My first grow, dual 400w (HPS/MH) +150w HPS, bagseed, under stairs.

rasputin71

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My first grow setup. No clue what I am doing yet so just growing some mystery bagseeds. I have about 10 good seeds that I got from some locally grown medicinal weed that I hope to germinate once I get more room in my veg area. After that I know of a couple local growers where I can get clones from. :-P

Spent ~$1.2k+ at the grow store so far, and about $300+ at the hardware (50% parts, 50% tools I needed)

ProMix soil and General Organics Nutes
Flower Room is 12/12
Veg room is 18/6
Exhaust Fan is 19/5
Circulation Fans run 20/4

Flower Room:
  • 34" x 40" x 6'
  • 6" Lumenaire Reflector
  • 400w Hortilux HPS Lamp
  • 9" Hi-Velocity Fan
  • 4" Fresh Air Intake
  • Plan to upgrade to 600w HPS Ballast/Lamp in 3 - 4 weeks

Veg Room:
  • 40" x 48"+ x ~24" tall (under stairs)
  • 6" Lumenaire Reflector
  • 400w MH Lamp
  • 150w Min-Sun HPS Ballast/Lamp (to help cover larger area)
  • 4" Fresh Air Intake
  • 2 x 400w Switchable Ballasts (upgrading one to 600w HPS soon)
  • 6" Exhaust Fan 435 CFM (WYE to each hood)
  • 9" Hi-Velocity Fan
  • Surge Strips, Timers, etc


Recent pics:

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The 2 plants in the flower room were sprouted outside, in dirt, sometime in early to mid August, IIRC. I bought my first light in early September and soon tried some more mystery seeds in Pro-Mix. I started using the taller room with a single 400w MH and no exhaust.


I got the majority of the exhaust run on the 12th.

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I finished the flower room about 3 days ago and they got a day of 15/9. I topped them both approximately a week before I moved them into the flower room, maybe less.

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The next day (14th) I transplanted the other small ones to 7qt buckets. The ones in the veg room are 3 - 4 weeks old and mystery seeds as well. A couple started growing really tall with long spacing in between nodes and appeared to sativas. I topped them too soon, after their set of 3 fan leaves, instead of waiting for the 5 fan leafs to show. :sad:

I transplanted then from their squares to the 7 quart buckets a few days ago.

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Here is the flower room from that day.

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Here they are yesterday after their first 12 hour night.

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The square with 2 small ones are actually good seeds that I drowned while trying to sprout in dirt. I think they are from good strains, but they have been thru a lot. One of them, after finally struggling for survival, had the seed stuck to it and I waited too long to remove it. :dunce:

Here they are this morning. The other one is looking pretty good though, thankfully.

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Some of the others in my veg room aren't looking so great, and some I topped too early, but it's all schwag seed so I am not worried too much. I am hoping some of them recover from the transplant once they start getting nutes again. Once they do I will move the best looking ones to the flower room, probably in 3 - 4 weeks, and upgrade it to 600w HPS. Once I make more room in the veg room I will probably turn off the 150w HPS, move the 400w MH over a bit, and try to grow those good seeds I have.



This one is leaning a bit funny but seems to be coming back from the tranplant so I am going to wait a bit, top it, and maybe LST it as it s already leaning.

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This is my mutant plant that apparently decided to top itself. :-P

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The rest all look sorta meh.


Here is the flower room this morning after 2 nites of 12/12, and having their morning water. These ones are in 10qt buckets.

This one got a FIM by accident and I ended up with 3 tops.

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This one did not get a FIM.

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Here are a couple more pics from the flower room this afternoon. They are both only about 10" above the dirt right now but I had taken a pretty good piece off the top of them. I was just in a hurry to get the schwag in the flower room so I can try and grow some better seeds or get some clones.

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And a couple hours ago I moved most of the veg room plants into the flower room for a little bit. I had to add in one new surge strip and rearrange a few plugs to add in the 2 newest timers for the extended exhaust/circulation fan times. The electrical/timer work is a tad bit ghetto, but it is all 3 prong surge strips, etc.


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rasputin71

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I lost interest in updating this and didnt have much time. I now have a bit more time on my hands, am in the process of harvesting the first females, and trying to start a perpetual garden.

10/21

By this point one of the first 2 plants had shown to be a male. I had seen some 12/12 from seed threads and decided to just start flowering my other bagseed so I could try to get some better genetics going. I moved 4 more into flower on the 18th and the other 2 on the 21st, for a total of 7 (runts) in flower.

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rasputin71

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The one sativa dominant plant that had been topped above the first node was getting much taller than the rest of my canopy...

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..... so I decided on some HST (hi-stress training). :twisted:

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rasputin71

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Here it is the next morning...

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This later proves to be too stressful and the stalks start splitting so I remove the metal wire. I try string for a while after that, but eventually just let it loose.
 

rasputin71

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A week later and there are 2 more would-be males in the flower room today. They are in the center and bottom right of this pic.

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rasputin71

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Anna, the oldest one in the 5 gal pail has been thru hell as my first grow, and decided to turn purple as well.

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rasputin71

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Added some more circulation. I wanted to get some clip on fans and install a couple of shower rods vertically, but the hydro store was all out of clip on fans.

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rasputin71

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My first harvest. I had already sampled one bottom bud and one main cola (the one with the most receded hairs). I dont have scales yet so not sure on yield, but I would guess 15 - 20 grams.

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The buds are actually quite dense now, after being dryed and cured for a weekish. The room where I dried it was about 60f/20rh so they got crispy quick and required a lot of extended burping the first few days. I think I need a humidifier to help slow the drying process or I might try using paperbags after a few days of hang drying, as an intermediate step before going to glass jars.

Here is a bud of it now.

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rasputin71

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Hope for the future.

I have been waiting on some seeds from attitude so started more bagseed sprouts. I finally got confirmation the seeds were almost here, and I went to pick up 10 Chronic Haze clones from another RIU member.

This was the garden on 12/16, notice all the schwag in the veg room. Later today I end up culling 6 of those babies in the veg room to make room for the 10 CrH clones I will be getting.

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Here it is on 12/17 in the morning, in anticipation of the clones.

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Here are the new babies, after moving in. I put 3 right in to 2ga smart pots today, and the rest into 5x5 pots for now.

The other 2 plants in the 7qt pots (and seedlings in the heated tray) are non-fem Afghans from a recent good bag of home grown. I am not sure what to do with them now that I have all these clones. I think I will need to just rip them out so I can deal with females only (finally) and stay legit.

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rasputin71

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I moved the 2 non-fem afghans to the flower room yesterday, much sooner/smaller than I had wanted to, to make more room for the clones in veg. I am so sick of vegging males, I just want to be on my way to clones or fem's only. Today I transplanted 2 more of the clones to 2ga pots and put the remaining 4 clones in small pots on the heated tray with my 4 other non-fem afghan seedlings.

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I gave the other 3 girls a long overdue flushing, but only grabbed pics of 2 of the 3 girls it seems.

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And here is the 2 headed mutant Donna, getting cut up.

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rasputin71

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Here we are this morning after I top-dressed the seedlings and clones in 5x5 pots. I think I am going to put the 4 Afghan seedlings and one of these clones into party cups for the new party cup grow contest thread. I wasnt sure what to do with these seedlings and that will help speed up identifying the female Afghans as well as get one of the CrH clones into flower asap.

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Day 63 for Beth:

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Day 63 for Cassie:

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Day 60 for Elaine (the nest to be chopped):

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I will probably just start using photobucket now that I am caught up, so I can post full size pics easily.
 

rasputin71

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I gave all the Chronic Haze clones their first dose of nutes today. 50% the week 1 ratios. The ones in the smaller pots, that have been on the heating pad, seem to be showing the most new growth. I decided to put a couple of the 2ga smart pots on the heating pad instead, along with the party cup transplants.

I had been thinking how nice a heated floor would be, but it isn't very practical. Perhaps I can build some type of raised sub-floor to help insulate the smart pots from the concrete floor.

The first transplant down from the 5x5 to party cups was a bit more destructive to the roots than I had hoped. The other 3 transplants went a bit better, but I didnt get one of the babies as deep as I had hoped. I briefly considered putting them right into the flower box today, but decided I will give them 6 or 7 days of veg to get over the transplant shock. I will try to keep them on the heating pad for now to help the roots.

I watered them in with plain water until I got runoff, and then gave them a small dose of the 50% veg nutes the CrH had been given. :twisted:

I am fairly sure the packaging for my party cups said 16oz, but apparently they are 18oz, so I guess I am cheating for the PCC. :roll:

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HotPhyre

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Dude lookin good, and i love the excitement and a lot of pics and updates.

Im surprised not to many are subbed, well im here for the shoe cant wait to see more buds
 

rasputin71

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great op u got going on...
i dont see the clone station..?
I got a DIY cloner bucket, but I havent had any definite females to try cloning yet. I am still not sure how easy it will be to clone, veg, flower, and keep my plant number below the allotted 12. I am tempted to just buy more clones when my veg box gets low and/or use some of these fem seeds I bought.

Dude lookin good, and i love the excitement and a lot of pics and updates.

Im surprised not to many are subbed, well im here for the shoe cant wait to see more buds
Well, I let the journal sit for about 2 months as I was too busy to update often. Plus, who cares about some newb bagseed grow.!!

I am pretty stoked now to try and start a perpetual system with a good strain. I got $70 worth of attitude seeds in the mail last week but I dont have room to germ or veg because of all these clones. :D

Oh, and just moved another girl into the dark room, so I can chop and hang her tomorrow. :hump:
 

HotPhyre

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I got a DIY cloner bucket, but I havent had any definite females to try cloning yet. I am still not sure how easy it will be to clone, veg, flower, and keep my plant number below the allotted 12. I am tempted to just buy more clones when my veg box gets low and/or use some of these fem seeds I bought.



Well, I let the journal sit for about 2 months as I was too busy to update often. Plus, who cares about some newb bagseed grow.!!

I am pretty stoked now to try and start a perpetual system with a good strain. I got $70 worth of attitude seeds in the mail last week but I dont have room to germ or veg because of all these clones. :D

Oh, and just moved another girl into the dark room, so I can chop and hang her tomorrow. :hump:
Nice dude well ill watch this bag seed play out and those attitude seeds, i just bought some myself but i ususally use clones.

I stay away from bag seed just do to a hermi from my last grow, but thats me so any ideas on the strain of thsi bag seed ur choppin.
 

rasputin71

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Nice dude well ill watch this bag seed play out and those attitude seeds, i just bought some myself but i ususally use clones.

I stay away from bag seed just do to a hermi from my last grow, but thats me so any ideas on the strain of thsi bag seed ur choppin.
Nope, no clue. I used to keep seeds from decent mids and any good quality bags. Out of the first 8 I sprouted I got 5 females that are all completely different pheno's. I had a few other good indica seeds but got 100% males out of the 3 or 4 seeds I tried.

The 4 I moved to the party cups are Afghans that a friend bought and grew a seed crop with. I just put them into flower today and once they show sex I am just going to move the females to #1 smart pots since my 18oz containers dont count for the PCC.

I think I am going to germ one of my freebie kannabia seeds for the PCC and find a good 16oz container instead of those 18oz ones I got.

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