trade-off too, isn't it? you lose the 2ft radius around each lamp, BUT, if you can manage to get your producing canopy 2ft taller across the whole room.... *nudge nudge*

it IS indeed not easy to "go baverb" from an already set up room; quite often it involves rethinking the whole vent system (especially if you're making the switch from cooltubes or enclosed hoods). i'm sure if you went from your 99 to our 35 it would start to look more attractive. ;)

(whatevs. your room obviously ain't broke. why fix it? :lol:)
 

Wolverine97

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Wolverine knows better than to eat me. I've led a long and hard life. I doubt I would taste too good. Lots of sun baked skin and sinew. Probably salty too from all the time at sea. Yuck.

Kitty, your thread is absolutely smoking right now. I just read 3 pages of pure fire...and no negativity. Great job keeping everything on track, as well.

I see the baverb topic is up again. It seems quite popular in BC, but not too much in Cali. Baverb requires more floor space per watt used than standard lighting. I wonder if that's why it has failed to take off here. Cali space is always at a premium. I have noticed better results from my one Adjustawing reflector in bloom. I believe this is because there is no glass between the bulb and plant. Just another reason for Baverb. But, a Baverb grow really needs to be designed for that from the start. I tried ten different ways of setting up my current bloom room Baverb, and every one drastically reduces the amount of plant canopy in my bloom space. I have a new strain we call the D Bub, that grows perfect for Baverb. It's a nice christmas tree look, not too dense, but with great node spacing. I'll post a pic here tonight. It would seem there are plants that would do better in overhead, and others better Baverb. But, for keeping the plants big and the plant count small, nothing really beats it, eh?
I saawaay. Wolverine didn't even notice that you were hubby#2, I epologize for any inconvenience.

*burb*

In all seriousness, I've considered going baverb but I don't think it really suits my area. And I'm not to keen on constantly burning my face, as would surely happen.
 

Beansly

RIU Bulldog
I've noticed since I went cert that my buds seem more dense and there is less popcorn buds.
Problem is I'm planing to do a SOG grow next cycle so I have to switch back to horizintal growing :(
 

collective gardener

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Yes, Kitty, the room really should be settup for Baverb from the start. So much of my venting depends on the air moved through the lights that cool tubes would be a must. I see what u mean by more vertical growth offsetting loss of floor space. I hate to throw another dog into the fight, but I've been looking seriously at some insane vertical grows. Basically, vertical SOG. THAT seems to be the end all be all for yield per light. BUT, it would be a massive plant count.

Yes, SOG and SCROG is alive and well here. The most popular on the commercial front is what I call a "modified SOG". Basically, a sea of 36" plants at a density of about 2 sq ft per plant. I used to gro 4 plants per sq ft and had amazing results. Take out the plant count factor, and that's what I would do today. Remove most of the lateral branching and finish the plants about 24" tall. There's just nothing like that sea of donkey dicks. To do that now I would have a plant count of 1600+. It ain't gonna happen.

On another note...Damn I'm pissed at that guy.

Happy thoughts.
 

mellokitty

Moderatrix of Journals
i HATE vert sog. back when the "cage" and "coliseum" systems were still new, i did a diy "cage".... hated it, failed miserably at it, omg omg, but that's just my own experience. i'm sure if i'd had the patience to get it dialled in it would have been glorious. but i hadn't grown into my claws yet.

**sshh** you said "donkeydick"..... it's only a matter of time before april comes a running....

i think we all need to go show cg some love. it's the least we can do.
 

Gastanker

Well-Known Member
i didn't realise it was a lighting-specs program -- EVEN BETTER!! mr kitty's going to just shit himself. this revolutionises grow room design/logistics. fuck, i'm so excited i could MOLT.

for every one who's ever asked me for an illustrated setup diagram, ^this^ just made that dream one step closer to reality....
It's great - you can literally map everything out. My tent:






Buddies grow - was thinking that a slight angle on the lights would benefit with wall reflectivity, DIALux is a great way to see:



I highly recommend it if you are a nerd and like to grow. Lemme know if you want these images removed.
 

Tran Dinh

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Yes, SOG and SCROG is alive and well here. The most popular on the commercial front is what I call a "modified SOG". Basically, a sea of 36" plants at a density of about 2 sq ft per plant. I used to gro 4 plants per sq ft and had amazing results. Take out the plant count factor, and that's what I would do today. Remove most of the lateral branching and finish the plants about 24" tall. There's just nothing like that sea of donkey dicks. To do that now I would have a plant count of 1600+. It ain't gonna happen.

On another note...Damn I'm pissed at that guy.

Happy thoughts.
much more pleasurable to trim ime
 

collective gardener

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Wow. We've come a long ways. That software looks really nice. When I retire from growing and start the Grow Op Design/Build Company, that would be a must for presentations. I also have seen some really cool growroom management software. I still use a bunch of dry erase boards and a dry erase 3 month calender. I would like to move all info onto a spreadsheet. Would that take the fun out of it?
 

Wolverine97

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It's great - you can literally map everything out. My tent:






Buddies grow - was thinking that a slight angle on the lights would benefit with wall reflectivity, DIALux is a great way to see:



I highly recommend it if you are a nerd and like to grow. Lemme know if you want these images removed.
Damn, man. I'm a frickin pro in Autocad, but I've been dinking around with this software all morning, and I'm beginning to wonder if I'll ever figure it out. Awesome tool, I just have to figure out how to use it...
 

smokeymcpotz

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Damn i love this thread but i never have anything to say lol... Like a new kid in class.
Kitty you grow straight dank glad to see someone else doin it big with soil. Come check out the connoisseurs choice thread when your free... We grow dank in there too!
 
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