Nancy Pelosi Once Again Bails Out a GOP President Facing a National Crisis

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Love the title. So, I'll repeat it

Nancy Pelosi Once Again Bails Out a GOP President Facing a National Crisis




Twelve years after she put together the TARP, the Speaker negotiated a major legislative response to the coronavirus.

Pelosi spoke instead with Trump’s Secretary of the Treasury, Steven Mnuchin, nearly 30 separate times as they hammered out a deal.

Through it all, the speaker did not speak with the president once. Asked at a late-night Friday press conference if they had talked, Pelosi looked almost shocked that anyone might think so. “There was no need for that,” she said.




Trump supporters should feel free to comment without criticism.
 
Trump supporters should feel free to comment without criticism.
Oh yea?
No criticism?
The party is over for me, because I have been biting my tongue, relatively, over the past few years from actually calling a specific person out for being a fool, or a cretin or a retarded motherfucker or a fucking asshole & or a dummy or a bane on mankind for their support of Trump.
Those fucking day's are over.
Come on all you witless scumbag Trump supporters.
Let's dance :)
 
Oh yea?
No criticism?
The party is over for me, because I have been biting my tongue, relatively, over the past few years from actually calling a specific person out for being a fool, or a cretin or a retarded motherfucker or a fucking asshole & or a dummy or a bane on mankind for their support of Trump.
Those fucking day's are over.
Come on all you witless scumbag Trump supporters.
Let's dance :)
I said they could feel free to comment without criticism.

The can feel free to do anything they want, just like you and me. ;-)
 
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Pure Capitalism at it's finest hour.

 
Pure Capitalism at it's finest hour.




Anonymous tracked this guy and even posted the location of his storage locker that he had his stash in.
 
The can feel free to do anything they want, just like you and me. ;-)
Yup, this is a Democracy & a Nation founded with a guarantee of free speech.
Let them speak their minds & continue too blather about how Trump is such a great leader/person, that's their right.
But all I'm saying is that in my case, is that the gloves are off & I'm also going to use my right as a citizen to call them out, now, for their BS with a vengeance.
No more Mister Nice guy here.
Fuck 'em
 
Yup, this is a Democracy & a Nation founded with a guarantee of free speech.
Let them speak their minds & continue too blather about how Trump is such a great leader/person, that's their right.
But all I'm saying is that in my case, is that the gloves are off & I'm also going to use my right as a citizen to call them out, now, for their BS with a vengeance.
No more Mister Nice guy here.
Fuck 'em
Will you be accountable for wishing actual death upon your fellow citizens over a political difference.
Despite all your hyperbole that is indeed all it is.
There have been other who espoused death to their political rivals over the years........why you wanna be in that group of fascistic communistic socialists defies belief at times.
You seem so intelligent and to have actual compassion............wish I could understand the hate.
 
Love the title. So, I'll repeat it

Nancy Pelosi Once Again Bails Out a GOP President Facing a National Crisis




Twelve years after she put together the TARP, the Speaker negotiated a major legislative response to the coronavirus.

Pelosi spoke instead with Trump’s Secretary of the Treasury, Steven Mnuchin, nearly 30 separate times as they hammered out a deal.

Through it all, the speaker did not speak with the president once. Asked at a late-night Friday press conference if they had talked, Pelosi looked almost shocked that anyone might think so. “There was no need for that,” she said.




Trump supporters should feel free to comment without criticism.

I like someone smart and young doing the right things.

 
Will you be accountable for wishing actual death upon your fellow citizens over a political difference.
Despite all your hyperbole that is indeed all it is.
There have been other who espoused death to their political rivals over the years........why you wanna be in that group of fascistic communistic socialists defies belief at times.
You seem so intelligent and to have actual compassion............wish I could understand the hate.
I don't wish death on anyone, except when Trump finally dies (hopefully soon) I will pop a cork.
I grew up watching Republican's lying out of both sides of their mouths forever & Americans & others die as a result.
So, too make myself clear, yea, I fucking hate Trump supporters, but I do not wish upon them death.
The World would be a better place without them though in my opinion.
 
Will you be accountable for wishing actual death upon your fellow citizens over a political difference.
Despite all your hyperbole that is indeed all it is.
There have been other who espoused death to their political rivals over the years........why you wanna be in that group of fascistic communistic socialists defies belief at times.
You seem so intelligent and to have actual compassion............wish I could understand the hate.
a trumptard against hate

How fucking cute
 
I like someone smart and young doing the right things.

I love it.

Do it. I'm all for the policies. Got to win, though. 72% to 13%

The rhetoric is hilarious:

"You have a choice, either let profit-driven corporations destroy our future, or instead vote to reclaim this country for the people."

Baloney detection kit, fallacy of logic 14, excluded middle, or false dichotomy — considering only the two extremes in a continuum of intermediate possibilities

Personally, I don't favor that kind of baloney rhetoric but he's not ever going to be my rep. SF can do what it wants.

If he wins, I'll expect the Democrats in Congress representing Oregon to work with him on issues they agree upon, such as campaign finance reform. I suppose the Cult of Sanders will find reasons to be upset that Pelosi has gotten important legislation through Congress to help people through these times. They never were very sharp. But will take the aid given to them, on that we can be certain.

But really though, too funny that mentioning good work by Pelosi draws this response.
 
Will you be accountable for wishing actual death upon your fellow citizens over a political difference.
Despite all your hyperbole that is indeed all it is.
There have been other who espoused death to their political rivals over the years........why you wanna be in that group of fascistic communistic socialists defies belief at times.
You seem so intelligent and to have actual compassion............wish I could understand the hate.
Pelosi held Trump accountable though.
 
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House Democrats passed a $2.2 trillion coronavirus relief bill Thursday over intense GOP opposition, even as bipartisan talks between House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin continued.

The legislation, which passed 214 to 207, has no chance of advancing in the Republican-led Senate and is opposed by the White House. But it’s been nearly five months since the House passed the $3.4 trillion Heroes Act, which also went nowhere in the Senate. So with the House set to recess Friday through the election, Pelosi (D-Calif.) acceded to demands from moderate Democrats who wanted to take new action to address the toll of the coronavirus pandemic before heading home to campaign for reelection.

“This is not just a money debate and a language debate. It’s a values debate. It’s important for people to know that what this fight is about,” Pelosi said on the House floor ahead of the vote. “The people have needs, and we have to meet them.”

Republicans railed against Pelosi for advancing a bill that has no chance of becoming law, accusing her of playing politics instead of trying to strike a bipartisan deal. And even though it was largely pressure from moderate Democrats, some in tough reelection races, that persuaded Pelosi to reverse course and put the bill on the floor, 18 mostly centrist Democrats voted “no” on the legislation Thursday, with some expressing frustration that they were voting on a bill that was headed nowhere instead of an actual deal.

“Today’s package is another partisan exercise that will never become law — just as the Heroes Act never received a single vote in the Senate, let alone reached the President’s desk,” freshman Rep. Abigail Spanberger (D-Va.) said in a statement. “The American people are exhausted by empty promises and government dysfunction.”

But even as the highly partisan debate was underway on the House floor, behind the scenes Pelosi was, in fact, working to try to strike a bipartisan deal with Mnuchin. The two spent the day trading phone calls and offers, and although Pelosi said they remained far apart on some issues, the negotiations were continuing and appeared to be getting into some granular details, such as specific language on a coronavirus testing plan, and whether and at what level Republicans could agree to a refundable child tax credit sought by Democrats.

“We’re going back and forth with our paper and conversations,” Pelosi told reporters at the Capitol late Thursday. Asked about the odds of reaching a deal, she replied: “I don’t know, it just depends. We’ll see.”

Pelosi and Mnuchin renewed their bipartisan talks only this week, after negotiations collapsed in early August. Congress has passed no coronavirus relief legislation into law since four bills in the spring totaling some $3 trillion, and chances of getting a new deal before the election have been looking exceedingly low.

But the fact that Pelosi and Mnuchin are now trading offers in earnest appears to suggest there’s some hope of success. Even if they do manage to clinch a deal, however, the White House would still have to sell it to Senate Republicans, who have been highly skeptical of any legislation over $1 trillion.

Mnuchin went into the talks with Pelosi with a $1.62 trillion offer, the White House confirmed Thursday — a sum the speaker still views as too low. But there are a number of areas of overlap between the legislation the House passed Thursday and Mnuchin’s offer, including small-business assistance and a new round of $1,200 stimulus checks. The two sides both support enhanced unemployment aid, though Pelosi’s bill has $600 a week compared to Mnuchin’s proposal at $400.

The two sides are also circling agreement on some $75 billion for coronavirus testing and tracing, while working on specific language on how it would work. Pelosi is still holding out for more state and local aid than Mnuchin has agreed to.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has sounded skeptical about a new deal, but in an interview on Fox News Channel late Thursday he said he would evaluate any agreement the House speaker and treasury secretary come up with.

“If they can reach an agreement I will take a look at it and see whether I can sell that to Senate Republicans,” McConnell said.

The legislation the House passed Thursday is a slimmed-down version of the $3.4 trillion Heroes Act from May, including many of the same provisions, but with time frames shortened to reduce costs. In addition to money for stimulus checks, small businesses, unemployment insurance, and coronavirus testing and treatment, it also has aid for election security and the Postal Service, and assistance to airlines that are up against a deadline to furlough workers, among many other provisions.

The closed-door negotiations between Pelosi and Mnuchin stood in contrast to public finger-pointing by both sides Thursday that appeared almost to forecast defeat and preemptively assign blame.

At the White House, press secretary Kayleigh McEnany confirmed that the administration had offered Pelosi an approximately $1.6 trillion package — much higher than many congressional Republicans would be able to support — but said Pelosi was “not interested.”
“Nancy Pelosi is not being serious. If she becomes serious, then we can have a discussion,” McEnany said.

For her part, Pelosi criticized the GOP’s proposals as too stingy, contending that the administration is focused on protecting tax breaks for the wealthy instead of help for families and children in need.

“This isn’t half a loaf; this is the heel of the loaf,” Pelosi said on Bloomberg TV of the White House proposal.

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Even as Pelosi was criticizing the White House plan for not going far enough, some Republicans were suggesting it went too far.

Rep. Kevin Brady (Tex.), the top Republican on the House Ways and Means Committee, expressed concern on Fox Business about numerous provisions under consideration, including the amount of unemployment aid and aid for state and local governments. Brady said some help is necessary for the airline and restaurant industries but it is not clear at what cost.

“The worry is: ‘How much wasteful spending will we have to swallow to do this?’” Brady said. “I do think we need some targeted help. The question is: Is the 500 or 700 billion dollars that’s really needed — is the other $1 trillion on top of it so wasteful that we can’t do that? We don’t know that yet.”

In the opinion of some Republicans the unprecedented $3 trillion stimulus Congress agreed to in March and April was more than enough and there’s no need to do more.

But Mnuchin, along with other leading policymakers, including Federal Reserve Chair Jerome H. Powell, have consistently argued that more stimulus is needed amid signs that the recovery is slowing. Much of the stimulus approved in the spring has expired, unemployment remains high, and layoffs are on the rise.

The number of people claiming unemployment rose slightly, to 26.5 million, and Americans’ income dropped in August along with the expiration of emergency federal aid programs. Disney announced 28,000 layoffs earlier this week, and major airline companies have indicated tens of thousands of layoffs are possible in coming days without additional federal help. American Airlines has announced it will move forward with furloughing 19,000 workers, citing inaction in Congress.
 
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