Titan is better! 3/4 lines and the inner bucket is a net pot allowing better root growth! And makes pulling the inner out
Thanks for clarifying. I guess I would have to experience them for myself in order to appreciate the differences.
How does the netpot make the root growth better? Seems to me, they would still mat up around the edges, but now all those roots would be between the outer bucket and the net pot. Wouldn't that make it much more difficult to put the netpot back into the outer bucket? With the CAP system, all the roots are on the bottom, so I think it would be easier to put the inner bucket back into the outer. I'm not sure I see the advantages of the netpot as an inner bucket. Couldn't you just drill a bunch of holes in the side of the CAP inner buckets to achieve the same result?Titan is better! 3/4 lines and the inner bucket is a net pot allowing better root growth! And makes pulling the inner out
and placing back in simple. Also caps control box electronics are made in china and the titan is solid state made in germany!
i dont know about you but im not a fan of china made so that leaves titan
I have no experience with the Monster version of the system, but I don't see why you couldn't expand any of these systems as large as you want. You may have to add additional reservoirs and/or increase the number of output circuits on the brain buckets, but you could do it. I did consider the monster system when I bought my Ebb & Gro, but I don't think the 5 gallon sites are necessary. I never had any issues with the smaller sites when I used this system in the 90's, so I don't see why that would change now. IMHO, the smaller sites have an advantage of allowing for more sites on a smaller reservoir. Of course, I plan to run this room as a SOG hybrid of sorts (instead of one main cola, I'll top them in veg and grow 4 colas per plant), so my plants really won't be in the buckets long enough to need 5g.
or? pull one of yours is it easy? no
first time i grew in ebb and grow i lost a plant because i had no idea what was going on. Now i pull the tees/elbows out of the buckets every 2 weeks to cut off roots. It is part of my schedule now.
I think I understand the point you're trying to make. You're saying that, for the Ebb & Gro, the inner buckets 'stick' in the outer buckets, right?
I'm skeptical about some of the advantages you're claiming. I'm sure the net pots will affect the structure of the root mass (this difference being the potential issue I mentioned above), but I don't really see how it will impact the other items you listed. Since I lack the experience you have with the Titan system, until I can compare them myself, I'll just have to suspend forming an opinion regarding the advantages of a net pot. I think there are net pots available that will fit inside the outer buckets. If I can find some, I will do a test in my next batch.
I mean no disrespect to yourself, or anyone else, by questioning things. I'm just a very inquisitive and logical person. While I don't consider myself a newbie to growing, it has been awhile and I am not an expert. That being said, I will not adopt a belief based on who else holds that belief. If that belief is based in logic, and that logic is explained to me, then I may adopt that belief myself.
It's not real likely I will DIY a bucket system anytime soon. Right now, the time savings are worth much more to me than the cost of a pre-built system. I do like the idea though. I am definitely a 'DIY type' of person.
What im saying! You can bring a horse to water but you cant make it drink lol
In 2 threads alone there is almost 4000 posts on all this. If reading them is to much work growing will be too.
last tryI think I understand the point you're trying to make. You're saying that, for the Ebb & Gro, the inner buckets 'stick' in the outer buckets, right?
I had not really noticed that, but after you brought it up, I guess the outer buckets do seem to lift up sometimes when I am removing the inner. It's not been a problem so far in this grow, and I don't recall it being an issue when I an Ebb & Gro back in the 90'
I'm skeptical about some of the advantages you're claiming. I'm sure the net pots will affect the structure of the root mass (this difference being the potential issue I mentioned above), but I don't really see how it will impact the other items you listed. Since I lack the experience you have with the Titan system, until I can compare them myself, I'll just have to suspend forming an opinion regarding the advantages of a net pot. I think there are net pots available that will fit inside the outer buckets. If I can find some, I will do a test in my next batch.
I mean no disrespect to yourself, or anyone else, by questioning things. I'm just a very inquisitive and logical person. While I don't consider myself a newbie to growing, it has been awhile and I am not an expert. That being said, I will not adopt a belief based on who else holds that belief. If that belief is based in logic, and that logic is explained to me, then I may adopt that belief myself.
When I was a kid, "because I said so" never worked with me. My poor mother used to get frustrated because I always wanted to know "why?"
I certainly hope none of this comes across as argumentative or disrespectful. I learn a lot from what people post on these forums and really appreciate all the valuable experience others share.
Wish there was!
but then you would not learn the reason behind all those facts, idea, and concepts. Sure you might be able to simply copy/repeat what you read, but there are too many variables and when they start working against you, that missing knowledge and troubleshooting will come in handy. bn4er56