Newb Closet Coco Grow, 400w MH+HPS
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mared juwan
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Yea I'll put up a report when the time comes. I like at least three weeks cure but I will be testing these Green House as soon as the buds are dry. I'm about to pot up the next round of clones and I need to find out which strains are worth keeping ASAP.
OK, it's kind of complicated to explain every little subtlety of my nute regimen but I will try. To start off, this works awesome in coco between 5.5 and 6.2 ph. If you change either of those conditions nute uptake happens differently so I can't guarantee your success. For veg I use Botanicare Pure Blend Pro. But that doesn't have enough P for coco so you need a fair amount of Ionic Boost. Start clones out at 6mL/gal Pure Blend, 2mL/gal Ionic Boost. As the cutting grows it will need even more P so by the time I hit flower I am using almost equal parts Pure Blend and Ionic Boost. Usually like 12mL/gal Pure Blend, 10mL/gal Ionic Boost. This will seem like a lot of Boost but I've been tweaking this formula for a while and it works. For seedlings you will want to be more gentle obviously.
Now flower is where the magic really happens. Look at this chart --> http://www.advancednutrients.com/nutcalc3public/ Bookmark that mofo. On the pulldown menus at the top change the Nutrient Base to "Sensi 2 Part", change the Formula to "Plus Program Bloom - Medium Levels", change the reservoir size to 3.79 L so the chart will display in mL/gal. This is the chart I follow. I know it pretty much by memory at this point. You don't need all that stuff they listed. Most is not necessary. You will only need to look at the Sensi Bloom A & B, Big Bud, Overdrive, Carboload, and Barricade. There are two ways in which I deviate from this chart. I don't use Bud Blood. Tried it, didn't notice much of a difference. So instead I use 10mL/gal (1 g/gal) Big Bud in the first week. Also I do not use Overdrive which is 1-5-4. I think Ionic Boost at 0-5-6 works much better and it is almost 1/2 the price. Use 8-10mL/gal until you start flush.
Another note is that I've been trying out this B'Cuzz Hydromix HP as a medium. For 30% more of the price of a bag of coco I get 5+ times the usuable volume of Hydromix (it comes in giant compressed cubes). It is a spaghnum moss and perlite mix. I've taken what would be almost two bags worth of coco off of the Hydromix cube and I've barely made a dent. So far I am treating it just like coco and my first round of plants in it just went into flower. Looks good so far.
Mammath
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Nice, I like to take them all cloudy.
Must be honest, I don't let them amber too much because that's on the down side of potency.
Not less, just different, ... I still like a bit of 'upidy' in my indys.
So I pick 'em cloudy.
What I love about coco is the shortened flush time.
I hardly flush at all in coco, 2 to 3 days most.
What's your theology with flushing in coco?
It really doesn't hold onto a lot of salts, like soil, in my world.
Jerry Garcia
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I think you explained it quite well. And it looks like you've got everything dialed in perfectly.
MarieJainLover
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just read like 75% of your journal, loved it, those buds are massive! As a result of ur chem tweaks and ph knowledge i suppose. should really update ur tags from newb to like.... general or something! props + rep
mared juwan
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Yea I like to see just a couple amber trichs. Like 5-10%. Flush for a week max. I use to not flush at all and that was cool too but the deficiencies associated with flush bring out the colors in the strains with that tendency so it makes for better bag appeal.
I think you explained it quite well. And it looks like you've got everything dialed in perfectly.
Thanks Jerry! I hope I covered everything.
Right on. I'm thinking about starting a new journal once these Green House girls are chopped. I ordered some Subcool/TGA seeds so that should be a nice starting point for a new J.
I also want to say on a completely non marijuana topic that for any video game players the new Madden is F*CKING SICK!!!! They didn't hype it with tv comercials so much this year so I didn't expect much but it is amazing! From the graphics to the way the players interact with eachother... unbelievable evolution of the game from last year. I just bought it this morning and played it for the 1st time (came out yesterday). Must buy for anyone who likes Madden. But in that case you probably already have it
mared juwan
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So pretty much you mean what smells the best, right? The smell is really the best gauge of potency I have right now. I would say it is still Great White Shark but White Rhino smells great too. GWS smells like sweet rotten mangoes when you put your nose to it but when you rub with your fingers it leaves a skunky diesel smell on them. White Rhino smell like a hashy pineapple and also leaves a bit of a skunky smell on the fingers but not as strong. Lemon Skunk also has that strong lemon candy smell and it looks like it's growing trichomes on top of trichomes at this point. All these smells are continually changing so it's really hard to say which will be funkiest in the end.
tomato worm
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Yeah, Mared got them from attitude. (page 95 of this grow thread) https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/67992-newb-closet-coco-grow-400w-95.html
Looks like he got the G13 freebees.
The Cannacopia stuff can be found at at The Hemp Depot.
http://www.hempdepot.ca/seeds/Cannacopia/BubbasKush.htm
http://www.hempdepot.ca/seeds/Cannacopia/BCRoadkill.htm
Recognize those pics on THD's site? Mr. Mared grows some DANK, no doubt about it.
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rawkus
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skitzo
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absolutely amazing! glad to see that lemon started to fattin up (still small imo but worthy)
i was skimming through, but did you say that you got the GWS and WR from Greenhouse Seeds? they look like promising yielders, thats why im asking.
p.s.
you didnt top the GWS or WR right? just a straight up cola?
buckd316
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ok man whats going on it was just getting to the good part. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jos5pOIQMQ4
mared juwan
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My bad dude..... I have other forums I belong to and sometimes I completely forget about journals for months at a time. Looks like we left off when the first round of GHS plants were still growing so a lot has happened since then LOL. Turns out Great White Shark was not really the best bud at all. It was fucking Lemon Skunk WTF?!?! The Lemon Skunk was most potent by far and the taste is some of the strongest I've ever grown.... but it doesn't taste like weed really. It tastes exactly like an apple. It's crazy, you can taste the peel in there and everything. The yield is shit but it is one of only three of the GHS strains I continue to grow. So here's some pics I've accumulated and also some final thoughts on these strains.
Lemon Skunk
Like I said very strong appley taste and potency is strong. Yield is on the slim side. Flowered 9 weeks.
Cheese
If you're expecting it to be like original UK Cheese then I suppose you will be disapointed but I take it for what it is and I really like it. Arjan says this strain is "original cheese" X "kush". That's pretty vague LOL. But there is a very strong kush flavor and the bud growth and appearance has kush traits for sure. I've never smoked this original/UK/exodus cheese but from what I hear it is more skunky/fuelly than cheesy in taste. Arjan's Cheese is actually cheesey but I find it quite enjoyable. This strain should be named Cream Cheese Kush. Potency doesn't match Lemon Skunk but yield is much better and the taste is stupendous. Complements the apple in the Lemon Skunk perfectly. I could alternate smoking those two all day. Flowered 8.5 weeks.
GWS
This one faked me out big time. It smells crazy skunky and fruity while growing but lost a lot of the power after chopping. The smell is still there when you touch the buds but it doesn't come through in the taste. It was dried and cured the same as the others. This is the third and final GHS that I kept growing just because what mild taste there is happens to be very nice and the large yield is needed to make up for my Lemon Skunk exploits. It is a bit of a step down from the LS and Cheese but I've come to expect that from large yielders. Flowered 10 weeks.
Trainwreck
This strain leaves me at a loss. Looks great but smells like a dead fish. Apparently this is the true Arcata cutting selfed to make seeds. I can't even smoke it. The taste is smell/taste is strong and reminds me of Pakistani food. Some of my friends can tolerate it but I pass on this one. Flowered 9.5 weeks.
White Rhino
I suspected this strain to be bland the entire time. Had a mild milky pineapple smell but never anything you would expect from a "medicinal" strain. It started to grow like a haze near the end and bag appeal is terrible. Tastes like it smells, very bland. Flowered 10 weeks.
I think that about sums up everything for the Green House grow. I think Lemon Skunk and Cheese are awesome. Great White Shark is nice to smoke but the yield is what really makes it worth while. Trainwreck is an acquired taste I guess but not for me. White Rhino a bit bland for my liking.
So three move on. Why only three? Have to make room
9 TGA/Subcool seedlings - 3 Vortex, 2 Jillybean, 2 Qleaner, 2 Chernobyl
mared juwan
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Thanks man. I forgot that I had some more cool pics saved up from Bubba Kush and BC Roadkill grows.
mared juwan
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The Bubba Kush and BC Roadkill are both Cannacopia strains. They're the best bargain beans I have found yet. $35 for a ten-pack of either strain. That Bubba Kush is the most potent strain I've grown so far. It gets you high for hours and the taste is unbelievable. Yield is low but the quality of bud is well worth it IMO.
