LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

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falcon223

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Pedro, you do need more light then that. If you move to the big light , don't put them to close. you can over do it.
Just keep an IE on them.


 
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falcon223

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My light fixture will be here to day. Some of the bulbs I ordered are on backorder.
One thing you learn with this hobby is patience's.

 
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pedro420

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falcon - thank you I didn't think they were going to be getting enough lightbut i also know not to over due it with light when they are this young
 
hyroot

hyroot

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pedro420 said:
i just dont think they are getting the light they need i have 5 seedlings under a singly 75w t5
they are all vigerous lil boogers except for the shy one who still has her seed shell but she is just as tall as the outhers
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I would stick with the 75 watt. I use a 54 watt for my seedlings and to root clones. It takes longer yes. But seeds and clones neee minimal light. if you add too much light , it could be to intense amd kill them. Plus adding extra light an heat can lean them towards being male. Low wattage and cool temps and low humidity for seedlings will almost guarantee female. I have never had a male in all my years. Once the roots have establishes themselves ( 2 or 3 new nodes). Then add more light. Keep temps cool.
 
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pedro420

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hyroot - the temps have been around 68 max 62 lowest humidity is around 50/55 all the time I think I'll go with my original plan to transplant after they are 2 Weeks today they are only 1 week old

I kno it's not much yet but you can check out my grow I'm my sig if you wanna kno nething
 
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Lucius Vorenus

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NEw T5 grow on Youtube today

[video=youtube;itKbUHuAEE8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itKbUHuAEE8&list=UUm986eT9vJ0zYyz1Cb-UurQ&index=2&feature=plcp[/video]
 
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tehshyt

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found a replacement for the 454
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Behold! The Giesemann POWERCHROME Actinic Plus:
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Its a little more expensive. But NOT on back order =D
 
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falcon223

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I got my fixture today and put in the bulbs I had on hand. I got this on amazon and it came with 6500 bulbs. Got free shipping and I
paid $198.00 . Looks good to.
Pedro I pop my seed under 200 WATS t8. I do get a lot of males though.

 
PetFlora

PetFlora

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hyroot said:
Liquid light...... Yeah I've used that before. I was the guinea pig for my local shop. It works really great but you have to buy that penetrator or saturator depending on where you buy it. Seen with either labels. I think they changed the name at one point. and mix them and spray every other day. I went through it in a month. It works great and I definitely saw a positive difference but it costs way too much. Liquid light - $60, Penetrator - $50.you have to use up the whole mix you make. Once it mixes together. It starts breaking down rather quickly.
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Once they are mixed you can extend life ~ 7 days by keeping it in the fridge
 
BlueB

BlueB

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My old physics teacher uses a spectrometer in his lab. The readings above 740nm is just noise so you can ignore that. So basically it is an actinic/blue light with a touch of red. No 660nm though.
 
Psytranceorgy

Psytranceorgy

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BlueB said:
My old physics teacher uses a spectrometer in his lab. The readings above 800nm is just noise so you can ignore that. So basically it is an actinic/blue light with a touch of red. No 660nm though.
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awesome! thanks for doing this... did you read any other bulbs? I confess that I am curious how your spectrometer results compare to published spectrum graphs =D
 
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falcon223

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Well darn, I got two Fiji purple and 3 red sons coming Friday. And I want bulbs for flower. I guess I will keep the Fiji for spear bulbs.



 
BlueB

BlueB

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Psytranceorgy said:
awesome! thanks for doing this... did you read any other bulbs? I confess that I am curious how your spectrometer results compare to published spectrum graphs =D
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I didn't have a reason to, although it did cross my mind. It was hard enough just to get the one graph. He is an extremely busy guy! The spectrometer is a really simple instrument. Small box that attaches to a computer on one side and a fiber optic sensor on the other. The sensor looks like a little maglite flashlight. It would be cool to own one. I really wanted to do an analysis of my entire mixture of bulbs, but like I said, we are really lucky to even have this one.
 
BlueB

BlueB

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I like the fact that the Fiji is an actinic/blue mixture. One less bulb to have to add (blue bulb). I think a good flower mixture would be something like 2 Fiji, 4 Flora Sun and 2 Red Sun. Keep your Fiji's man don't sweat it.
 
Redoctober

Redoctober

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BlueB said:
Did the spectral analysis for the Fiji Purple today.Here it is finally!Enjoy,View attachment 2005223
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Bellissimo!!! Finally we know about the elusive Fiji! You should email Korallenzucht them and tell them that you're going to send this graph UVL, ATI, and Wavepoint so they can all make bulbs that will crush the Fiji sales! That's what they get for being so dickish about not releasing their sacred spectral graph.

Incidentally, how expensive are those spectrophotometers anyway? All I've seen are the $200-$400 Apogee ones, and I don't know how good they are? Plus those are PAR meters so I'm not sure if they give a similar readout graph like what you were able to generate.
 
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