after trying dyna gro im switching back to advanced nutrients 2 part

hooked.on.ponics

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very good read .. .
Thrilling, even. I particularly liked the part where it said "An error occurred while processing your request.Reference #50.26bf3b17.1354910575.91e769fe"
Life-changing.

Seriously though, the problem with the argument "N is N" is one side is arguing from a flawed understanding of science.

Yes, of course anything is equal to itself. Any atom is identical to any other atom of the same type, presuming of course we're not talking about isotopes or ions.

But this is a very narrow view and creates a fundamental misunderstanding of the very nature of... nature. You're not likely to ever wander around and find a solitary Nitrogen atom drifting around. With the exception of your noble gasses, atoms are almost always stuck to other atoms (making molecules). Saying that all Nitrogen is the same for plants is like saying all Oxygen is the same for humans. There's TONS of oxygen in water. Try breathing it sometime and let me know if you still think "oxygen is oxygen". It doesn't matter how much water you get in your lungs (or your stomach or any other type of contact) you will NOT get enough oxygen in your blood to survive unless it's in a very specific, useful form for your body. Our body is only capable of absorbing oxygen effectively through a single method and in a single form (O2, gaseous oxygen). (Yes, I did see "The Abyss" and I'm aware of hyper-oxygenated fluids. The point still stands.)

Plants are no different. They need relatively precise proportions of their elemental nutrients, and in relatively precise forms. They're much less picky about that than we are about our oxygen, but they're still rather picky. They'll actually grow differently based on the type of Nitrogen you give them, and there's a lot more than just Nitrogen (or Phosphorus, or Potassium) they need to thrive and each of those can be supplied in multiple different forms.

So yes, Nitrogen is Nitrogen. But saying that in terms of plant science only serves to illustrate a fundamental flaw in your understanding of science as a whole, and plant science in particular.
 

Alexander Supertramp

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Different sources of N can affect the pH of your medium in different ways. Ammoniacal and Ureas tend to lower a mediums pH over time. While Nitrates tend to raise a mediums pH over time. Just like different sources of water, rain, tap or distilled can carry a different charge(positive/neutral/negative), which affects how it reacts with the medium. Seems most growers around here want to run a race before learning to crawl or walk. Thats why so many fail to grow one of the EASIEST plants on the planet too grow. IMO that is....
 

Vinland88

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I wanna gouge my eyes out after reading through 16 pages. Im new to growing and was pitched DG. I came to get info and alll i read was garbage. I want my 30 minutes back
 

ScoobyDoobyDoo

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I wanna gouge my eyes out after reading through 16 pages. Im new to growing and was pitched DG. I came to get info and alll i read was garbage. I want my 30 minutes back
LMAO! i'll give you all the info you need. since you are new to growing then go right ahead and use DG. it's like paint by numbers; simple and easy. when you have a few grows under your belt and want to increase your yield and quality then you should start experimenting with other product lines cause DG is baby food basically. i'm not trying to grow babies anymore. i want linebackers on steroids. :-P
 

aeroman

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LMAO! i'll give you all the info you need. since you are new to growing then go right ahead and use DG. it's like paint by numbers; simple and easy. when you have a few grows under your belt and want to increase your yield and quality then you should start experimenting with other product lines cause DG is baby food basically. i'm not trying to grow babies anymore. i want linebackers on steroids. :-P
LMAO!!

hell 2 tha mother f'n YEAH bro!
couldnt say it better myself
 

tree king

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exactly just listen to scooby and look at some pics of the plants he grows. also just to add i know this threads kind of long to read through but we've also discovered that plants grown with AN grow much more vigorous in veg and stretch much more than dyna. we also found out dyna buds are more airy
 

tree king

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Great growers are like great athletes. They dont need steroids to attain perfection...
blah blah blah blah blah. and if you ate only fried chicken everyday for a month you would look the exact same as eating only broccoli right? you guys gotta stop repeating the same nonsense over and over

and for your info steroids do give athletes an edge why the fuck do you think they take them for fun?
 

ScoobyDoobyDoo

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blah blah blah blah blah. and if you ate only fried chicken everyday for a month you would look the exact same as eating only broccoli right? you guys gotta stop repeating the same nonsense over and over

and for your info steroids do give athletes an edge why the fuck do you think they take them for fun?

thank god you said it. i was at a loss for words on how fucking stupid that previous comment was. does this guy live in a cave? why do you think they call it the steroid era in baseball. ever heard of Lance Armstrong, Barry Bonds, Alex Rodriguez, Ben Johnson? some people are just so far out there it's amazing.

i prefer to discuss growing with people who aren't mentally handicapped on the subject.

how you been tree? hope all is well. i'm so tired of the DG warriors. i've got a million other things i wanna do but now i'm gonna run that DG side by side with the seeds i just popped. fianlly put these mongols to bed. i'll post a link for you when i get started.
 

Alexander Supertramp

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Every grower that disagrees with you and dosent buy all of your BS seems to grow small, fluffy buds. And I have seen ypur grow and theirs. I am glad I grow so called fluffy buds....
 

ScoobyDoobyDoo

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Every grower that disagrees with you and dosent buy all of your BS seems to grow small, fluffy buds. And I have seen ypur grow and theirs. I am glad I grow so called fluffy buds....
show us your cute little buds? i wanna have a laugh this morning.

you seem to be the one that EVERYONE disagrees with. except you butt buddy (aka...ghost account) homebrewer.
 
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