improving the flavorand buzz of whatever strain

hazey grapes

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first, stop burning your bud. vaporized weed tastes better, doesn't put C02 and carbon in your lungs (i bet you can hold hits longer because of that) and gives you a cleaner high with less couchlock. if you get an efficient design like purple days or a clone, your weed will last longer too. win win win win. if you've never vaporized yet, you should try it. the gear isn't cheap though.

another way to improve your quality is to switch to fuller spectrum halides or at the very least mix them in. sodiums are all about flowering and yield. just like indicas have done for far too long, it lowers the quality of your bud. you need full spectrum light for full terpene (flavor) expression. that's why troll bastards couldn't understand the grape flavors i got out of LSD, C99 and especially super cali haze under my blue white 400w halide. SCH X C99 was "generic fruity" tasting under my 400w sodium which surprised me. i figured the light had to be the difference and after some research and recent posts here, yep, sodium sucks! it's more cash crapper schwag producing.

the red orange colors, and higher output too i bet, produce more infrared which degrades THC while all that blue in halide is not only closer to the UV that's good for THC that sodium ain't even close to, but touches ALL of the "spectrum notches" needed for healthy plants. halides put red out, just not a lot of it. they're closer to sunlight. that's why dr atomic has his "metal haze" and even DJ shorts has weighed in on the topic along with a couple other articles i looked up googling terpenes and spectrum. cervantes was right all the way back around 1987 at the latest with his early edition of indoor marijuana horticulture with the cheap cartoony looking cover and even cheaper crude illustrations but more info than his top 2 book competitors combined. i've never trusted sodiums, and mine is turning into a spare. i'm running 2x blue from now on. i want to taste that delicious grape flavor again.

environment makes a difference. organic mixes with a lot of variety have to help flavor too. everything i've read says so and some of the best tasting weed i've ever tried was a coworker's homegrown that he made his own high quality compost for with food scraps. it tasted like salad in leaf form. it was OK and dirt cheap, but very tasty. i know i got a nasty metallic twang eventually using a crystal fert in my organics at first and that's what you need for full chemdog flavor. i've gotten nice enough flavors out of basic organics, and especially under my halide.

these 3 attentions to detail should improve any strain you're growing. i'm not going to waste my time doing a 50:50 halide/sodium test grow. i don't care about yield, just top quality. if DJ shorts says it's true... STFU and listen. i wish i had his original thais.
 

hazey grapes

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i bet my fruity booty 1.0 tastes better than just fruity. it should have clear grape notes. i chose my handle because of the grape taste of super cali haze under halides. i've ALWAYS been suspicious of sodiums back when virtually all growing was sea of green.

i grow because i despise stony stupifying afghani dominant SCHWAG. i would rather smoke mexican brick *cringe* masked with castor oil *cringe* than afghani any day. i'd grudgingly accept skunk #1, but where i come from, even THAT is a rarity.
 

SenorBrownWater

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imo... vaping weed doesn't taste better...it all tastes the same.. like vapor...
i can't even tell what strain i'm vaping...i have a iolite and a extreme...
 

hazey grapes

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well i've only vaporized one very generic stony strain and liked the "dry hit" taste of the leaves better myself. regardless, i'm eventually getting a vaporizer for the health and environmental benefits and making my weed last longer. i can't wait until i'm ahead of the curve with enough head stash to keep me going. i think i blaze a lot more than a gram a day when i have it around.

i would expect any strain you vaporize to taste more or less what the bud smells like. a fresh green salad taste works for me.
 

marc88101

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i bet my fruity booty 1.0 tastes better than just fruity. it should have clear grape notes. i chose my handle because of the grape taste of super cali haze under halides. i've ALWAYS been suspicious of sodiums back when virtually all growing was sea of green.

i grow because i despise stony stupifying afghani dominant SCHWAG. i would rather smoke mexican brick *cringe* masked with castor oil *cringe* than afghani any day. i'd grudgingly accept skunk #1, but where i come from, even THAT is a rarity.
I like grape notes too, I just get a big chuck of grape big league chew and then hit my Hindu Kush....great grape notes
 

hazey grapes

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i'm tryng to stay away from more indica dominant grape strains. i'd rather get them from a straight up haze if i could. i'm almost inclined to retest all of the gear that had very similar "generic fruity" flavors and see if they separate into grapes for some of the hazes and maybe even tutti fruity for the thais. i DEFINTELY got 100% genuine tutti fruity flavor out of highland thai. growing it's a real bitch though. i won't try that again until i have enough headstash to put up with it and give it all it demands.
 

DoomBrew420

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Vaping tastes different, it has more of a green tatse. Some people prefer smoking because it gives you a different effect and they like the smokey flavor... I would have to say that vaping lower quality buds always made them taste all that much better. But i still prefer smoke to vapor. Afghani is not schwag lmao. Ones personal preference does not dictate quality. All Strains have favorable and unfavorable traits depending on individual preference. So whatever floats your boat.
 

hazey grapes

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yes, i'm stating my personal tastes and NOT an indesputable fact, but the fact is i've despised indicas since the very first time i smoked them when i got upwards of 3 grams of two different "redhairs & skunks" for the $8 i had in my pocket and no matter how much i smoked, i only got more and more tired and not and notter high.

the fact that in 25 years with as many or more dealers i've never gotten away from it, i think i've earned the right to vent about getting ripped off for several thousand dollars and 2 1/2 decades of my life by those that refuse to honor god's gift and that just want money. DO NOT get me started on the kind of scum that grows indica and buys their own smoke from someone else. that is a clear "fuck you! give me your money!" to one's customers. i'd be ashamed to ask for money for something i wouldn't smoke myself unless someone refused anything you can get high off and demanded indicas. they'd have little problem finding ANYONE ELSE to provide that service, not that i grow for profits. i'd rather give it away like red hot chilli peppers say... bob marley and all that good iree jah stuff.
 

althor

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yes, i'm stating my personal tastes and NOT an indesputable fact, but the fact is i've despised indicas since the very first time i smoked them when i got upwards of 3 grams of two different "redhairs & skunks" for the $8 i had in my pocket and no matter how much i smoked, i only got more and more tired and not and notter high.

the fact that in 25 years with as many or more dealers i've never gotten away from it, i think i've earned the right to vent about getting ripped off for several thousand dollars and 2 1/2 decades of my life by those that refuse to honor god's gift and that just want money. DO NOT get me started on the kind of scum that grows indica and buys their own smoke from someone else. that is a clear "fuck you! give me your money!" to one's customers. i'd be ashamed to ask for money for something i wouldn't smoke myself unless someone refused anything you can get high off and demanded indicas. they'd have little problem finding ANYONE ELSE to provide that service, not that i grow for profits. i'd rather give it away like red hot chilli peppers say... bob marley and all that good iree jah stuff.

Hard to give away when you smoke it up before it even starts producing real buds...
 

hazey grapes

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my first grow, last year, i used my original halide system. the second time around last winter, i bought another lamp with a sodium bulb and used THAT with the plan to SCROG everything and turn the halide on when i screened everything. it didn't work out as planned. i was rushing the grow, dealing with neighbors up my ass, and everything got hot spot burns from the night i forgot to turn my fan on after turning it on an off with the light cycle because of said pieces of shit up in my biz and had to cut everything down. i have a 400w 1.0 lumatek & luminaire 6 system as well as a 2.0 of the same now. the new luminaire hoods are much nicer in a bunch of ways. i bought the sodium with that system. now i'm gonna purge that evil orange from my room and sky it it up, high it up better stomping the devil's neck in my little corner of the world. let him show his face in my space... it'll get old testament up in here. jah only.

i never trusted sodiums, i don't like them. they are tools of greed and the fact that they're red is symbolic to me. money doesn't change hands with anything i grow. my grows are all about the love. some day, i can't wait to share, just not with aholes. the dark side's AFRAID of the power of love. it only knows threats and greed and corruption. i'm playing a very different game my rules, my tools. laughter and smiles. turn that frown upside down trolls.
 

Clankie

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my first grow, last year, i used my original halide system. the second time around last winter, i bought another lamp with a sodium bulb and used THAT with the plan to SCROG everything and turn the halide on when i screened everything. it didn't work out as planned. i was rushing the grow, dealing with neighbors up my ass, and everything got hot spot burns from the night i forgot to turn my fan on after turning it on an off with the light cycle because of said pieces of shit up in my biz and had to cut everything down. i have a 400w 1.0 lumatek & luminaire 6 system as well as a 2.0 of the same now. the new luminaire hoods are much nicer in a bunch of ways. i bought the sodium with that system. now i'm gonna purge that evil orange from my room and sky it it up, high it up better stomping the devil's neck in my little corner of the world. let him show his face in my space... it'll get old testament up in here. jah only.

i never trusted sodiums, i don't like them. they are tools of greed and the fact that they're red is symbolic to me. money doesn't change hands with anything i grow. my grows are all about the love. some day, i can't wait to share, just not with aholes.
You'd think that if you had a space big enough to run a 400w you wouldn't have them in such tiny cups....and your neighbors are somehow involved in your grow..
 

hazey grapes

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you ever try to mix soil silently? you ever have REALLY pesky neighbors that bring out the worst in you? there's a fine line between rocking the boat and tipping it over. ever had sneaky bitch snitch pieces of shit call the landlord in to make a bullshit excuse to invade your privacy in the middle of a grow? huh?!!! i've had my grows interrupted on bogus maintenance etc. calls SEVERAL times in the past 2 years not including 3 surprise inspections. it's VERY hard to grow under those kinds of conditions, and nerve wracking too.
 

Jogro

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The nice thing for Hazey is that if you just turn the temperature down, you can reduce the amount of CBD extracted in your vaporizer and turn "stoney" (indica) strains into more "cerebral" (sativa) ones.

Whether or not smoking TASTES better than vaping is subjective, and its going to depend on the strain in question, but its definitely "cleaner".

You aren't spitting up carbon particles for two days after you vape, for example.
 

hazey grapes

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EVERYTHING with weed is subjective. flavor, buzz, quality, price... you name it. i instantly liked the taste of vaping myself and the buzz was better too. i'll make a point of comparing flavors of strains with smoking and vaping whenever i get a unit. i really wanted to wait until i have something to put in it.
 

althor

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If you really want to improve flavor and buzz, just DONT SMOKE THEM UNTIL THEY ARE MATURE AND CURED!
 
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