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DIY-HP-LED

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COVID SCIENCE-More unvaccinated U.S. adolescents hospitalized; myocarditis may be rare vaccine side effect in teens (yahoo.com)

COVID SCIENCE-More unvaccinated U.S. adolescents hospitalized

June 4 (Reuters) - The following is a roundup of some of the latest scientific studies on the novel coronavirus and efforts to find treatments and vaccines for COVID-19, the illness caused by the virus.

COVID-19 hospitalizations up among U.S. adolescents

COVID-19 hospitalizations rose among U.S. adolescents in March and April, and nearly a third of those hospitalized needed intensive care, according to data from more than 250 hospitals in 14 states released by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) on Friday. "Rates of COVID-19-associated hospitalization among adolescents also exceeded historical rates of seasonal influenza-associated hospitalization during comparable periods," researchers reported in the CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report. The hospitals reported a total of 204 adolescents hospitalized for COVID-19 in March and April.

"Until they are fully vaccinated, adolescents should continue to wear masks and take precautions when around others who are not vaccinated to protect themselves, and their family, friends, and community," CDC Director Rochelle Walensky said in a statement on Friday. "I ask parents, relatives and close friends to join me and talk with teens about the importance of these prevention strategies and to encourage them to get vaccinated." (https://bit.ly/3ieKdxb)
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Myocarditis may be rare vaccine side effect in teens

Heart inflammation may be rare vaccine side effect in teens

Temporary heart inflammation may be a rare side effect of the Pfizer/BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine in teenagers, according to pediatricians who reported on seven cases from across the United States. The previously healthy adolescents - all boys - developed chest pain within four days after their second dose. MRI exams showed myocarditis, or heart muscle inflammation. "Fortunately, none of our patients was critically ill," the authors reported on Friday in Pediatrics. The boys' symptoms resolved "rapidly" with medication. Measures of cardiac status had returned to normal at check-ups performed after one-to-three weeks. Myocarditis is a known rare adverse event following other vaccinations, the authors noted. There is no proof, however, that the vaccine caused these cases. "So far, over 2.2 million teenagers (aged) 16-17 have already received 2 doses of Pfizer vaccine, and over 3 million kids 12-15 years old have received dose #1," said coauthor Dr. Judy Guzman-Cottrill of Oregon Health & Science University. "These are huge, very reassuring denominators." COVID-19 itself can cause myocarditis, she noted. "After looking at the risks and benefits, the data support getting kids vaccinated."

(https://bit.ly/3fOYm2d; https://bit.ly/3uLeQNi)
 

Budzbuddha

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China's COVID-19 vaccines don't appear to be effective at preventing outbreaks in the real world :wall:

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shocked not shocked


The World Health Organization recently granted emergency use approval to China's Sinopharm and Sinovac COVID-19 vaccines, but the countries that have put the Chinese-made vaccines in the arms of their residents are reporting mixed results, at best.

"In the Seychelles, Chile, and Uruguay, all of whom have used Sinopharm or ... Sinovac in their mass vaccination efforts, cases have surged even as doses were given out," The Washington Post reports. And in Bahrain, one of the first countries to embrace the Sinopharm shot, The Wall Street Journal adds, "daily COVID-19 deaths have leapt to 12 per million people in recent weeks — an outbreak nearly five times more lethal than India's — prompting the island nation's government to shut down shopping malls and restaurants in an effort to limit the spread."


"In Dubai, the most populous of the seven members of the UAE, the emirate's health authorities have also quietly begun revaccinating with Pfizer-BioNTech those residents who had been fully inoculated with Sinopharm," the Journal reports.

"Despite the concern about Sinopharm's effectiveness, experts say the vaccine still works as intended in most cases and that it could play a significant role in shortages of vaccine doses around the world," the Post reports. The WHO says it has a low level of confidence in the vaccine's effectiveness in older people, due to a lack of data.

A peer-reviewed study published May 26 found the Sinopharm vaccine was 78 percent effective against symptomatic illness, but the trial participants were mostly healthy young men, the Journal reports. "In a separate, unpublished, real-world study of Sinopharm in Serbia, 29 percent of 150 participants were found to have zero antibodies against the virus three months after they received the first of two shots of the vaccine. The average age of the people who participated in the Serbian study was higher than 65."

The alibaba of vaccines…
 

PJ Diaz

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Myocarditis may be rare vaccine side effect in teens

Heart inflammation may be rare vaccine side effect in teens

Temporary heart inflammation may be a rare side effect of the Pfizer/BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine in teenagers, according to pediatricians who reported on seven cases from across the United States. The previously healthy adolescents - all boys - developed chest pain within four days after their second dose. MRI exams showed myocarditis, or heart muscle inflammation. "Fortunately, none of our patients was critically ill," the authors reported on Friday in Pediatrics. The boys' symptoms resolved "rapidly" with medication. Measures of cardiac status had returned to normal at check-ups performed after one-to-three weeks. Myocarditis is a known rare adverse event following other vaccinations, the authors noted. There is no proof, however, that the vaccine caused these cases. "So far, over 2.2 million teenagers (aged) 16-17 have already received 2 doses of Pfizer vaccine, and over 3 million kids 12-15 years old have received dose #1," said coauthor Dr. Judy Guzman-Cottrill of Oregon Health & Science University. "These are huge, very reassuring denominators." COVID-19 itself can cause myocarditis, she noted. "After looking at the risks and benefits, the data support getting kids vaccinated."

(https://bit.ly/3fOYm2d; https://bit.ly/3uLeQNi)
Here's some more context to go along with your Yahoo article..



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..So basically what we're seeing here is that out of 250 hospitals they saw only 204 total adolescents being admitted for covid at a peak rate of .0021% hospitalization. Thanks for pointing out how unaffected kids are by covid.
 

PJ Diaz

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COVID SCIENCE-More unvaccinated U.S. adolescents hospitalized; myocarditis may be rare vaccine side effect in teens (yahoo.com)

COVID SCIENCE-More unvaccinated U.S. adolescents hospitalized

June 4 (Reuters) - The following is a roundup of some of the latest scientific studies on the novel coronavirus and efforts to find treatments and vaccines for COVID-19, the illness caused by the virus.

COVID-19 hospitalizations up among U.S. adolescents

COVID-19 hospitalizations rose among U.S. adolescents in March and April, and nearly a third of those hospitalized needed intensive care, according to data from more than 250 hospitals in 14 states released by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) on Friday. "Rates of COVID-19-associated hospitalization among adolescents also exceeded historical rates of seasonal influenza-associated hospitalization during comparable periods," researchers reported in the CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report. The hospitals reported a total of 204 adolescents hospitalized for COVID-19 in March and April.

"Until they are fully vaccinated, adolescents should continue to wear masks and take precautions when around others who are not vaccinated to protect themselves, and their family, friends, and community," CDC Director Rochelle Walensky said in a statement on Friday. "I ask parents, relatives and close friends to join me and talk with teens about the importance of these prevention strategies and to encourage them to get vaccinated." (https://bit.ly/3ieKdxb)
Here's some more fun facts from that same study your Yahoo article references (taken directly from the CDC website):

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DIY-HP-LED

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Here's some more context to go along with your Yahoo article..



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..So basically what we're seeing here is that out of 250 hospitals they saw only 204 total adolescents being admitted for covid at a peak rate of .0021% hospitalization. Thanks for pointing out how unaffected kids are by covid.
The post says of the 204 hospitalized with just 3 months of data, 1/3 required ICU admission and 5% required mechanical ventilation, not exactly unaffected, they didn't say how many were maimed for life though.

Children in Brazil Are Dying From COVID-19 at Alarmingly High Rates (businessinsider.com)

Children in Brazil are dying from COVID-19 at alarmingly high rates
May 17, 2021
  • Children are dying from COVID-19 in Brazil at higher rates than in the US.
  • Brazil recorded 832 deaths in children below 6, while the US had 241 deaths in kids of all ages.
  • Doctors told The New York Times the P.1 variant could be causing the higher death toll.
Children are dying from COVID-19 in Brazil at higher rates than in the US.

Of the 434,000 recorded COVID deaths in Brazil, 832 were children below the age of 6, The New York Times reported citing data from Brazil's health ministry.

In the US, 241 children have died from COVID-19 as of February 11, according to the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Children's Hospital Association. The group used state data for the analysis, and the age range for "children" varies among state to state.
 

PJ Diaz

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I thought the main reason to give it to kids is to reduce their transmission to other people.
That's only because it hasn't yet been proven otherwise, although it is clearly acknowledged that "children do not seem to be major drivers of transmission"..

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PJ Diaz

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The post says of the 204 hospitalized with just 3 months of data, 1/3 required ICU admission and 5% required mechanical ventilation, not exactly unaffected, they didn't say how many were maimed for life though.

Children in Brazil Are Dying From COVID-19 at Alarmingly High Rates (businessinsider.com)

Children in Brazil are dying from COVID-19 at alarmingly high rates
May 17, 2021
  • Children are dying from COVID-19 in Brazil at higher rates than in the US.
  • Brazil recorded 832 deaths in children below 6, while the US had 241 deaths in kids of all ages.
  • Doctors told The New York Times the P.1 variant could be causing the higher death toll.
Children are dying from COVID-19 in Brazil at higher rates than in the US.

Of the 434,000 recorded COVID deaths in Brazil, 832 were children below the age of 6, The New York Times reported citing data from Brazil's health ministry.

In the US, 241 children have died from COVID-19 as of February 11, according to the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Children's Hospital Association. The group used state data for the analysis, and the age range for "children" varies among state to state.
I can't speak to Brazil's issues, I live in the US. However your data seems to indicate that adults in Brazil are over 500 times more at risk of death from covid than kids are. Again, thanks for supporting my point.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Here's some more fun facts from that same study your Yahoo article references (taken directly from the CDC website):

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CDC director urges parents to vaccinate children - The Washington Post

CDC director urges parents to vaccinate children
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Rochelle Walensky on Tuesday urged parents to vaccinate their children now that federal officials have authorized the Pfizer-BioNTech shots for people as young as 12.

In testimony before a Senate committee, Walensky encouraged children to ask for the vaccine if their parents are hesitant. Experts have said vaccinating children may be necessary for the United States to reach herd immunity, a point at which the coronavirus would be much easier to contain.

Vaccines work
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PJ Diaz

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CDC director urges parents to vaccinate children - The Washington Post

CDC director urges parents to vaccinate children
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Rochelle Walensky on Tuesday urged parents to vaccinate their children now that federal officials have authorized the Pfizer-BioNTech shots for people as young as 12.

In testimony before a Senate committee, Walensky encouraged children to ask for the vaccine if their parents are hesitant. Experts have said vaccinating children may be necessary for the United States to reach herd immunity, a point at which the coronavirus would be much easier to contain.

Vaccines work
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Well of course she does. She had already decided way back in Nov of 2020 (before the covid shots were even released) that having a strong and robust vaccination campaign was crucial. Of course she's going to double-down on her position now:

 

DIY-HP-LED

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I can't speak to Brazil's issues, I live in the US. However your data seems to indicate that adults in Brazil are over 500 times more at risk of death from covid than kids are. Again, thanks for supporting my point.
You have no point, unless it's to convince people not to get vaccinated, argue with the director of the CDC about getting kids vaccinated. You are spending way too much time trying to convince people that the vaccines are unsafe and they or their children shouldn't get vaccinated. You are also fighting a losing battle and are on the wrong side of history, by all means don't get vaccinated, just wear a mask and try to keep it to yourself.

Hispanics and native north Americans are more susceptible to dying from covid and perhaps that helps explain some of the Brazilian data

From the post above, one child is too many:

In the US, 241 children have died from COVID-19 as of February 11, according to the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Children's Hospital Association. The group used state data for the analysis, and the age range for "children" varies among state to state.
 

PJ Diaz

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Meanwhile the latest VAERS data from the CDC shows "only" 5000 deaths and close to 4000 permanent disabilities associated with the covid jab. Coincidentally my buddy developed shingles last week, the day after the vax.Screenshot - 2021-06-04T184937.974.png
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Well of course she does. She had already decided way back in Nov of 2020 (before the covid shots were even released) that having a strong and robust vaccination campaign was crucial. Of course she's going to double-down on her position now:

She is following the science and the consensus of expert opinion, needing to be right is your thing, not hers. The head of the CDC recommends children be vaccinated, so does Dr. Fauci and so do all heath authorities world wide. They also all say CDC and Health Canada approved vaccines are safe and very effective.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Meanwhile the latest VAERS data from the CDC shows "only" 5000 deaths and close to 4000 permanent disabilities associated with the covid jab. Coincidentally my buddy developed shingles last week, the day after the vax.View attachment 4916543
Posting raw Vaers data again, this is not evidence and causation is not established. When 200 million people are vaccinated in 3 months shit happens, people get sick and people die from unrelated causes.
 

PJ Diaz

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She is following the science and the consensus of expert opinion, needing to be right is your thing, not hers. The head of the CDC recommends children be vaccinated, so does Dr. Fauci and so do all heath authorities world wide. They also all say CDC and Health Canada approved vaccines are safe and very effective.
Except that new info is coming out..

 
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