Why is god so mean? (if you believe him)

sso said:
the point of jesus according to some, was to be a messenger, i would say messenger of love (if you havent got love, you havent got anything (jesus said that))

making many of us live horrible lives?

people do that. to people. god has nothing to do with that.

if you hadnt got free will, you wouldnt be able to control when you went to the bathroom. ;)

who said it was ever morally ok to own slaves? people did, and wrote it down, attributing such to god is rather foolish.


according to some ideas that were had by christian people..

and anyways, just because you were raised under a certain religion, does not make it the ultimate truth.

and btw, if you have no free will, then you have no choice but to write what you do

and i have no choice in writing what i do.

making this entire affair rather pointless, why bother?

oh wait, we have no free will and have to continue.

so what does that make suicides?

god made them do it?
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Yes.... hence the reason I am saying he is so mean.
 
tyler.durden said:
Hey, Hep! I think TSH is on to something a few posts ago (gives me no pleasure to admit this), the Abrahamic god is so harsh because that was the zeitgeist in the era in which the bible was written. Ruling men back then (not so different now) was done by fear as opposed to respect or democratic consensus, individual rights didn't mean much if it was even a widely held concept. The only way such ludicrous dogma could be accepted is by fear, follow/believe this or you'll be set on fire for eternity. Dawkins starts his book, The God Delusion, with an accurate description of this:

"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully..."
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agreed... rep for you bud.
 
because early controlling mean old men made up god to instill fear and to control people... and they were pretty mean and controlling. hence mean and controlling god.

open your mind, free your mind, and you free yourself
 
I am my own god, so are you. We created this god thing out of nothing because we couldn't comprehend anything. And some of us jumped on this and created popes and clergymen to spread fear and keep us down.
 
its parallell 11 demension but to travel u have to play buy the rules if you dont you get pushed down to level one. the puzzle wont fit threw the hole..
 
Hepheastus420 said:
So whether or not we created god, he is still very mean.
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he warned your parrents and because your grandparents might of messed up you live that torment you have to fix what went wrong a few generations back, it follows the offspring, even if your good you have to fix the patern... free will
 
i do know my friend was dead three minutes the he wanted to die he sead he had left to a place of piece n he couldnt stop smilling the copss mistaked him for a hi speed chace n held him at gun point he was like what the fuck n made a move like hey you guys got the wrong guy a rookie shot him 5 times in the neck chest white american back hoe driver for goverment, mistaken person he fell doesnt remember much but him going into the light as i cliped he told me years later man i was thier its like i cant explain it... his wife told me YOU BETTER WAKE THE FUCK UP.. he told her im tired let me go< SHE SEAD YOU SON OF A BITCH YOU BETTER WAKE UP YOUCANT LEAVE ME OR THE KIDS.. he sead he had to come back of the kids they were still young he woke up some nurse standing over him Breath you need to breath chorchole in his lungs he breathed it hurt so bad he told me for 10 hours she stand over him BREATH YOUR NOT BREATHING.. n another of my friends grandfather old as fuck couldnt c his son died police oficer of cancer the man was to old to know his son died no one told him they were scared he would react he never talked he was like an ornimant in the house blind so old but his day came he sead to his family take care of so n so but nick is wating for me.. the hadnt sead a word in years he was on his death bed how the fuck did he know nick was dead n he stoped breathing... well im not gona argue with anyone.. thats just my experiance...
 
i dont understand what you just said thump lol. are you saying you know what happens when you die or something?


if thats your pic, nice looking garden btw
 
im drinking dont listen to me lolz just let me key the strokes.. on the tablet that is.. but no thats just what i heard n i believe it.
 
thump easy said:
i do know my friend was dead three minutes the he wanted to die he sead he had left to a place of piece n he couldnt stop smilling the copss mistaked him for a hi speed chace n held him at gun point he was like what the fuck n made a move like hey you guys got the wrong guy a rookie shot him 5 times in the neck chest white american back hoe driver for goverment, mistaken person he fell doesnt remember much but him going into the light as i cliped he told me years later man i was thier its like i cant explain it... his wife told me YOU BETTER WAKE THE FUCK UP.. he told her im tired let me go< SHE SEAD YOU SON OF A BITCH YOU BETTER WAKE UP YOUCANT LEAVE ME OR THE KIDS.. he sead he had to come back of the kids they were still young he woke up some nurse standing over him Breath you need to breath chorchole in his lungs he breathed it hurt so bad he told me for 10 hours she stand over him BREATH YOUR NOT BREATHING.. n another of my friends grandfather old as fuck couldnt c his son died police oficer of cancer the man was to old to know his son died no one told him they were scared he would react he never talked he was like an ornimant in the house blind so old but his day came he sead to his family take care of so n so but nick is wating for me.. the hadnt sead a word in years he was on his death bed how the fuck did he know nick was dead n he stoped breathing... well im not gona argue with anyone.. thats just my experiance...
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i hope u can understand it know... i spell checked a lil
 
Come on people, are you all that insane? God is an invention by man to make sense of the unknown. Sins are just the morality clause written by priests and prophets in order to control the rest of us. It's all fear. Believe in my god or we'll burn you at the stake. Don't blaspheme or we'll behead you. Pay tribute to us so that our bishops and popes can sit on gold thrones and fuck little kids.

Apes, apes apes...
 
Hepheastus420 said:
We all know he is mean (don't lie....it's a sin that will send you to hell since he's so rude).

Now I'm going to hell for saying that... eh I tried and failed....
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why are the people who don't believe so fascinated? God isn't mean. get to know him and maybe you will see what we are talking about. getting to know him is the key here brother :peace:
 
i just read this thread again LOL idk why
it never, NEVER ceases to amaze me how many non-believers are obsessed with religion and God. it's like they really want to believe and they are secretly looking for someone to explain everything so it makes sense to them?

does anyone else get this feeling? i mean i have no interest in NASCAR so i stay away from it. i don't drone on and on about how boring it is etc. i don't give it a second thought because it's not a part of my life.

it's like atheist have to challenge believers everyday. why? don't you have enough going on in your life that's satisfying? i wouldn't try to convert you, i would never think of coming on here to try to make you look or feel like an idiot. i wonder what it is that makes you think you need to do the same thing :peace:
 
Hepheastus420 said:
So whether or not we created god, he is still very mean.
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God does not have humans feelings
He gives us those feelings so we can hate or love
The God is not a human
He created humans and feelings
Stop saying that God is mean ,
You think he is because you keep looking at only the successful people and forget about the other people in South Africa or the people who are Sick or dead so you may think God that you still have feelings and that you still alive hope you can see this message
 
Farfenugen said:
Come on people, are you all that insane? God is an invention by man to make sense of the unknown. Sins are just the morality clause written by priests and prophets in order to control the rest of us. It's all fear. Believe in my god or we'll burn you at the stake. Don't blaspheme or we'll behead you. Pay tribute to us so that our bishops and popes can sit on gold thrones and fuck little kids.

Apes, apes apes...
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Than every single person in the world was created by his own God? that will be at least a 50000000000000Gods?
 
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