How About An Unmoderated Forum?

[Seamaiden]

Hey Lacy, There are unmoderated threads on here. Unless there are personal attacks, that is when a mod steps in.

Not true. There are plenty of instances where very personal attacks appear to be ignored. And, as Lacy pointed out, how are we to know which thread is moderated and which is not?

This is what I was told. In that area (Cannabis Cafe) we are only pulled in if there is a problem and have been pm'd about it. It is up to us as moderators what we want to do. So I guess it depends on the mod and how they want to deal with it. If there is personal attacks, threats or abuse though, that is not allowed here at all in any threads or posts.

Again, this is not true.
I'm curious, as moderators, do you guys have your own forum in which you discuss any issues with the board privately? My husband and I had a board for a few years, and we decided that free speech was most important, but insisted that members respect each other. Things would get heated, sure, but we only ever banned one person ever. And that was with the agreement of all moderators. We had one moderator leave because he wanted us to restrict use of the word 'nigger', and we refused. He felt strongly about that one word, and decided to take his leave. We understood, but ultimately disagreed, as it's impossible to clearly draw the line in such an instance without further restricting all sorts of speech.

I've never received any satisfactory answer from any moderator or the administrator himself as to how bannings and moderation are decided upon. To my view, it's all quite arbitrary and seems to hinge upon any given mod's mood. It makes it impossible to discern what's alright and what's not. I don't think I'm at risk, but I sure am curious. Curious dead?

 

[Chiceh]

Not true. There are plenty of instances where very personal attacks appear to be ignored. And, as Lacy pointed out, how are we to know which thread is moderated and which is not?
Again, this is not true.
I'm curious, as moderators, do you guys have your own forum in which you discuss any issues with the board privately? My husband and I had a board for a few years, and we decided that free speech was most important, but insisted that members respect each other. Things would get heated, sure, but we only ever banned one person ever. And that was with the agreement of all moderators. We had one moderator leave because he wanted us to restrict use of the word 'nigger', and we refused. He felt strongly about that one word, and decided to take his leave. We understood, but ultimately disagreed, as it's impossible to clearly draw the line in such an instance without further restricting all sorts of speech.

I've never received any satisfactory answer from any moderator or the administrator himself as to how bannings and moderation are decided upon. To my view, it's all quite arbitrary and seems to hinge upon any given mod's mood. It makes it impossible to discern what's alright and what's not. I don't think I'm at risk, but I sure am curious. Curious dead?

Fair enough,these are great questions to ask Rollitup himself. As a new moderator, I have not had to deal with lots of issues yet. I believe in free speech as much as anyone here, but as a member here I have to follow the guidelines set by Rollitup.

 

[DR. VonDankenstine]

IF I 'wanted' to do 'that' I would have by now.

I just thought it would be good to have subjects that are so diverse and opinionated topics that it would not be fair to ask a moderator to step in. How can one moderate that fairly for everyone? Its absolutely impossible for 'us' as humans to not be judgmental no matter how hard to try. Its just ain't happenin. Sp how can an individual be neutral about such topics?

A few times I have accidentally posted in the politics section and it is brutal in there. Members are constantly attacking one another but if it is not a topic of interest to a mod then it isn't moderated. If the topic is of interest then it becomes moderated. Since everyone of us has our own unique personality and character with difference lifestyles, different personal experiences, how can one be involved without having their own opinion? You can't.

I have noticed religion is not moderated. That is another topic that gets really heated. When a religious topic is brought up each one of us has our own ideas and beliefs. These topics can get very nasty and heated.

I don't often find threads about sexuality heated with anger but it is not like a hang out in that section of the forum either. BUT this topic is unde the same scrunity as the other topics.

Or what about spirituality? What if one does not believe in life after dealth and others do? Why should these topics even need to be moderated? What about science fiction or people who believe in u'f'o's?

And more importantly, how can they be done fairly? I honestly don't think it can be.

I did not start this thread as any kind of criticism towards the site or the mods and certainly don't want to chat about sex all day.
so sorry but I did not understand your comment at all.

Maybe you could start an unmoderated forum?

 

[fdd2blk]

https://www.rollitup.org/toke-n-talk/37701-ladies-forum.html

 

[Lacy]

Again, I totally agree with you seamaiden.

Not true. There are plenty of instances where very personal attacks appear to be ignored. And, as Lacy pointed out, how are we to know which thread is moderated and which is not?
Again, this is not true.
I'm curious, as moderators, do you guys have your own forum in which you discuss any issues with the board privately? My husband and I had a board for a few years, and we decided that free speech was most important, but insisted that members respect each other. Things would get heated, sure, but we only ever banned one person ever. And that was with the agreement of all moderators. We had one moderator leave because he wanted us to restrict use of the word 'nigger', and we refused. He felt strongly about that one word, and decided to take his leave. We understood, but ultimately disagreed, as it's impossible to clearly draw the line in such an instance without further restricting all sorts of speech.

I've never received any satisfactory answer from any moderator or the administrator himself as to how bannings and moderation are decided upon. To my view, it's all quite arbitrary and seems to hinge upon any given mod's mood. It makes it impossible to discern what's alright and what's not. I don't think I'm at risk, but I sure am curious. Curious dead?

 

[Lacy]

Shine On you crazy diamond

YouTube - The Show Must Go On (Pink Floyd: The Wall)





In The Flesh (Waters) 1:36

So ya
Thought ya
Might like to
Go to the show.
To feel that warm thrill of confusion,
That space cadet glow.
I've got some bad news for you sunshine,
Pink isn't well, he stayed back at the hotel
And they sent us along as a surrogate band
We're gonna find out where you folks really stand.

Are there any queers in the theater tonight?
Get them up against the wall!
There's one in the spotlight, he don't look right to me,
Get him up against the wall!
That one looks Jewish!
And that one's a coon!
Who let all of this riff-raff into the room?
There's one smoking a joint,
And another with spots!
If I had my way,
I'd have all of you shot!

 

[Seamaiden]

You think I'm curious dead, too, eh?

Sorry for the irreverence, I'm enjoying the rare beer and I don't hold my liquor. SSSHHH!! Don't tell my husband I'm such a cheap date, it's even worse that I'm such a slut for him.

 

[Seamaiden]

Shine On you crazy diamond

Shine On.

 

[Lacy]

Aww chiceh. I wasn't saying it for suck up points.

You're doing a wonderful job. Honest!

You're my home gurl.

Like yo chiceh,....wuzzz up?

Thanks, I still can't rep you after the last one, sorry oops. I hope I am doing a good job, let me know if I am not, lol.

 

[Lacy]

You got it gurl

Shine On.

 

[Lacy]

Oh my. I was going to ask how the letting your hubby know you were home naked went but not sure if it is appropriate or not........
but since you're drunk and all........











so how did it go???

You think I'm curious dead, too, eh?

Sorry for the irreverence, I'm enjoying the rare beer and I don't hold my liquor. SSSHHH!! Don't tell my husband I'm such a cheap date, it's even worse that I'm such a slut for him.

 

[Seamaiden]

Oh my. I was going to ask how the letting your hubby know you were home naked went but not sure if it is appropriate or not........
but since you're drunk and all........











so how did it go???

I got a concussion. I think fdd is annoyed with us now, too much sex talk.

 

[fdd2blk]

i could care less. like i said, "it's your site".

 

[Seamaiden]

i could care less. like i said, "it's your site".

You sure you couldn't care any less than you care now?

 

[Lacy]

...........................time to go.......................

 

[fdd2blk]

You sure you couldn't care any less than you care now?

i find it somewhat hurtful that there are a few here who always seem to find something wrong with this site. people who spend a lot of time here yet always seem to have some sort of complaint. people who either want something (rules set) or don't want anything (free speech). i love this site and everything about it, but the minute someone bad mouths the mods or the site as a whole it just urks me.

 

[fdd2blk]

...........................time to go.......................

now that you've stirred a bunch of shit AGAIN. turn off your PM box before you leave.

 

[Seamaiden]

i find it somewhat hurtful that there are a few here who always seem to find something wrong with this site. people who spend a lot of time here yet always seem to have some sort of complaint. people who either want something (rules set) or don't want anything (free speech). i love this site and everything about it, but the minute someone bad mouths the mods or the site as a whole it just urks me.

Ok, fair enough. But do questions that are only meant to help one understand how things work irksome as well? I'm not complaining, I'm just curious as to how things work.

For the record, I don't ask for more rules, usually fewer. I think the mods/admins have enough to do without policing how people treat each other. That's just my perspective.

 

[fdd2blk]

there is no set way on "how things work". we were given the position as mods because we have special powers. these powers tell us when to step in. i don't know where these powers come from or how they work, they just DO. think "jedi".

 

[Seamaiden]

I'm a Star Trek geek. Lucas never did it for me the way Roddenberry did.