ever heard of this?
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Grumpy Old Dreamer
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Definitely worth trying - the plant certainly can't take up any nutes if you do that to it.
TaoWolf
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I can't think of why it wouldn't work if you go for the whole flushing thing. The plants would continue to use what nutrients they have in their tissue. I don't know why the pH of the water would matter though since there are no roots (or nutrients in the water for that matter) that need a proper pH range to uptake anything?
Grumpy Old Dreamer
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It may actually be the simplest and most efficient way to flush a plant.
ghb
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its simply bs.
the whole flush thing is questioned by some people, i however do flush before harvest.
if the plant has no roots it cannot up take any water, therefor it isn't flushing away the nutrients that are in the plant.
you are supposed to cut the nutrients and just use water, when the plant has used all the nutrients you have fed it, it will begin to eat its self, thats why you end up with yellow leaves etc.
i am not saying that flushing is neccessary, i'm simply saying that this is not a way to flush.
the whole flush thing is questioned by some people, i however do flush before harvest.
if the plant has no roots it cannot up take any water, therefor it isn't flushing away the nutrients that are in the plant.
you are supposed to cut the nutrients and just use water, when the plant has used all the nutrients you have fed it, it will begin to eat its self, thats why you end up with yellow leaves etc.
i am not saying that flushing is neccessary, i'm simply saying that this is not a way to flush.
canefan
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Exactly, the clones stay alive because the stem itself is the conduit for water. The cells in the stem will continue to carry water, although the flow might be diminished (by how much I have no idea). But the idea that just because you chop a plant that it is as Neal Boortz would say DRT (dead right there) is a lack of understanding how a plant works. Whether this would be good for flushing if you believe in that, I would say it would work as well as any other method, you basically have a big cutting or clone sitting in water wanting to root.
ghb
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a clone survives because it is a small plant and only perspires a small amount of water from the leaves. a big plant needs more moisture because it loses more, it simply won't pull enough water through the stem to support itself. thats my arguement, the plant will not "flush" properly with this method
TheTokingKing
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True too. Thats why the leaves go a little funky on some clones. They take the moisture from them.
I wouldnt try this...
I wouldnt try this...
I think this would work. I remember taking a carnation and placing it in a glass of water with dye in it. The dye does distribute through the plant as you can see the petals change color to match the dye. This is just a larger version. And yes you can clone with just a glass of water. I did it and it worked fine.
Scaling this up to a larger plant I am not sure if there would be any issues due to size, but the idea is sound & may be a pretty quick way to flush.
Edit: I bet this would be a good time to also flavor or color your bud if you wanted to. I am not sure what coloring would do to flavor though. Maybe I'll guinea pig it by coloring a small branch getting close to finishing.
Scaling this up to a larger plant I am not sure if there would be any issues due to size, but the idea is sound & may be a pretty quick way to flush.
Edit: I bet this would be a good time to also flavor or color your bud if you wanted to. I am not sure what coloring would do to flavor though. Maybe I'll guinea pig it by coloring a small branch getting close to finishing.
bigv1976
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So why do we put the stems of clones in water then?
TheTokingKing
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Because the plant is smaller and the intake is light. That could be why we keep our clones moist. DIDNT YOU ASK THIS ALREADY EARLIER IN THREAD? Or are there Thread echos
bigv1976
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No I am well aware of how a clone works I am just asking stupid questions to try to make the ignorant think for a minute. I have never misted a clone in my life. I cut them and put them in a glass of water with Superthrive and dont even look at them again for 2 weeks so I am guessing my clones are getting water through the stems or the water babies are jumping up to the leaves.
TaoWolf
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Alright, you guys made me consult a book on this. lol
Root pressure will allow a plant/tree to push water through about 30 feet of vertical height. However, it turns out that capilarity or capillary action will allow cuttings (no roots) of plants to draw water through about 19" of vertical height. However! The story doesn't end there because even with roots providing pressure, many plants and trees grow well over 30 feet in height right? Well a dude, botanist Henry Dixon, came up with a theory in 1914 called the Cohesion-Tension Theory, otherwise called 'Transpirational Pull' to explain how plants can move water over distances greater than the 19 inches that capillary action works and the 30 feet that root pressure provides. However, it still doesn't end there and it turns out that it is rather a mystery on how plants do it even after over a hundred years of botanical research. lol
But the moral of this story is: cuttings can and do indeed pull water up through their stem in the absence of roots - up to 19" in height due to capilarity alone and then even higher due to the cohesion-tension properties of water. Which, as it turns out involves the processes of transpiration that occurs in leaves.
Root pressure will allow a plant/tree to push water through about 30 feet of vertical height. However, it turns out that capilarity or capillary action will allow cuttings (no roots) of plants to draw water through about 19" of vertical height. However! The story doesn't end there because even with roots providing pressure, many plants and trees grow well over 30 feet in height right? Well a dude, botanist Henry Dixon, came up with a theory in 1914 called the Cohesion-Tension Theory, otherwise called 'Transpirational Pull' to explain how plants can move water over distances greater than the 19 inches that capillary action works and the 30 feet that root pressure provides. However, it still doesn't end there and it turns out that it is rather a mystery on how plants do it even after over a hundred years of botanical research. lol
But the moral of this story is: cuttings can and do indeed pull water up through their stem in the absence of roots - up to 19" in height due to capilarity alone and then even higher due to the cohesion-tension properties of water. Which, as it turns out involves the processes of transpiration that occurs in leaves.
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