Our Next Housing Bubble Is Here..

Compared to buying a used car, depreciation on a new car the moment it is driven off the lot wipes out any benefit in low interest rates. Then again, buying a new car isn't a financial decision for most. Once one decides they want a new car then I guess shopping for the best interest rate and price makes sense.
yep, u lose a huge amount when u drive it off the lot. But then again you should not have to spend a cent on it (except for services if they are not included in the purchase price) for 4 or 5 years. Newer cars can also be allot better on fuel.

If someone is looking at borrowing money on a used car then they should look into the costs of a new one.
 
I just sold my 88 pickup and 02 Jetta and bought a 92 pickup instead. Paid 1400 for it, which is a steal. Turned around and listed it for 4000 just to see if I got any bites and got swarmed. I’m keeping it though, it’s a good work truck

I sold the 88 pickup for 1200 because it didn’t pass emissions even though it ran great. The guy o sold it to turned around and sold it for 2200 the next week

Now I’m shopping around for corollas under 1000 just so I can have something to drive whenever I decide to do improvements to the truck. It’ll need new leaf springs soon, I should fix the power steering, I’m sure some engine work is in its future too

The point here is to only ever buy toyotas
My Toyota Town ace has over 400,000ks on it. Toyotas are great.
 
I bought a leftover 2017 Mustang.

It was dramatically discounted and I got them down $1100 more. I can get a 4% loan at my credit union for a new car but they wouldn't accept a 2017 as a new car so Ford financed it in a heartbeat.

I always wanted a convertible so I got one.

It's a car you can only drive about 75 days a year, a luxury like a boat. A retirement toy.

Financial sense doesn't really apply. Lol.
But I don't have any other payments so I splurged. I love fresh air at 65 mph.
Ya well I get the toy thing as you can see by the picture of my boat, or otherwise know as the money pail :(.
 
yep, u lose a huge amount when u drive it off the lot. But then again you should not have to spend a cent on it (except for services if they are not included in the purchase price) for 4 or 5 years. Newer cars can also be allot better on fuel.

If someone is looking at borrowing money on a used car then they should look into the costs of a new one.
That’s where they trap you lol. I’m cheap but I know that the money I save buying used is way more, even with repairs, then payments on a new one at x3 the price. Mind you I take months to find one and they typically last 6-10 years before it’s a pain to keep it going and trusting it. I came real close to buying new this time but just couldn’t bring myself to be committed to a $400 a month payment for 6 years :(. There is nothing like jumping into a new car though, been there a couple of times when I was young and not good at math lol.
 
the housing bubble was created by sub-prime lenders lending monies people couldn't afford to pay back- teacher salary in a McMansion.
 
the housing bubble was created by sub-prime lenders lending monies people couldn't afford to pay back- teacher salary in a McMansion.
I'm a user of no doc loans, which I believe you call sub prime loans.
I'm a classic example of who these loans are targeted at. Sole traders who on paper don't earn very much money.
The loans are not the problem its stupid people not knowing what they can and cannot afford to pay back.

I used to do a little bit of Finance and Insurance on new/used motorbikes and used cars when I was in that trade and the amount of people who don't even ask what their repayments are going to be or what the interest rate is, is astounding. House hold finance should be part of the school curriculum IMO.
 
That’s where they trap you lol. I’m cheap but I know that the money I save buying used is way more, even with repairs, then payments on a new one at x3 the price. Mind you I take months to find one and they typically last 6-10 years before it’s a pain to keep it going and trusting it. I came real close to buying new this time but just couldn’t bring myself to be committed to a $400 a month payment for 6 years :(. There is nothing like jumping into a new car though, been there a couple of times when I was young and not good at math lol.
our last family car , 99 Subaru Forrester GT lasted us about 15 years. Last 5 years was costing us some $$ and wasn't as reliable as what we needed it to be. Was a fantastic car though. Looked at used and the cheaper end of new and the repayments on new was surprising. 1% Comparable finance rate with fixed price servicing sold me.

Im looking at a used one for myself as mine get knocked around a bit. 460,000klms on my Toyota ATM. Looking at a older $6kish Hi ace or Hilux. Hard to find a good one at that price where im at though.
 
I'm a user of no doc loans, which I believe you call sub prime loans.
I'm a classic example of who these loans are targeted at. Sole traders who on paper don't earn very much money.
The loans are not the problem its stupid people not knowing what they can and cannot afford to pay back.

I used to do a little bit of Finance and Insurance on new/used motorbikes and used cars when I was in that trade and the amount of people who don't even ask what their repayments are going to be or what the interest rate is, is astounding. House hold finance should be part of the school curriculum IMO.


The stupid people? How about the predatory lending? Talking folks into a non-stated 'for now'.seemed sketchy and those brokers lost both their homes and
 
our last family car , 99 Subaru Forrester GT lasted us about 15 years. Last 5 years was costing us some $$ and wasn't as reliable as what we needed it to be. Was a fantastic car though. Looked at used and the cheaper end of new and the repayments on new was surprising. 1% Comparable finance rate with fixed price servicing sold me.

Im looking at a used one for myself as mine get knocked around a bit. 460,000klms on my Toyota ATM. Looking at a older $6kish Hi ace or Hilux. Hard to find a good one at that price where im at though.
Yes it is hard your right. Just went through that. The issue here is bodies not lasting unless you wash it every time you drive it and get it rust proofed which helps. I set a limit of 6g’s and didn’t waver from going over that.
 
The stupid people? How about the predatory lending? Talking folks into a non-stated 'for now'.seemed sketchy and those brokers lost both their homes and
yep, stupid people.
I agree predatory lending is a thing, like its always been. The selling of anything has a tendency to be predatory.
"Would you like fries with that?"
 
It’s the people that want more than they can afford mostly that get into trouble. But yes they fall into the trap of lenders throwing money at them knowing it could ruin their life.
yep, stupid people.
I agree predatory lending is a thing, like its always been. The selling of anything has a tendency to be predatory.
"Would you like fries with that?"

a fair amount of americans have bad credit.

FICO Score Range

Percentage of U.S. Consumers

Percentage With Lower Scores

800-850

20.7%

79.3%

750-799

19%

60.3%

700-749

17.1%

43.2%

650-699

13.2%

30%

600-649

10%

20%

550-599

8.5%

11.5%

500-549

6.8%

4.7%

300-499

4.7%

N/A

700+ is considered good credit.
 
a fair amount of americans have bad credit.

FICO Score Range

Percentage of U.S. Consumers

Percentage With Lower Scores

800-850

20.7%

79.3%

750-799

19%

60.3%

700-749

17.1%

43.2%

650-699

13.2%

30%

600-649

10%

20%

550-599

8.5%

11.5%

500-549

6.8%

4.7%

300-499

4.7%

N/A

700+ is considered good credit.
And who’s fault is this bad credit score? I’m really interested in your opinion. From what I’ve seen in my limited circle of friends it’s their fault for the most part. They’ve overextended themselves, having access to easy money, buying shit they really didn’t need.
 
And who’s fault is this bad credit score? I’m really interested in your opinion. From what I’ve seen in my limited circle of friends it’s their fault for the most part. They’ve overextended themselves, having access to easy money, buying shit they really didn’t need.

Agreed. Most people I know are completely irresponsible with their credit.

Also, it's 3am and I'm up ready to leave for work and some fat drunk lady was parked in my driveway, I politely told her I have to leave for work and she has to leave. She's parked down the road in a ditch now lol.
 
And who’s fault is this bad credit score? I’m really interested in your opinion. From what I’ve seen in my limited circle of friends it’s their fault for the most part. They’ve overextended themselves, having access to easy money, buying shit they really didn’t need.

It's also lower if you borrowed money from yourself (401k) and paid yourself back.

Not to mention that they get names confused and have things on your report you didn't even borrow.

My wife's report had her buying a house in 2014. Total bullshit. Found out trying to open an online social security account through 3rd party verification service to verify identity they use. Which is also ridicuIous.

And why does your credit score go down if you apply to 6 different places shopping for rates. Seen that too. Do they think you're taking all 6 loans?

And then there's ID theft.

There's a lot of things that affect credit scores, and for $5.99 a month to each credit service, they'll let you try to repair their mistakes.

Aren't there enough scams out there?
 
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