after trying dyna gro im switching back to advanced nutrients 2 part

HeartlandHank

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Here is a first run with Dyna. My camera equipment/skills are pretty amateur. This was day of harvest. We do a quick handtrim as soon as they come down and hang to dry. Most are good to go after dry. Some take a quick cleanup. These colas were all over the place, most had 4-5 per plant with mid level growth as well. I did well with Dyna.
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Alexander Supertramp

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Nice looking nugs Hank. Good for you understanding how a plant works and grows. Rather than follow the hype that ultimately empties your wallet and dosent fill your jars......
 

HeartlandHank

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Nice looking nugs Hank. Good for you understanding how a plant works and grows. Rather than follow the hype that ultimately empties your wallet and dosent fill your jars......
Thanks Alexander. Yeah, I would happily pay more for something if it improved something in the end. With nutrients, so far my best results have been with the lowest cost formula tried. It makes me a little furious when I estimate my career Canna bill... I want to experiment with a few others before trying out an organic run next year. I've tried complete Canna, complete H&G and Dyna mixing 9-3-6, 7-9-5 and 3-12-6 with HnG Root excel.

Here are some others buds after maybe 5 days of drying. I dry over about 2 weeks. With a little squeeze you can feel it is holding a good amount of its wet density. Size is shrinking, obviously. This is in a little bit more generous lighting. I'm treating myself to a new camera soon. I'll clean up some choice nicely when i get the camera. These buds are from personally collected S1 Green Crack (bag seed), a skunk x indica... fucking love this plant. :eyesmoke:.
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Alexander Supertramp

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May I suggest you give FF a tryout. Just the Grow Big 6-4-4(3-2-2) and Tiger Bloom 2-8-4(1-4-2). And the cost is reasonable. Fuck the feeding schedule, 3 tsp of one or the other or combination of the the 2 has treated my plants well in many a grow. I have some Wappa clones on that very diet right now. Lights go out in about an hour, I get some pics up then to show how happy they are.
 

HeartlandHank

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May I suggest you give FF a tryout.
I just sent them an email about some sample bottles. My go-to retail shop did not have any.
I used grow big once for a couple outdoor feedings. That was a long time ago though. I remember them being very potent nutes. I picked up a qt of Dyna Grow today for quick feedings on this next run. Otherwise, I'm working on using up old nutrient bottles. I'll need a ppm meter with all the nute mixing.
Fox Farm sounds like a good one to try out though before the organic run. I need to try out AN bases as well.

Would love to see those pics.
 

Alexander Supertramp

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All 4 are cuts from the same a mature mother plant. Little one the 2 qt is 12/12 from rooted clone. About 2 weeks from cutting. Other 3 where put in gallon containers and given 3 more weeks before 12/12. Basic peat mix with well water. No meters used. Its not that hot. Its pretty user friendly. HPIM1375.jpgHPIM1376.jpgHPIM1377.jpgHPIM1379.jpgHPIM1381.jpgHPIM1382.jpgHPIM1383.jpg
 

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HeartlandHank

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^ Wow. Very nice Alexander. Wappa huh? I like. Those look great. Super healthy.
I've never tried the 12/12 from rooted clone... i like your results though. I need to try that with my long flowering varieties.

Fox Farm got back to me quickly. No samples. I'll pick some up after i clear out these various bottles.
 

HeartlandHank

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^^Damn. Very nice... You grow some beautiful plants. I've had my eye on the Texada Timewarp crosses from Peakseedsbc... Peakseedbc is another great example of less is more in the mj world. Just crosses between NL, Skunk, Blueberry and Timewarp. In low cost 10 packs of regular. Their NL is the most potent thing I have grown to date. It doesn't make the greatest bud porn, but it is very potent.
I'll have some of that dried soon. I'll put up some pics. They were also DG grown.
 

inhaleindica

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So we get Bud porn? Compensating? Here is some more:




Must be the nutes, not the cook. I asked for your help feeding plants with your sacred Dyna so as to provide a realistic, pragmatic comparison for my side-by-side test, not just throw nutes at it with your "opinion" of what the PPM's should be. Get it? So much for confidentiality. When you come on threads slamming AN for no valid reason, I will respond. Get off your "relevant" high horse, you are far from a Master grower mr 6 plant wonder. Your frosty bud shots are 99% genetics.
Lol, you have not read his threat carefully. If you had read it properly then you would have known that this picture is in the one grown using AN's conniseur. This picture is in HB's Dyna vs AN's. Go back and check the picture that grew with Dyna-gro and come back and tell me that I am wrong? The one grown with Dyna-gro didn't look like that picture not even close.
 

patlpp

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What an ass......... no shit Capt. Obvious. it's conny and his grow. e-sarcasm 101. Geez, this is our future.
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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Its food feed them when there hungary. keep it consistant dont tweak out bout the shit holy moly. Maybe the ppms r off who knos bravo an works dg works gh works. use it right
not sure how old this thread is but man you hit it right on the money.......N is N P is P and K is K i dunno maybe im just trying to be simple but a Nitrogen atom is Nitrogen atom, they dont come in good, better best quality
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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I use Espoma bulb tone as a ammendmant to my FFoF soil and it has treated me really well, right now im using the general organics lineup "the go box" and things are looking great in my room. Buds havent really started developing yet as they are only ending thier second week of flower now.


i must say quality genetics beats out fancy fertilizers any day
 

MajorCoco

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not sure how old this thread is but man you hit it right on the money.......N is N P is P and K is K i dunno maybe im just trying to be simple but a Nitrogen atom is Nitrogen atom, they dont come in good, better best quality
That may well be true, but try explaining that on a thread where, for example, people are discussing the benefits of using piss as a source of N in an organic grow...emotion rules most people's brains. In my experience...
 

homebrewer

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not sure how old this thread is but man you hit it right on the money.......N is N P is P and K is K i dunno maybe im just trying to be simple but a Nitrogen atom is Nitrogen atom, they dont come in good, better best quality
N is not N. There are many sources for nitrogen. Some are better suited for dirt and some are better suited for hydro. Some are cheap, some are not so cheap. But essentially you're correct. Salts are salts, why pay a premium when there is absolutely no need?

Here is some reading:

http://www.ehow.com/about_5390862_sources-nitrogen-fertilizer.html

http://www.ehow.com/info_8656185_ammoniacal-fertilizer-vs-urea-fertilizer.html

http://lancaster.unl.edu/ag/factsheets/288.pdf

http://www.greenhousegrower.com/article/4049/understanding-plant-nutrition-fertilizers-and-media-ph

Here is a fun one; Other Water Soluble Nitrogen, and that makes up almost 60% of the nitrogen found in AN's Connoisseur: http://140.254.84.203/wiki/index.php/Water_soluble_nitrogen_(WSN)

A form of fertilizer in which the nitrogen is readily available for uptake by plants, and which provides quick color and growth response, limited response duration and high foliar burn and leaching potential; WSN sources are typically less expensive per pound of nutrient than Water insoluble nitrogen (WIN) sources.
 

inhaleindica

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I use Espoma bulb tone as a ammendmant to my FFoF soil and it has treated me really well, right now im using the general organics lineup "the go box" and things are looking great in my room. Buds havent really started developing yet as they are only ending thier second week of flower now.


i must say quality genetics beats out fancy fertilizers any day
Yes, N is N but the quality varies. Organics and synthetic are different. One will yield less than the other, but one will produce superior quality and flavor if done right. Genetics will produce with any good fertilizer. I still scratch my head and wonder why would one want to buy expensive or " specifically made for marijuana" brands. Cheaper and all the required nutrients in 1 bottle does the trick.
 

Sir.Ganga

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But essentially you're correct. Salts are salts, why pay a premium when there is absolutely no need?
Do you remember our conversation on urea? You kinda have done a flip flop....so have you actually learned something or just pushing the bullshit...AGAIN.

Its a weed, it basically grows itself, AN is not for everyone but I have done the nute dance and will only use AN products after my findings. Cost and control is what I desire in a nutrient.

Do your own research, make your choice and don't worry about sales people. Your much better off that way.

Good Luck
 

Alexander Supertramp

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^^Damn. Very nice... You grow some beautiful plants. I've had my eye on the Texada Timewarp crosses from Peakseedsbc... Peakseedbc is another great example of less is more in the mj world. Just crosses between NL, Skunk, Blueberry and Timewarp. In low cost 10 packs of regular. Their NL is the most potent thing I have grown to date. It doesn't make the greatest bud porn, but it is very potent.
I'll have some of that dried soon. I'll put up some pics. They were also DG grown.
Thanks Hank. This TW is actually an f1 hybrid as it was crossed with a pure skunk. I am going to reveg this particular plant as I did not take any clones, my bad. It will get harvested tomorrow at 45 days making it fast finisher for a sativa dominate plant. Out of the 5 beans popped 2 were female and the other still has a ways to go but is starting to show some color too. Dosent look like either are going to be the big yielder's. But both are frosty as all get out and smell absolutely wonderful, very sweet and pungent.

EDIT: oh ya the Wappa is a great yielder and carries a sour knockout indica punch.
 
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