Bubblelicious, New York Power Diesel, and Super Skunk in DWC

Well after watching Rbaha's 104 plant SOG you would be crazy to not try the 144 at least once!

all caught up bob... k, k, i skipped just a couple pages...

i'd like to somehow work a propane gen into a non-cooled setup (my own) at some point... guess you can kind of alternate the co2 w/ventilation to that effect, but we'll see.

as far as numbers go... you'll have to run ur own experiments i'm sure, as i did... had over 200 plants in flower at one point, dropped back to 48 and the next run i'll only have 24. SeeMoreBuds ran up to like 300 plants per 4x4... over a 100 of them died... he'd say it was worth it. But imo, it's not. Especially when you consider the legality of running over 99 plants ... or 48 in flower and 48 in clone.

I'm also a Lucas man. i run 1 part Micro to 2 part Bloom in flower (G.H.) and 2 parts Micro to 3 parts Bloom in veg.

You ever think of growing outside the box (tent)? Throw up a partition and bang out a couple more 600's... or like 4, as you were saying... Fug a tent, brotha

Will stay tuned,

-DaGambler
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DaGambler said:

all caught up bob... k, k, i skipped just a couple pages...

i'd like to somehow work a propane gen into a non-cooled setup (my own) at some point... guess you can kind of alternate the co2 w/ventilation to that effect, but we'll see.

as far as numbers go... you'll have to run ur own experiments i'm sure, as i did... had over 200 plants in flower at one point, dropped back to 48 and the next run i'll only have 24. SeeMoreBuds ran up to like 300 plants per 4x4... over a 100 of them died... he'd say it was worth it. But imo, it's not. Especially when you consider the legality of running over 99 plants ... or 48 in flower and 48 in clone.

I'm also a Lucas man. i run 1 part Micro to 2 part Bloom in flower (G.H.) and 2 parts Micro to 3 parts Bloom in veg.

You ever think of growing outside the box (tent)? Throw up a partition and bang out a couple more 600's... or like 4, as you were saying... Fug a tent, brotha

Will stay tuned,

-DaGambler
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Happy to have you, my friend - I might need you to produce my next video and make it a little flashier My thick New..............er, LA accent doesn't really make people wanna get up and dance.

Anywho, I fully concur with you (and others), and decided last night that 64 was the way to go - going to try and do 64 of the bubblelicous, but if I can't get enough clones soon enough, gonna do 32 BL and 32 SS.

And as far as expansion goes, my plan is an 8x8 tent (the DR240) with four 600s over four 3x3 tables.

That would push out some weight.

Also, how come you use Flora and not nova? Just because you run different mixtures for veg and flower? I just use floranova bloom from seed to harvest, although I get more and more samples each time I go to the hydro store, and plan to give them a try at some point.

Happy with the flowering tent progress, and also pleased that I'm now set on doing 64 for my next run

Now just need to figure out some timing - started flowering on 12.1, so figure 9 weeks should be plenty (especially with CO2, which cuts some time off), which will be January 31st.

For minimal downtime, I need to get 72 clones cut ASAP - figure I'll need to veg the clones for ~10 days (to get to ~8" tall before flowering), so that means that I'd need to cut the clones in about a week.

That could be a problem

Oh well, need to decide if it's worth it to wait an extra week or two to only run SS and BL or if I can throw some other strains in there as well.

Anyways, enough jibber jabber, here's some pics - just attached them at the bottom without captions (they're pretty self-explanatory); if anyone has a question about any of them, just lemme know.

They're coming along nicely Bob. Buds are frosting up and thats my favorite part of early flower. Good luck with the clones, and did you ever get the generator problem figured out?

Integra21 said:

They're coming along nicely Bob. Buds are frosting up and thats my favorite part of early flower. Good luck with the clones, and did you ever get the generator problem figured out?

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Unfortunately no, haven't really been messing with it too much - seems like the tanks are lasting longer then I'd remembered (like closer to 10-14 days per), so it hasn't been at the top of my priority list.

Need to figure out what direction the garage is going in (staying with a 4x4 for the foreseeable future, or upgrading and really rocking it out) before I know if that needs to be addressed.

If the 4x4, probably just stay with tanks, and if doing 8x8, probably get a plumber to run the natural gas line into the generator, which will make the quick usage someone of a moot point (waste is still not good, but natural gas is fairly inexpensive).

That being said, there's still a leak (or something) somewhere - even burning 15cuft/hr, it still should've been able to run like 200 hours, which is running constantly for two weeks (during lights on).

I know that it didn't run constantly (more like once every five-ish minutes), so it should've lasted me about 2.5 months - again, obviously an issue there.



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Integra, you mean this? I got it working, but it burned through the propane WAY faster then it should've, according to the numbers..........

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one though is maybe the delivery system. If you have a fan hooked to ducting and then hooked to the generator it would have been possibly sucking mass amounts of air in through the generator and mixing it with your co2 causing the co2 to spike and then deminish quickly turning back on the generator. In a sealed room, it should only kick on for a minute or so 1-2 time an hour. My buddies room is bigger than your tent and hit is only on for about 60sec every hour. If you can get the generator in the tent, You will probly have much better results.

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Also, how come you use Flora and not nova? Just because you run different mixtures for veg and flower? I just use floranova bloom from seed to harvest, although I get more and more samples each time I go to the hydro store, and plan to give them a try at some point.

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i've actually got a 5 gal. jug of that Nova stuff... but its all goopy and stuff... seems like its meant for a soil grow with plenty of bioligicals to make the nutes bio-available. I had problems using it in a perlite setup, seemed like the plants were having a hard time using it - so i went back with straight chemical nutes that are readily available to the plant. Being a cheap bastard, i'll prolly try to get some more use out of that jug at some point though. Do you add biologicals so that they can use it in the hydrotron ?
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Yeah it's like mud LOL! Really thick and expensive mud! I simply added it to the reservior. It took almost 24 hrs before it mixed completely and fully registered on the tds meter. 200ml of mud added 900ppm to my 40 gallon reservior (after 24hrs).

DaGambler said:

i've actually got a 5 gal. jug of that Nova stuff... but its all goopy and stuff... seems like its meant for a soil grow with plenty of bioligicals to make the nutes bio-available. I had problems using it in a perlite setup, seemed like the plants were having a hard time using it - so i went back with straight chemical nutes that are readily available to the plant. Being a cheap bastard, i'll prolly try to get some more use out of that jug at some point though. Do you add biologicals so that they can use it in the hydrotron ?
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Negative; by biologicals I assume you're referring to some organics of some kind? Because as far as I know (and I'm pretty damn sure), FNB is as "chemmy" as they come - nothing alive in it, at all.

And I don't add anything; just 8mL/gallon of R/O water.

Try to keep my PPMs between 900-1100 (@.5 conversion), and pH from 5.6 - 5.8.

Even though the plants directly under the light have serious light bleaching, and the one or two that have had their fan leaves get caught in the oscillating fan wall have some fan leaf damage, the majority of the plants have lush green foliage, and I haven't had to add nutes in about two weeks (jumped up to ~1700PPMs on me a couple of weeks ago because I added too much in, so have just been adding water since then).

Most people would say that the reservoir needs to be changed because they're not taking up the nutes in the proper ratios, etc., but I let the leaves and the plants tell me what's what - they look happy as hell (the ones that aren't being torched under the light, anyways).

EDIT: for those late to the party, I haven't changed the reservoir since the tent's inception, which was the first week of November. It's a 35 gallon reservoir.

smokingrubber said:

Yeah it's like mud LOL! Really thick and expensive mud! I simply added it to the reservior. It took almost 24 hrs before it mixed completely and fully registered on the tds meter. 200ml of mud added 900ppm to my 40 gallon reservior (after 24hrs).

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You need to shake it up really, really well - one of the first times I was doing it, I was really getting into it (for some weird reason), and was shaking the fuck outta that little bottle - of course, went too far and clocked myself right in the forehead with it - for those that don't know, a bottle is about the weight of a brick.

That fucking hurt.

looking good over here bob. Things are looking good. I love rapid rooters. They do stay a little moist, but they can be watered from the bottom unlike RW. with RW I have to spend twice as much time making sure they are moist enough and not to moist, because RW tends to bring out the extremes of both worlds. Looking good Bob. Love it

nice bob, so your flowering plants are in hydro? which kind if u dont mind, and i saw your pics you told me to check out, the plants in flower now are the ones u have "bobbipopped" right?? lol love that name

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nice bob, so your flowering plants are in hydro? which kind if u dont mind, and i saw your pics you told me to check out, the plants in flower now are the ones u have "bobbipopped" right?? lol love that name

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Yuppers, they're in hydroton in 2 gallon pots in a 4x4 E&F tray (35 gallon reservoir).

And the title of the thread tells you what they are

yea i meant what kind of hydro, bubbleponics, flood system, etc...

they do vary right?? still a hydro noob

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yea i meant what kind of hydro, bubbleponics, flood system, etc...

they do vary right?? still a hydro noob

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Ah, gotcha

"E&F" is short for "ebb and flow", which is another name for a flood system.

cool, glad ya got me there
gonna be fun to follow along!
peace

A couple of things before the pics:

1) Done using a R/O filter - the fucker just takes too long for me, and it seems like every time I use it I forget about it and almost flood the garage.

My tap water isn't that bad (150PPM, 7.5pH), so I'm just gonna use that and know that I'll be using more pH down (not a biggie).

Also lets me be much more flexible with my refilling and changing needs because now I'll have water on demand, as opposed to having to plan a day or two in advance.

2) For my next grow, I'm going to still run the Lucas formula, but change out my reservoir every two weeks - even though the plants that aren't light-bleached have healthy foliage for the most part, I've gotta believe that changing every two weeks is better for them then not - was just laziness on my part (in addition to having to use an RO filter), so that settles that.

3) Still haven't figured out what I'm doing with this next grow - 80% sure that I'm going with 64 as opposed to 144 (I'm fickle, I know), but I haven't figured out what combination yet.

Obviously homogeneous gardens are the most efficient, but I'm wondering if I should go that way with this one, or maybe run 16 of four different strains to see which yields best? Maybe 32 of two strains? 64 of one strain? Anyone's thoughts would be appreciated........really just can't wait for this grow to be done so I can get a "real" grow underway - three weeks until chopping.........

So that being said, here's some pics:

good shit bob. i think if you have the space you shouldgo with the 16 of each strain so you can eliminate the weaker of the 4. at the end of the day it all comes down to the yeild and quality right.. so bob do you mind if i ask you a question about my heating issue. i take your advise to heart.. you are a grow god in my eyes...lol.... i have read all your threads for advise on my own grow and cant find this one question in any of them...

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good shit bob. i think if you have the space you shouldgo with the 16 of each strain so you can eliminate the weaker of the 4. at the end of the day it all comes down to the yeild and quality right.. so bob do you mind if i ask you a question about my heating issue. i take your advise to heart.. you are a grow god in my eyes...lol.... i have read all your threads for advise on my own grow and cant find this one question in any of them...

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Thanks very much for the (undeserved) compliment, but what's your question?

EDIT: just noticed (from your sig) that we're both back to growing after a ten-year hiatus.............fairly ironic.

I'm still ironing some things out for this first grow, but I've got high hopes for this upcoming one.