Deficiency, light burns or both?

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ubluntu

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Efbespn said:
I'm a bit confused with this. So with my RO water it's ph tested at 6.5, company says its 7.0 on the bottle. Not sure if my ph tester is off, should I or should I not PH my RO water?
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It's the stuff in your water that can have a slight effect on Soil pH not the water itself. The more stuff the greater the effect. Which is likely the casue in the first place, too high PPM in the roots, acidification, calmag lockout and nute burn.
Tap water has hardness that is typically more alkaline substance like calcium and magnesium carbonates. It's harder to change hard waters pH because that stuff acts as a buffer. It will have more inpact on rasing the soil pH. RO will have no effect becasue it's just water
 
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Efbespn

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Bernie420 said:
You should water in epsom salt at 1 tsp per gal for three waterings and add microbes to the first watering and then use microbes once a week just a little bit and dont wait till they dry out do it today. You can just add a quart of this and it isnt going to hurt the fact that you just watered them.

When you have microbes in there you really dont need to give a rats ass about ph but its nice to check and water in at 6.5 so you dont give the plant a ph shocker.

Start that now then feed on the third watering with the epsom salt then water water feed. water water feed, microbes once a week. Then get some calmag and use that once week at 2ml per gal. also.

Whats es300??

is that a led light? are you using an led light ? It looks like it to me a little raise it up a foot. Raise the light slow the grow let them heal is one of the first things a grower needs to know. You cant be trying to over drive a sick plant so from now on till chop raise it up one foot. Why is that one plant in the corner still green? Is it because it isnt directly under the led light ? Move the pots around and rotate them to get even coverage.

When you say 1400 ppms is that a run off reading or is that what you are feeding it ?? Cuz that too hot. I would feed at 650 from now on if you were feeding it 1400. If its a run off 1400 it wouldnt be a big deal if you had microbes working for you.

Thats what I think you should do then leave them alone. And maybe add a potassium product by itself at 250 ppms during a watering time.
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Thank you for your input Bernie420, 1400 ppm is the run off. Will definitely be within the 650 range from now on. I have some Impello tribus original I could use in the microbes department. Will throw some into the mix on this watering. Big ups Bernanothajoint
 
Renfro

Renfro

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Bernie420 said:
Heres the deal you have an led light and you need to up the mag. It isnt ph and you need to add microbes. And if your feeding at 1400 you burnt up some of your roots more than likely.
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Actually it's calcium that LED growers sometimes require more of. At the pH he is at it's wouldn't uptake anyways. Feeding at a PPM of 1400 doesn't "burn" roots.
 
Bernie420

Bernie420

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Efbespn said:
Thank you for your input Bernie420, 1400 ppm is the run off. Will definitely be within the 650 range from now on. I have some Impello tribus original I could use in the microbes department. Will throw some into the mix on this watering. Big ups Bernanothajoint
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Right on Your not saying that your going to feed it and flush it down to 650 ,correct?? measuring the run off ppm is not necessary at all
 
Renfro

Renfro

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Efbespn said:
Thank you for your input Bernie420, 1400 ppm is the run off. Will definitely be within the 650 range from now on. I have some Impello tribus original I could use in the microbes department. Will throw some into the mix on this watering. Big ups Bernanothajoint
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Tribus Original is what I use, I love the stuff.

I multiply it to make it go farther.
 
Bernie420

Bernie420

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Renfro said:
Actually it's calcium that LED growers sometimes require more of. At the pH he is at it's wouldn't uptake anyways. Feeding at a PPM of 1400 doesn't "burn" roots.
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He doesnt have a calcium problem. But calcium is important. He actually has a mag problem.
 
Bernie420

Bernie420

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Efbespn said:
Thank you for your input Bernie420, 1400 ppm is the run off. Will definitely be within the 650 range from now on. I have some Impello tribus original I could use in the microbes department. Will throw some into the mix on this watering. Big ups Bernanothajoint
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Whats an es300 is that a lexus?

And you are running an led light right?

yeah you used up all the mag from the plants with the led being only 24 inches away. no microbes thats the problem
 
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Efbespn

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Bernie420 said:
Right on Your not saying that your going to feed it and flush it down to 650 ,correct?? measuring the run off ppm is not necessary at all
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No not saying that. Haha. Will just water with the tribus added. Of course keep the good habit of checking my Ph and ppm though. Ill definitely, be following you guys guidelines for future watering.
 
Bernie420

Bernie420

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Efbespn said:
No not saying that. Haha. Will just water with the tribus added. Of course keep the good habit of checking my Ph and ppm though. Ill definitely, be following you guys guidelines for future watering.
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do you have an led light? how big is it?
 
Bernie420

Bernie420

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Efbespn said:
No not saying that. Haha. Will just water with the tribus added. Of course keep the good habit of checking my Ph and ppm though. Ill definitely, be following you guys guidelines for future watering.
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gets some epsom salt
peace
 
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Efbespn

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Bernie420 said:
Whats an es300 is that a lexus?

And you are running an led light right?

yeah you used up all the mag from the plants with the led being only 24 inches away. no microbes thats the problem
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Hahaha . Yeah does sound like a lexus. It's the Electric sky es300 from the green sunshine company.
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Renfro

Renfro

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Bernie420 said:
He doesnt have a calcium problem. But calcium is important. He actually has a mag problem.
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Never said he had a calcium problem. Magnesium won't uptake when the pH is too low so until thats corrected he could throw a shitload of epsom salt at it with no results.
Efbespn said:
First watering since flush is tonight when my lights turn on. No Epsom Salts till the following water after this and just the tribus or should I start using the Epsom salt on this watering
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The plant is starved because of the pH lockout so feed it as you are bringing the pH up, this way you will see the plant react.
 
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Efbespn

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Renfro said:
Never said he had a calcium problem. Magnesium won't uptake when the pH is too low so until thats corrected he could throw a shitload of epsom salt at it with no results.

The plant is starved because of the pH lockout so feed it as you are bringing the pH up, this way you will see the plant react.
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Will do! Will more than likely just water with ro and tribus and give it a couple days to see if they have taken any residual nutes from the flush left behind and then move on from there with feeding 1/4 strength on the nutes.
 
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