American Wildfires

topcat

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Unless you destroyed that shit or can find a way to tap the ocean.
Another bad thing about desalinization is people won't learn if we continue to give them all the water they want. They'll just say "hey, I paid for it." Lawns (golf courses) are a huge waste of water. I gave up on them long ago because they are very labor intensive to keep up, in addition to the water they waste.
 

doublejj

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Firefighters are now being told to bring their own food and water........:mad:
Wildland firefighters heading to some of the country’s largest conflagrations will be faced with dwindling supplies in the coming weeks — including water, food and communications equipment — according to two memos issued this week by the National Interagency Fire Center and obtained by NBC News.
One memo instructs firefighters and incident management teams to bring a personal stash of food, water and other supplies to last them three days.
 

xtsho

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Firefighters are now being told to bring their own food and water........:mad:
Wildland firefighters heading to some of the country’s largest conflagrations will be faced with dwindling supplies in the coming weeks — including water, food and communications equipment — according to two memos issued this week by the National Interagency Fire Center and obtained by NBC News.
One memo instructs firefighters and incident management teams to bring a personal stash of food, water and other supplies to last them three days.
What the hell is going on? This bullshit just makes my blood boil and fills me with rage.

Feeding these fire fighters should be a priority. As should bumping up the wages they are being paid.

This is scary:

"A second memo warns that “due to the increased demand and numerous long duration fires,” communication equipment, including handheld radios and travel support, is “critically low.” As a result, firefighters should modify their attack plans by staying closer together, establishing a lookout and maintaining situational awareness."

In other words, they're sending men and women into rugged areas to fight fires and they're unable to provide communication equipment that might be needed to warn them to get the hell out. So they're basically telling them to have someone climb up in a tree to keep watch.

Bullshit. How the hell is this happening? People are going to die because of this fucking nonsense. Excuse my language but this just makes no fucking sense. All the resources we have and they can't even get these people a damn walkie talkie and some sat phones that might make the difference between life and death? And they're supposed to bring their own water? :wall:
 

hanimmal

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https://apnews.com/article/business-health-environment-and-nature-df00918794a277c9c7fd56a77b9d6871
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Included in the sweeping $1 trillion infrastructure bill approved by the Senate is funding for Western water projects that farmers, water providers and environmentalists say are badly needed across the parched region.

The Senate voted this week in favor of the legislation that seeks to rebuild U.S. roads and highways, improve broadband internet access and modernize water pipes and public works systems. The bill’s future in the House is uncertain.

The federal funding would come as the West bakes under a decadeslong drought that is straining water supplies.

A look at some ways the $8.3 billion for water projects would help bring relief in coming years.

WATER STORAGE

The plan would provide $1.15 billion for improving water storage and transport infrastructure such as dams and canals. Groundwater storage projects, which replenish underground aquifers that aren’t vulnerable to evaporation, would also get funding. Western states have for years over-pumped groundwater from wells during dry years, even causing land to sink in parts of California.

“California has to do more to store and otherwise stretch the use of water in wet years in order to have enough to sustain through the dry years,” said California Sen. Dianne Feinstein, a Democrat whose office helped get water provisions in the bill.

WATER RECYCLING

To help stretch existing water supplies, $1 billion would go toward projects that recycle wastewater for household and industrial use. Many states and cities already have or are developing programs that recycle storm water runoff and wastewater. The U.S. Bureau of Reclamation, which manages water, dams and reservoirs in 17 Western states, would decide which projects are funded.

DROUGHT PLAN

Prolonged drought, scorching temperatures and climate change are draining the Colorado River that supplies water to 40 million people and farmland in the West. The bill would provide $300 million for drought measures, such as conservation and storage projects, to maintain water levels at the river’s reservoirs and prevent additional water cuts.

Already, the first-ever shortage declaration at the river is expected next week. Some Arizona farmers will be among those to feel the effects next year.

DESALINATION

The bill would add $250 billion for studies and projects to make sea water and brackish water usable for agricultural, industrial and municipal use. Desalination plants send ocean water through filters that extract fresh water and leave behind salty water that’s often returned to the ocean. The technology is expensive but increasingly viewed as a critical way to supplement water supplies in drought prone areas.

DAM SAFETY

About $800 million would fund improvements and repairs at dams that are used for drinking water, irrigation, flood control and hydropower. Scores of dams across the U.S. are in poor or unsatisfactory condition, according to state and federal agencies. In 2017, damage at California’s Oroville Dam prompted evacuation orders covering nearly 200,000 people. Feinstein’s office recently said that California alone has 89 dams that are “in less than satisfactory condition.”

RURAL WATER

Another $1 billion would be dedicated for water projects in rural areas, where aging water treatment facilities and infrastructure are often in need of repair.

Taken together, the water projects funded by the infrastructure plan could make an impact in the West, said Dan Keppen, executive director of Family Farm Alliance, which lobbies for farmers, ranchers and irrigation districts.

“It’s sort of an all-of-the-above approach and that’s what’s needed,” he said.
 

Moldy

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The Dixie fire has been burning for a full month now. 530K acres burnt. Could be the largest fire ever in CA by now. We got heavy smoke 80-90% of the time near Reno. The Tamarack fire destroyed 40 or so structures 25 miles south of Carson City, pretty much contained now. Cal Fire just let that one burn for a week (locals really pissed off in Woodford and Markleeville) as no resources were available to knock it down it right away. The River fire east of Tahoe destroyed 140 structures but containment is 90%+ now. It's been getting worse every year now it's just the new normal. Fuck. In the early nineties I moved here with only a couple of days in the 100's all summer but now we're over 20 days in the 100's with two or three more days this weekend. Yuck.
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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The Dixie fire has been burning for a full month now. 530K acres burnt. Could be the largest fire ever in CA by now. We got heavy smoke 80-90% of the time near Reno. The Tamarack fire destroyed 40 or so structures 25 miles south of Carson City, pretty much contained now. Cal Fire just let that one burn for a week (locals really pissed off in Woodford and Markleeville) as no resources were available to knock it down it right away. The River fire east of Tahoe destroyed 140 structures but containment is 90%+ now. It's been getting worse every year now it's just the new normal. Fuck. In the early nineties I moved here with only a couple of days in the 100's all summer but now we're over 20 days in the 100's with two or three more days this weekend. Yuck.
I remember moving to Oakland California from Philly to go to school at UCBerk in the early 90’s and watched the Fire Storm rage down on the Berkeley Oakland Hills and also the drought and having to conserve water and I was like ... what the hell? Lol. This sucks.
 

mooray

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Some of it is a known and not really ambiguous, like if the funding goes towards the Delta Conveyance Project. Much of that is just more subsidized watering plants in the desert for privatized profits. Basically anything that isn't about efficiency isn't going to be good.
 

Cycad

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I'm going to move in another three years, probably. We moved to the countryside a year ago and our home is almost zero-carbon, but the summer temperatures are too much. This year has not been too bad, about 37C max, but sometimes we get to 44C and that's something I can't tolerate at my age.
 
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