Police Interactions.

hanimmal

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COMPTON, Calif. (AP) — Authorities searched Sunday for a gunman who shot and wounded two Los Angeles County sheriff’s deputies who were sitting in their squad car — an apparent ambush that drew an angry response from the president and sparked an anti-police protest outside the hospital where the deputies were being treated.

The 31-year-old female deputy and 24-year-old male deputy underwent surgery Saturday evening, Sheriff Alex Villanueva said in a late-night news conference. Both graduated from the academy 14 months ago, he said.

The deputies were shot while sitting in their patrol car at a Metro rail station and were able to radio for help, the sheriff said. Villanueva, whose department has come under fire during recent protests over racial unrest, expressed frustration over anti-police sentiment as he urged people to pray for the deputies.

“It pisses me off. It dismays me at the same time,” he said.

The department tweeted video of the shooting that shows a person open fire through the passenger-side window of the patrol car.

“The gunman walked up on the deputies and opened fire without warning or provocation,” the department stated.

The video sparked thousands of reactions, including from President Donald Trump, who responded, “Animals that must be hit hard!”

“This cold-blooded shooting is unconscionable and the perpetrator must be brought to justice,” Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden tweeted. “Violence of any kind is wrong; those who commit it should be caught and punished.”

Protesters gathered outside the the hospital where the injured deputies were being treated.

“To the protesters blocking the entrance & exit of the HOSPITAL EMERGENCY ROOM yelling “We hope they die” referring to 2 LA Sheriff’s ambushed today in #Compton: DO NOT BLOCK EMERGENCY ENTRIES & EXITS TO THE HOSPITAL,” the sheriff’s department tweeted. “People’s lives are at stake when ambulances can’t get through.”

A radio reporter who was near the protest scene was taken into custody. The sheriff’s department later tweeted that the reporter interfered with the arrest of a male protester.

“The female adult, who was later identified as a member of the press, did not identify herself as press and later admitted she did not have proper press credentials on her person,” the department stated.

After being released, Josie Huang, a reporter for public radio station KPCC, tweeted that she had seen the statements from sheriff’s officials and had “thoughts and videos to share soon after a little rest.”

The executive editor of the station, Megan Garvey, expressed outrage over the arrest and said her reporter appeared to be wearing her credentials and had shouted her KPCC affiliation.

Meanwhile, the search for the gunman continued.

Capt. Kent Wegener said officers were blanketing the area in search of the suspect seen on the video opening fire with a pistol.

“We have a very, very generic description,” he said.

The incident happened around 7 p.m. a short distance from the Compton sheriff’s station south of downtown Los Angeles.

The U.S. Justice Department would assist sheriff’s investigators with “all federal tools available,” department spokesperson Kerri Kupec said on Twitter Sunday.

Protesters have railed against the LA Sheriff’s Department for weeks over recent shootings by deputies, including the killing of a man on a bicycle last month.

“Of course, there’s an important conversation going on about policing in this country, but these are folks who put their lives on the line for us, and we will find justice for them,” Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti said on CNN Sunday.

 

hanimmal

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The information on the Washington post website is interactive.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/police-shootings-database/?itid=hp-top-table-main
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In 2015, The Washington Post began to log every fatal shooting by an on-duty police officer in the United States. In that time there have been more than 5,000 such shootings recorded by The Post.

After Michael Brown, an unarmed Black man, was killed in 2014 by police in Ferguson, Mo., a Post investigation found that the FBI undercounted fatal police shootings by more than half. This is because reporting by police departments is voluntary and many departments fail to do so.

The Post’s data relies primarily on news accounts, social media postings and police reports. Analysis of more than five years of data reveals that the number and circumstances of fatal shootings and the overall demographics of the victims have remained relatively constant.


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Gdp1

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good advice. Man, the things your dads have to teach you as kids living in the city huh?

You're right that it's absolutely terrifying that the police have near absolute power over you, but coming from a perspective where I have seen lots of police injustice I support them over the criminals any day. I would rather 10 innocent people get hurt than let 100 criminals get away with what they do.

The second video lost me when it tried to make it about race. We can't know the situation without knowing what had happened there before, whether the area is predominantly white, what is the predominant style of dress, whether they had break ins with someone matching his description or not, etc.

I have had similar happen to me, many of my friends have as well. Once I was arrested on my street outside my house because the police thought I was someone else fleeing from a robbery. Wasted two hours of my time hancuffed sitting in the rain on a curb, but I never escalated things like this guy and the cops were pretty nice about it in the end, they are people just trying to do their jobs after all. IMO the trash guy was in the wrong, 100%. The cop was even right to keep his hand on his gun when dealing with another agitated man, he doesn't know what could happen.
Get the fuck outta here bitch ass .R u kidding me all he had to do was go inside and ask for management or someone incharge .That would be smart thing to do .Y harass someone who's break no law just picking up garbage .whats about the people on the side of the highway picking up garbage u want they I.D too .DO YOUR HOMEWORK FIRST .
 

Budley Doright

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So the mask thing is getting stupid. As much as I’m the mask police at work and get totally pissed if someone isn’t wearing it I’m not sure how I feel about this interaction. On one hand it’s an easy thing to do (wear a mask)and I’m thinking this was just another trumper standing up for some asinine right. On the other hand It does seem like there was social distancing happening, was a mask necessary in that situation? We’ve made it mandatory in our downtown core to now wear one and there are fines issued for non compliance BUT they don’t tazer you :(.
 

blu3bird

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So the mask thing is getting stupid. As much as I’m the mask police at work and get totally pissed if someone isn’t wearing it I’m not sure how I feel about this interaction. On one hand it’s an easy thing to do (wear a mask)and I’m thinking this was just another trumper standing up for some asinine right. On the other hand It does seem like there was social distancing happening, was a mask necessary in that situation? We’ve made it mandatory in our downtown core to now wear one and there are fines issued for non compliance BUT they don’t tazer you :(.
I'm torn on this police interaction too, I mean c'mon, is it that big of a deal to put the damn mask on? I feel like someone that refuses to wear a mask is being really selfish and basically saying FU to the rest of us that do wear masks

Another thing I've noticed about these police and mask videos, is that it always seems like they're singling out women. I've only seen a few videos like that one, but why don't the cops try bullying a man like that? I think that's what's more disturbing to me is that they seem to pick on lone women
 

blu3bird

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Also a side thought, if someone wants to be a cop, there should be physical standards. The cop in the video Hani posted looks like an overweight slob. How long do you think that cop will last in a physical confrontation before he's winded and ends up getting himself killed because he's out of shape and can't fight longer than 2 minutes?
 

hanimmal

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So the mask thing is getting stupid. As much as I’m the mask police at work and get totally pissed if someone isn’t wearing it I’m not sure how I feel about this interaction. On one hand it’s an easy thing to do (wear a mask)and I’m thinking this was just another trumper standing up for some asinine right. On the other hand It does seem like there was social distancing happening, was a mask necessary in that situation? We’ve made it mandatory in our downtown core to now wear one and there are fines issued for non compliance BUT they don’t tazer you :(.
The one thing that the police had said at the end of that statement was that the lady was not removed for not wearing a mask, she was removed for criminal trespassing after refusing to leave when the people that worked there asked her to.

Essentially she ends up being close (worse IMO) to the same response as George Floyd did when he ended up with a knee on his neck for over 9 minutes. I thought that it was a interesting comparison between this and Floyd's murder.

I'm torn on this police interaction too, I mean c'mon, is it that big of a deal to put the damn mask on? I feel like someone that refuses to wear a mask is being really selfish and basically saying FU to the rest of us that do wear masks

Another thing I've noticed about these police and mask videos, is that it always seems like they're singling out women. I've only seen a few videos like that one, but why don't the cops try bullying a man like that? I think that's what's more disturbing to me is that they seem to pick on lone women
There out there, but I think that there is something pushing to the algorithms to highlight the white women 'Karen' videos.
Also a side thought, if someone wants to be a cop, there should be physical standards. The cop in the video Hani posted looks like an overweight slob. How long do you think that cop will last in a physical confrontation before he's winded and ends up getting himself killed because he's out of shape and can't fight longer than 2 minutes?
It is interesting, I am positive that guy could have snatched that lady up and put her over his shoulder and walked her out if he was willing to take some claws int he face. I am all for a fit police force, and could see it being worthwhile to have a percent of their day dedicated to paid workout time (instead of doing paperwork) and proper nutrition provided (instead of grabbing a burger during their shift).

I was curious, looks like Logan Ohio has about 7k people, so it looks like they have about 14 full time police, and I am guessing a lot of downtime based on the numbers below.

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Fogdog

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I'm torn on this police interaction too, I mean c'mon, is it that big of a deal to put the damn mask on? I feel like someone that refuses to wear a mask is being really selfish and basically saying FU to the rest of us that do wear masks

Another thing I've noticed about these police and mask videos, is that it always seems like they're singling out women. I've only seen a few videos like that one, but why don't the cops try bullying a man like that? I think that's what's more disturbing to me is that they seem to pick on lone women
It's the Karen syndrome on full display in that video. It's not the cops or store personnel that are singling them out, what I think is happening is people are capturing them acting out on their cell phone cameras. Self entitled white bitches aren't used to being called out for inappropriate behavior and they wig out when told they have to follow the rules, same as you and me. I don't know about you but I've been repelled by that type since I was a kid. I've made myself odious to them too.

What is a 'Coronavirus Karen'?
The wearing of face coverings in this pandemic has been extremely politically charged in the US, with some insisting mandatory usage is an affront to personal liberty.

Since the coronavirus arrived in the country, videos have periodically gone viral on social media of people refusing to wear face coverings in stores and restaurants, often berating service staff.

Aggressively refusing to wear a face covering to help protect others from the virus has been seen as a new iteration of the stereotype of the entitled Karen who harasses service industry workers. Similarly, people who share coronavirus disinformation and conspiracy theories on social media are called Karens, too.

source:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-53588201


There are plenty of videos out there of coronavirus Kens too.
 

Fogdog

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Well, here we go again. Proud Boys and Patriot Prayer assholes are coming to Portland this weekend.

State troopers are going to be there because Portland Cops have dropped the ball.


Oregon governor sends state police to Portland for protests

Oregon Gov. Kate Brown declared a state of emergency Friday as she announced that state troopers and sheriff’s deputies would be sent to Portland through the weekend to help police, in the state’s largest city, monitor a weekend rally by the right-wing group Proud Boys and counter protests by liberal groups

From her statement, Kate Brown understands what's going on:

Ahead of the planned Proud Boys rally set for Saturday, Brown said she “is incredibly concerned about the increased risk of violence in Portland this weekend and the safety of all Oregonians.”

“Some people will be armed, with others ready to harass or intimidate Oregonians,”
Kate Brown said. “The pattern of these particular groups is clear, to intimidate, instigate and inflame.”

The City of Portland denied the protesters a permit but they are coming anyway. This time, with state police present, the Portland Police won't just look the other way when fascists move in on counter protesters. I hope to see a return to the practice of declaring a riot when fighting breaks out which then authorizes the police to clear the streets.
 

Fogdog

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Live updates show how this is being enforced:

LIVE UPDATES

11:30 a.m., Counter-protesters, Peninsula Park: Dozens of people started to arrive in opposition of the Proud Boys demonstration. Organizers of this event, namely PopMob PDX, have said they do not plan to march to Delta Park nearly three miles away.

Still, as counter-demonstrators started to gather at Peninsula Park, so did Portland police. State, county and local officials have said they will work two keep they groups apart. Multnomah County said officers confiscated a wooden shield from one person at the park. Homemade shields are a common sight at nightly protests organized by leftist groups.

11 a.m., Proud Boys, Delta Park: Several hundred people affiliated with Proud Boys have amassed in the park. Some demonstrators are carrying guns, baseball bats, magazine clips, knives or batons. Militia members armed with different types of weapons are also posted throughout the park. One asked to check the credentials of Oregonian/OregonLive journalists.



There it is again. Officers confiscated a wooden shield from a counter protester while Proud Boys show up armed to the teeth " carrying guns, baseball bats, magazine clips, knives or batons." and even have a person checking press credentials. No mention of police confiscating weapons from fascists. Its infuriating.

Image of fully armed and armored Proud Boy with an anti-taser shield:

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Meanwhile, Multnomah police website shows the "terrifying" shield they took from an anti fascist:
 
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hanimmal

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Live updates show how this is being enforced:

LIVE UPDATES

11:30 a.m., Counter-protesters, Peninsula Park: Dozens of people started to arrive in opposition of the Proud Boys demonstration. Organizers of this event, namely PopMob PDX, have said they do not plan to march to Delta Park nearly three miles away.

Still, as counter-demonstrators started to gather at Peninsula Park, so did Portland police. State, county and local officials have said they will work two keep they groups apart. Multnomah County said officers confiscated a wooden shield from one person at the park. Homemade shields are a common sight at nightly protests organized by leftist groups.

11 a.m., Proud Boys, Delta Park: Several hundred people affiliated with Proud Boys have amassed in the park. Some demonstrators are carrying guns, baseball bats, magazine clips, knives or batons. Militia members armed with different types of weapons are also posted throughout the park. One asked to check the credentials of Oregonian/OregonLive journalists.



There it is again. Officers confiscated a wooden shield from a counter protester while Proud Boys show up armed to the teeth " carrying guns, baseball bats, magazine clips, knives or batons." and even have a person checking press credentials. No mention of police confiscating weapons from fascists. Its infuriating.

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The fact that they felt it was necessary to say 'leftist' is all I need to see to know that you guys have something seriously wrong with your policing out there.

That dude is wearing a body cam too. Dear Leader needs his propaganda to scare the suburbs with, and it looks like Trump's cultists are hoping tonight Trump can get his campaign back on track right in time for the debates on Tuesday. Que up a few mentally impaired homeless people or a few of their goons to dress in black and cause violence or set something on fire and they will get all they want for Trump's next ad.
 

Fogdog

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The fact that they felt it was necessary to say 'leftist' is all I need to see to know that you guys have something seriously wrong with your policing out there.

That dude is wearing a body cam too. Dear Leader needs his propaganda to scare the suburbs with, and it looks like Trump's cultists are hoping tonight Trump can get his campaign back on track right in time for the debates on Tuesday. Que up a few mentally impaired homeless people or a few of their goons to dress in black and cause violence or set something on fire and they will get all they want for Trump's next ad.
It's going to be a hot night in Portland. Again.

They have a few more months under Trump's protection. 2021 is when we'll start to take our streets away from fascists menacing the good people of Portland.

I like what one of the leaders in the counter demonstration said:

In May 2017, self-described neo-Nazi Jeremy Christian stabbed three people on the train, killing two of them, a racist incident that rocked the city. The day before, Christian had harassed a Black woman named Demetria Hester on the train. But Hester told police she did not believe police took her claims seriously because of her race.

She said the attacks were a wake-up call, a sign that “white supremacy is just below the surface.”

On Saturday she plans to face off with men she described as racist who believe many of the same things as her attacker. She sees it as a moral obligation.

“This ain’t the first time they’ve come to our town. Or the second, or the third. The whole summer they’ve been here,” Hester said. “We literally run them out — and we have to keep running them away. They’re just out there for destruction, to see what they can cause.

“We have a goal to let them know that we’re not going anywhere and they’re not going to intimidate us.”


 

hanimmal

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It's going to be a hot night in Portland. Again.

They have a few more months under Trump's protection. 2021 is when we'll start to take our streets away from fascists menacing the good people of Portland.

I like what one of the leaders in the counter demonstration said:

In May 2017, self-described neo-Nazi Jeremy Christian stabbed three people on the train, killing two of them, a racist incident that rocked the city. The day before, Christian had harassed a Black woman named Demetria Hester on the train. But Hester told police she did not believe police took her claims seriously because of her race.

She said the attacks were a wake-up call, a sign that “white supremacy is just below the surface.”

On Saturday she plans to face off with men she described as racist who believe many of the same things as her attacker. She sees it as a moral obligation.

“This ain’t the first time they’ve come to our town. Or the second, or the third. The whole summer they’ve been here,” Hester said. “We literally run them out — and we have to keep running them away. They’re just out there for destruction, to see what they can cause.

“We have a goal to let them know that we’re not going anywhere and they’re not going to intimidate us.”


It is horrible that that lady had to go through that, but you can't help but love her clear headedness to the issue and strength of her response.
 
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