How About An Unmoderated Forum?

Twistyman

Twistyman

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*peeks to see if safe* Man !..We need "some" oversight..I saw a post showing a bag of dead babies...Me I'd shut it down in a second, and warn the dude...It's like that court statement about porn.."I'll know it when I see it" It seems that a thread can get too personal or gross to quick and that for some their only defense is insult....The nothing implied, nothing inferred, approach to attacks leaves people with a sense of mystery..The best hit is always the backhand out of nowhere.. When direct it's the same old, same old.......IMO :)
 
Johnnyorganic

Johnnyorganic

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Expressing frustration at the state of the site and attacking the Mods are two different issues. Please don't misinterpret suggestions for improving the site as criticism.

I have nothing but respect for those charged with maintaining order around here. I understand the difficult position Mods find themselves in and sympathize. I recently made a suggestion that Mods were not doing their jobs. I was wrong to express my frustration with the forum by placing it squarely on the shoulders of the mods. I apologize for that indiscretion.

However, there is a very wide disparity in enforcement here. It has created a vacuum and nature abhors a vacuum.

I know I have earned a reputation around here for being an ass. Guilty as charged. When pressed, I can be a genuine prick. However, I give my adversaries the opportunity to avoid annihilation. Kind of a personal three strikes policy. However, when a line is crossed, I do not retreat. I counterattack right back over that line. A strategy which has opened me up to considerable heat from fellow members. I'm a big boy. Heat does not bother me.

Into the vacuum I mentioned I have stepped into the role of avenging angel. I do not attack indiscriminately. All worthy adversaries earn the targets I paint on their foreheads.

I would not feel this task fell upon me if the problem were addressed at the highest level of authority here.
 
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Seamaiden

Seamaiden

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I'm glad the thread hasn't been locked. :) Open, civil discussion is the honest, mature means by which to come to understanding. And I want to understand, it's why I've persistently asked the questions I ask.

As to the idea of an unmoderated forum, I will again suggest that, as with any other site I've utilized, when moderators are put in the position of policing speech, there is nothing but more work. I have a feeling that most folks don't report others who are being hateful or making personal attacks. I generally don't. Oh, there was that one time I reported that guy who put up all those RickRoll links, remember that? MAN did he piss me off! :lol:

I haven't seen what Twisty mentioned, but I'll suggest that instead of worrying about policing images, ask that people put a warning in the title that something may not be for the soft of stomach. Usually a simple request to let people know that something may be objectionable is respected, at least that's what I've found. Otherwise, again, the rest of us who make up the membership are left with the feeling that moderator action is completely arbitrary. My standards may be quite different (and often are) from yours. That's my own objection to the idea of the "I know it when I see it" thing. It is not quantified, and therefore becomes somewhat arbitrary when trying to place a value or quality without some concrete outlines.

Maybe that way the more active mods on the site can focus their attentions on the gardening issues people face, which I think may be more in line with the task at hand. Whaddaya think?
Either that, or rollitup, at the request and agreement of current moderators, can designate someone as a special moderator for specific forums. Again, a LOT of work considering the activity on this site. Also, I don't know if it's possible to do this with this particular BB software as it is with phpBB.

fdd, don't think for one minute that we don't understand that moderating takes work. At some sites it takes more work than others, to be sure.

Oh, and Johnny, I don't think you're an asshole (or whatever it was you called yourself). I find you to be an astute observer and a well-spoken, outspoken individual.
 
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fdd2blk

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i'm a little confused..................

what exactly would be in this "unmoderated forum" that isn't already here?
 
Seamaiden

Seamaiden

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No moderation. Sort of a free for all I suppose. (shrugs)

How you doing with all these fires? It's getting pretty smoky up here.
 
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fdd2blk

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Seamaiden said:
No moderation. Sort of a free for all I suppose. (shrugs)

How you doing with all these fires? It's getting pretty smoky up here.
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nothing here. we have it to the north, south and east though. planes flying over all day. they fill up with retardant at the airport here.
 
Seamaiden

Seamaiden

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I keep checking the news. The fires that are being reported on should be too far away for us to have such thick smoke. If I'm phobic about anything, it's fire, and being burned.
 
Seamaiden

Seamaiden

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No, I sure didn't. Our local paper is published twice a week, Wednesdays and Fridays. We truly live in PODUNKVILLE. :rolleyes: Thanks for that article. They must have actual journalists and stuff, huh? :lol:

Do you think all this smoke is from up there and going ALL the way across the valley to the Sierra? I keep going outside and checking for ash-fall.
 
bongspit

bongspit

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I think it needs to moderated to some point because there is always going to be someone who takes it way too far...and then you have the personal attacks, if they weren't monitered you would have people that would quit coming around...it would suck to have someone fucking with you every time time you loggeg in...
 
bongspit

bongspit

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Seamaiden said:
No, I sure didn't. Our local paper is published twice a week, Wednesdays and Fridays. We truly live in PODUNKVILLE. :rolleyes: Thanks for that article. They must have actual journalists and stuff, huh? :lol:

Do you think all this smoke is from up there and going ALL the way across the valley to the Sierra? I keep going outside and checking for ash-fall.
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are you still naked?
 
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fdd2blk

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bongspit said:
I think it needs to moderated to some point because there is always going to be someone who takes it way too far...and then you have the personal attacks, if they weren't monitered you would have people that would quit coming around...it would suck to have someone fucking with you every time time you loggeg in...
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well you seem to get it. :mrgreen::peace:




[ you get a gold star ]






it really is that simple.



thank you, my friend. :blsmoke::peace:
 
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Wikidbchofthewst

Wikidbchofthewst

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bongspit said:
I think it needs to moderated to some point because there is always going to be someone who takes it way too far...and then you have the personal attacks, if they weren't monitered you would have people that would quit coming around...it would suck to have someone fucking with you every time time you loggeg in...
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I agree. I mean, I can see the appeal of an unmoderated forum, but there are always people who you give them an inch and they take a fucking mile, you know? I would be worried about that, I mean, I wouldn't want to have some fuck head attacking me and harassing me and not be able to go to a mod for help.
 
potroastV2

potroastV2

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99% of this board goes unmoderated, the only time we step in when the site is being bashed, mods are being dis-respected or personal attacks on users. Other then that the site is a free for all. I am sorry but if you need less moderation then that it will not be done, if we let personal attacks slide then they would spill over to another thread. Some people just dont have a life and follow a user around until they leave or get banned, sad to say but its true.

If personal attacks are missed that is because we missed them, the amount of posts this site receives it is very hard to read everything, if you have a complaint about a post you can always click the report button.

Take Care
RIU
 
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40acres

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I have been stalked by men on this site. I think grown men. That said wierd stuff to me. While i didnt want to, i had to ask a moderator to stop it. It was getting to the point where they were talking about my children. As much as I dont want FDD to have to come and be my little rescuer, thats what was needed.

I am a huge fan of civil disobedience, but in the times we live in, most people have been raised on grand theft auto and have no manners.We have to have someone in charge, even if you think they are a douschebag with slanted views. Has to be something to stop the ridiculousness of some persons.
 
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