Schultz Bloom Plus why not for Bloom?

[GreenGiant81]

Ok I have been reading a number of threads, post, articles etc... in order to find a good cost efficient bloom nute. So I have ran across Schultz Bloom Plus which the company says it can be used in hydro. The NPK is 10-54-10 and here are the directions and label. NPK doesnt seem to bad when I compared to a number of Bloom forumals at the local hydro store which are over priced in my opinion.

http://www.schultz.com/NR/rdonlyres...BloomPlusPlantFood105410LABELFERTMAR045LB.pdf

Good idea or Bad idea on using? WHY?

 

[chitownsmoking]

you can use it to bloom bro its just sort of high in the nitrogen depo.

 

[GreenGiant81]

you can use it to bloom bro its just sort of high in the nitrogen depo.

optimally where should the nitrogen be around range wise?

 

[chitownsmoking]

like from zero to less then 5. though u do need some n. for early flower. you can use that nute man it will work pretty decent i would think. its just not the best

 

[Fallen Buckshot]

2.5-5 in flower as most bloom nutes have that

 

[chitownsmoking]

good luck to you jolly green giant

 

[GreenThumbSucker]

The numbers are not conducive to hydroponic growing AND it is not a complete fertilizer. You would have very serious micro-nutrient deficiencies.

If you try to be too cheap when it comes to fertilizer in hydroponics, your end results will will reflect it. You reap what you sow.

If you really need to go dirt cheap use dynagrow/dynabloom. It is cheap but complete, strong and liquid. Also the numbers are conducive to hydroponics. It is about 3 times stronger than most hydroponic fertilizer, so a gallon would go a looooong way.

http://hydrowarehouse.com/dynagro-dynagro-liquid-bloom-gallon-p-990.html

 

[Fallen Buckshot]

no fert is totally complete a good mix of nutes and micro nutes are favorable when you can get them/afford them

 

[chitownsmoking]

The numbers are not conducive to hydroponic growing AND it is not a complete fertilizer. You would have very serious micro-nutrient deficiencies.

If you try to be too cheap when it comes to fertilizer in hydroponics, your end results will will reflect it. You reap what you sow.

If you really need to go dirt cheap use dynagrow/dynabloom. It is cheap but complete, strong and liquid. Also the numbers are conducive to hydroponics. It is about 3 times stronger than most hydroponic fertilizer, so a gallon would go a looooong way.

http://hydrowarehouse.com/dynagro-dynagro-liquid-bloom-gallon-p-990.html

hay smart guy you have great vocabulary but did you bother to check out the actual fertilizer? it has micronutriants in it. greengiant u will be fine useing that bro. keep in mind its not the best but will work fine

 

[GreenThumbSucker]

hay smart guy you have great vocabulary but did you bother to check out the actual fertilizer? it has micronutriants in it. greengiant u will be fine useing that bro. keep in mind its not the best but will work fine

Yes, I did check it out and it is not a complete fertilizer nor are the numbers conducive to hydroponics (because it is garden fertilizer, not hydroponic fertilizer).

Like I said, you reap what you sow. I wouldnt use something that cheap in a dirt grow, let alone a hydroponic grow, but that is just me. Do an experiment, chitown, and do a schultz hydro grow journal, Im always up for a laugh.

 

[GreenGiant81]

Well im not trying to make enemies here just trying to figure out how to maximize what is cost efficient and nice quality. So why do you say its incomplete? Its says you can use this for hydro in the directions. The NPK are rather similar to a number of bloom ferts besides the nitrogen.

 

[Fallen Buckshot]

nah im saying no one fert will give you evrything .. i say use it and prove them its good stuff *i use jacks classic bloom booster sometimes and its basicly the same stuff 10-30-20 tho

i also add things like cal-mag and liquid karma and molasses lil extra somthin somethin

 

[GreenGiant81]

nah im saying no one fert will give you evrything .. i say use it and prove them its good stuff *i use jacks classic bloom booster sometimes and its basicly the same stuff 10-30-20 tho

Sorry didnt mean to quote you.. I really meant that for GreenThumb im just confused on his reasoning not to say he isnt valid just want a bit more insite.

 

[chitownsmoking]

Yes, I did check it out and it is not a complete fertilizer nor are the numbers conducive to hydroponics (because it is garden fertilizer, not hydroponic fertilizer).

Like I said, you reap what you sow. I wouldnt use something that cheap in a dirt grow, let alone a hydroponic grow, but that is just me. Do an experiment, chitown, and do a schultz hydro grow journal, Im always up for a laugh.

i like the cut if this guys jib. lol it says u can use it in hydro on the box so i think it can be done. i understand its not the best choice for it like i have stated many times

 

[GreenGiant81]

Yes, I did check it out and it is not a complete fertilizer nor are the numbers conducive to hydroponics (because it is garden fertilizer, not hydroponic fertilizer).

Like I said, you reap what you sow. I wouldnt use something that cheap in a dirt grow, let alone a hydroponic grow, but that is just me. Do an experiment, chitown, and do a schultz hydro grow journal, Im always up for a laugh.

so whats the difference micro nute wise between schultz and awesome blossom besides nitrogen? http://www.altgarden.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=150

or even Pure Flowers? besides nitrogen
http://www.altgarden.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=150

 

[Fallen Buckshot]

Sorry didnt mean to quote you.. I really meant that for GreenThumb im just confused on his reasoning not to say he isnt valid just want a bit more insite.

i think alot of these guys are brainwashed that only high $ hydro store nutes will get you quality smoke

 

[Fallen Buckshot]

so whats the difference micro nute wise between schultz and awesome blossom besides nitrogen? http://www.altgarden.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=150

or even Pure Flowers? besides nitrogen
http://www.altgarden.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=150

its got some humic acid and a few other minor minerals

 

[GreenGiant81]

its got some humic acid and a few other minor minerals

Do you think I will have major issues without a bit of humic acid or the minerals that are not available?

I have some episom and hygrozyme if that would help. Right now Im using GH 3 part micro grown and bloom solutions 3 weeks in flower. I just dont want to fall for all this branding crap.

Oh and I and working with Skunk #1 and Big Bud

 

[Fallen Buckshot]

"Do you think I will have major issues without a bit of humic acid or the minerals that are not available?"



lol nope it is a WEED so it should be fine

do a side by side test id like to see results of like Schultz vs other if ya dont mind

 

[GreenGiant81]

"Do you think I will have major issues without a bit of humic acid or the minerals that are not available?"



lol nope it is a WEED so it should be fine

do a side by side test id like to see results of like Schultz vs other if ya dont mind

Ok I will take pics and post so I will book mark this thread and post pics as the days go by. right now 3 weeks in so I will give it another 2 weeks before I switch over to the schultz brand