hello i got a question. and a rant

[DWR]

you all seem to get the wrong idea from this i think.
this is how it works put simply..

firstly you start it off (Veg as) you normally would your hydro
then once its time to flower it gets put outside to bud...

simple theres no transplanting in most cases. you just put the plant outside and give it some tlc and they finish.
this also helps empty your growroom andget more in too.

all i was saying is when you do this right you seem to get the best of both worlds.
as crackerjacks says theyre more complete.
in my tests we used the same mother plants and grew a 2 of each indoor, outdoor and the some that was started the same as the indoor but put outside to bud" this is what seemed to be the best in a general..

but like i said you gotta watch your timing if your unlucky and moveit outside like i said it wont know wether to flower or veg "this normally happens if you live somewhere sunny and hot in summer with hours coming close to what your hydro was getting for veg generally.

i got what u said from the first to last post.


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and sorry u got raided, sucks man Hope all gets back on track real quick, so u can do ya things u want stress free

 

[Jester88]

yeah me too
ive got some bushies starting as to my sitcho im in after being raided and caught.
i also gota letter from customs from nirvana seedbank.. i dont go there anymore or use a real name.....
so yeah im kinda limited to outdoor for a while .
i will post this method im on about sometime, when ever i can find the means too.. and ive finished paying off ma fines off and heat dies down... which sux

it sucks cos i used to just have a 400w hps and use that. it does the job hen you start indoor finish outdoor.
but the other day i scored a 1500w setup and a nice cloning setup (fluorescent lights + i could grow little plants about an oz each under with some minor changes ,

meaning i now have the means to do a kuta grow. but i cant :'(

""""i paid 4 sticks for the new lights pump chemicals and all i thought it was a bargain 4 sticks which is a bit over 6 grams atm Times Are Hard.....'''''


especially when i start inside finish out..
also i currently am residing at my mums house (im he carer atm) and she says i ant grow the hydro while im here. not even the indoor/outdoor method

but yeah ill still see if i can get it cranking sometime soon.... and i will post

oh yeah what also sux more... is that i got some jack herer, blueberry, shiva, white rhino, skunk and haze all at my disposal. but cant do anthing with..

and as for the law this is all i got to say
im full of shit everyone here said so so im going to agree with them and say i learnt my lesson.. i dont really grow and i never will again.... this is all a game im roleplaying like everyone else.. sorry cant remember who brought that one up

thanks DWR +1 rep to you.
and dont worry if i ever get the chance to do again ill post the pics. n let you know....
so you can see what im talking about..

P.S
i reread the first post and i see y people were sort of narky.. i wasnt puttin your grows down and calling them small. i was simply saying y does everyone do SOG or stick to smaller plants, then bitch about theyre yields.... ive said on a few posts they look nice and i meant it... i was just saying that im sick of people wrtiting i wish they got more of a yield.. when the actual fact of the matter is a lot of them are dyno for what they are.... some of the sog's are beautiful. but you know what your gonna get if you opt for this method before you start so yeah dont bitch about your yield. especially when most of them are fine or above average....

if its a space thing i was just asking y nobody else does this trick it works for me and my mates and its our favourit way to grow..

what i mean by it gives you the best of both worlds is.
i stand by my indoor outdoor stoned theory
and we all know its how you grow it that effects the end product as well.
so what im saying made clear is.
when me and my mates grow like this.. it generally gives you buds that still look like hydro if done right,
the stoned seems to hit harder than the stuff we done just as bush from the same mother.
and it hits the same hard as the hydro done from the same mother but seems to last longer.

thats all i was saying. i am amazed that nobody else here does this if most of theyre problems are a space issue..

i ha had a bad day and i was a bit of a prick about how i said shit im sorry for this but i still stand by what ive said

 

[panhead]

ive been reading a lot on this site and ive noticed this..

a lot of people grow little plants or do the sea of grean technique.
now to me this is a waste of time (im just wandering y u seem to think this is the way to go not meaning to sound rude).
y not grow one or two plants in the same space and growing them bigger. thus keeping your seed tin stocked and making less hastle. youd also have less to clone.
i realise this is easier when cloning from the one mother plant but still

another thing you dont see much of is weed started in the hydro and finshed in the bush. Y is this i have found that this is the best honestly...
i like the stoned better it seems to hit as hard and last longer... overall it just works better if done properly really.

i dunno its just heaps of ppl are complaining they dont get enough of a yield.
well i think its simple dont you. id just grow bigger plants

Wow how smart am i it took me a whole two seconds to think about it..

thank you
Jester

P.s sorry about this waste of a post. i just thought id join the new fad

check these out if you want they took me ages to find them all and post (dnt knowwhy tho
how to make hash videos

I used to grow monster plants now i grow small plants after i seen the light & realized why its better.

Your looking at it the wrong way.

You can grow 12 monsters in a room that will give up 4 ounces each give or take,that comes out to 48 ounces,the veg time will be 10 weeks & flower time 8 weeks,thats 18 weeks for 48 ounces,this method will have 3 harvests a year yeilding a grand total of 144 ounces.

Now you can take 100 plants in the same room,veg them for 2 weeks then straight to bud with a bud time of 8 weeks & yeild a half ounce per plant,now multiply that times 100 plants & you get 50 ounces,not that much more weed over your monster method but lets look farther,this method will allow for 5 full harvests a year compared to the 3 with growing monster plants,the SOG method will yeild 250 ounces per year.

Large plants = 144 ounces per year.

SOG= 250 ounces per year.

Its about the long haul my friend,at the end of the year you will be 106 ounces ahead & thats not small pickens.

 

[peach]

guys doing the big field grows in spain and south america will go for big bushes - i think everyone else here avoids it for the pot sizes and height, specially if it's sativas. it's doable, but some will end up stupidly tall, so you need a high ceiling room. then there's outdoor temperatures, which aren't great for a lot, bugs and snitch ass neighbours on the look out

 

[Jester88]

yeah i know about the yield side of things but doesnt anyone here like looking at big plants and getting a lot from 1 cutting/seed.

if its a space issue this makes that problem solved

also if you do it this way the outdoor result differs to what what panhead said even tho it is helpfull for indoors.

to panhead
remember the way im on abouty here is just vegin inside and flowerin outside which means your constantly growing and budding not just 3 times a year remember which im sorry to say becomesway obsolete here. the maTHS WORKS TO A GENERAL but remember were condtasntly flower and budding n growing and turning over.

sorry but everyone here seems to hatenew ideas. tisidea aint even new im just stating that it works

i only back and know this because his is the way i preffer to grow lol.,,,

 

[DWR]

Well your technique isnt a way of getting high quality buds, and also you are not in control of its enviroment, meaning rain, fog, hail... all that.

anyway, i'll give it a go this year. But the plants will be found by some young kids or some others and be chop'd.. or even worse i get chop'd


rather at home

 

[Jester88]

Well your technique isnt a way of getting high quality buds, and also you are not in control of its enviroment, meaning rain, fog, hail... all that.

anyway, i'll give it a go this year. But the plants will be found by some young kids or some others and be chop'd.. or even worse i get chop'd


rather at home

believe me you wont be sorry
this is a good way i wouldnt be asking y nobody else does this method or suggesting it..

if you can do it at home i can guarantee you can make it work....
but like i said all if you get the nack of it youll be producing bud with desirable traits from the indoor and outdoor grows..

its not hard (as long as you dont make it hard, you still want to maintain some control as well0
the only problems you can really come in contact with are these tahat i can think of

1: put outside at the wrong time (if the hours of light are too close mainly) the plant will go between bud and grow phases = BAD

2: even though its becoming an outdoorie take careof itas best you can still

3: make sure its veged in something you can put outside before you start growing, youll figure something out.

4: remember all seeds have a chance of being male you want to do this well. so you dont stress them too seed

its not hardyou got to be pretty dumb not to be ableto figure out a way to successfully do this all year ;P

when completed like i said you should get "bush that looks like hydro" and "mixes the good traits of bush/hydro" if done right.

try it you wont be disappointed if you do it right..
i come from oz so i can do it most times of the year. except the wrong times in a hot summer mostly. ;p
most places around the globe should have no problems anytime of the year really. depends on where you are
although you are growing it bush to finish it still needs the same shit to grow "dont treat it any less and itl be dardy"

p.s
as for the found thing
pick your spot well and make sure its well hidden from the eyes, and it still gets appropriate light

 

[CrackerJax]

Well I don't know where you live but if I want hydro looking plants I put a smaller strain in a 1 gallon pot and voila, a nice compact bud machine plant done entirely outside and complete in every way. I find the Buddha line to be very good for outdoor growing and achieving SOG with no inside work done at all.

I'm still trying to understand why you would start out in hydro...unless you live up north (which I don't). Maybe the yanks can get behind this one, I don't see the point down here.

Good Luck in any case.


out.

 

[SlikWiLL13]

okay, i think i understand what your tyring to say now. most of us live somewhere where theres only about 2 1/2-3 months of usable(temp-wise) 12/12 light outdoor. that means no matter what(short of autoflowering strains which DO NOT gow into trees) we can only flower one crop outside a year. i dont know if you can flower outside all year long where you live or if this is definitive proof that you dont know what your talking about, but its got to be one of the other.

 

[Jester88]

okay, i think i understand what your tyring to say now. most of us live somewhere where theres only about 2 1/2-3 months of usable(temp-wise) 12/12 light outdoor. that means no matter what(short of autoflowering strains which DO NOT gow into trees) we can only flower one crop outside a year. i dont know if you can flower outside all year long where you live or if this is definitive proof that you dont know what your talking about, but its got to be one of the other.

i come from oz (outside capabilities 24/7 365/366 days a year 366= leap year)

and i see what you mean now man i was thinkin there was a lot more countries with suitable light for this process... it should still work tho.
the reason we can flower all year long tho is at least 16 hrs a day of light for veg in the kit.

the reason for veging in the kit is because you can controll everything and make sure the plants are dyno before you take them outside.
this helps because you still want to take as much care of them outside as you can.
"this isnt a way of growing top quality hydro" if you want to call it anything id say your more to the growing of top class bush really, im serious because of the time and care it gets in the kit and because your looking after it still the bud will be put outside its grown well and i know over here in oz the buds finish and look exactly like hydro still.

im telling thetruth and as for the temps where you said it should be fine "remember its the change in light such as the kelvin theory, and how much light a daqy it gets

when you put the plants outside its basically like changing the settings in the kit for veg (except all you do is put it outside

if done correctly you should still be able to grow like this any time of the year no matter where you are. the only problem ive ever had is like i said the daylight hours sometimes come too close to the kits hours and it dont know wether to veg or flower. sometimes resulting in light stress and hermies or occasionaly males (we used feminized so hermy was generally theworst it really got.. migt have been from surrounding plants yet cant really tell i reckon it was the light tho.

this being said if you get fuck all light you shouldnt get this problem, making ity even easier to master this technique

its prolly gonna be a while before i can go back to this (even though its ma favorite way to grow..)

to crackerjacks
ive answered y i like to start in the kitbut to put it in a nutshell
if you start it in th kit and veg in the kit the plant seems to growbetter and get everything it needs (being in a controlled environment to start them seems to help a lot they love it..
because youve got them off to a good start if done right, when you go put them outside there these awsome plants that have had the best start and everything they need. when you take them out of the kit it kind of mimics the flower stages as to drop back in temp light all that stuff . then all you got to do is keep giving it nutrients every once and a while and the bud will finish off looking like hydro but with the more desirable traits of the two grows it you kow what i mean.

basically its so they get a good start. and you can grow them to as big as you want and healthy in the kit. (remember theyle double to trebble in size by the time theyre done.
this allows you to grow dyno and big plants all year round
i dont know when we started douing this nor exactly what inspired us to try it and figure out how to do it.
all i know is since we did it fast became our favorite grow method.
if the only problems come from what i think they came from a place with less light should have no problems at all really (just a bit of time to learn how to o it propperly and improve your technique.

as for the stolen comment
dont put them anywhere theyre going to be found
park the car somwhere and walk for 20 mins- half an hour
plant in a discreet spot where it getsd the light you thonk it will need but is well hiden.
besides if some young dickhead steals your weed it normally aint to hard to find out who
weve had a few stolen plants and found out where they went easily enough *(especially if you know what your buds looked like)


also i wont be able to post the indoor outdoor technique for a while but to show you the growing power of the outback i may be able to start a grow
bearing in mind that im about 3 months late to plant since i got raided and what not. but youl see what i mean i should still be able to get 4 good months of light even though im a few months late, just so you can see what i mean.

do youse really get so little light (my method should still just figure out a way that compliments your climate and light hours. itas like i said above

but yeah i like starting in the kit because i like the quality of the plant and bud that it makes by the final product is awsome like i said hydro like bush