Yea, most guys measure their pecker like you measure a cats tail, from the asshole to the tip. That's why bi-women are happier !!!!!!!!............Think of it like your pecker.
When your talking to a doc you describe it from where it starts and ends.
When your bragging you describe it from the floor up.
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My fault. I was trying to make a joke out of it. Giving from the floor up is ok when just talking about the plants but when asking for help go from the dirt up. Real growers will know if your saying your plants are larger then they are by look and age. Hell I've been told that a buddy needed me to look at his 12" plant it dosnt look rite after he veged for 3 weeks and went to 12/12 for 1 week. Went and looked. It was 3 inch tall and it was 3 weeks from germ. Told him to give it tons of nutes. The more you give it the more it will grow. He did it died. Well it was dead anyways I just helped him put her out of her misery. I have sence shown him how to grow.how did we segue from measuring plants to penis'?