Financing Medicare for All

Fogdog said:
What's he DONE? Named two post offices and gotten a few federal buildings converted to solar heating.

What he's done as a Senator is written in the congressional record. The other stuff is moonlighting, maybe infuencing others but nothing more than that. A Senator is one of the most powerful people in this country and you say his moonlighting is his best work. Maybe he should quit the Senate and become a political activist. He should let somebody who wants the job be a Senator who can get things done that directly affect the lives of millions of people.

You've headed off on a tangent and I want to bring you back. You said that Bernie's healthcare bill is the same as campaign promises. I just want to sit and laugh at you for a while. Also laugh at you for getting all wet in the shorts about Bernie's fight with Walmart when he could be working on real legislation in the Senate.

Also laughing at your last line. I never said that. Again, petulant child, you are angry and making shit up. It's a juvenile way of talking. It doesn't look good on a 30+ year old man.
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I'm not here for entertainment. I'm not here to try to 'own' you, or to respond when you 'own' me..
 
Padawanbater2 said:
You said Sanders can't get anything done. So far, as a US Senator, he's achieved more than the president, and garnered enough publicity to make slave wages an issue in regards to Walmart and McDonalds, at the expense of the Trump administration who continues to boast about unemployment numbers. Where are all the corporate Democrats in line that say those numbers are inflated? Or that the employment number is not the only qualifier for a good economy?

You're letting bad Democrats get away with arguing for a good economy under a Republican president when it isn't good for the working class at all..
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Are you that unhappy with your Walmart wages, Curtis?
 
DaFreak said:
I am bias because I lived half of my life in a social capitalist country and now living in America it's just sad. It's dog eat dog. And I have never seen a people despise their neighbors more. The government can't do anything for us till we change ourselves. I am not convinced this culture has it in it to be honest. And it's such a F'd up paradox, Americans love to give to charities, go fund me this, vial that, and yet they don't want to give people universal healthcare.

Big pharmacy still is profitable in countries that are sane and dictate the price for everything, and they rape Americans up the arse and we smile and say, "more please." Completely socialize medicine, make it a goal in 30 years, built the infrastructure and screw big pharmacy, their time getting fat off of Americans is over.

Never gonna happen. We are too stupid.
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If you don't like it in the USA, you can always go back to your social capitalist country.
 
Padawanbater2 said:
I'm not here for entertainment. I'm not here to try to 'own' you, or to respond when you 'own' me..
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Then stick to facts, quit making shit up and stick to what I'm saying, not what you want me to say so that you can "win".

You started this conversation with the claim that Bernie's healthcare legislation is the same as other candidates campaign speeches. I merely came out with an explanation that a bill submitted to Congress is not the same as a campaign pledge. I beg your pardon if the facts offended you. OK, I admit I wasn't nice about that also that I laughed at your childish posts. It just seemed appropriate given how you post up lies and call other people idiots for saying so.
 
UncleBuck said:
Which fascist nation will you go back to?

Turkey? Saudi Arabia? North Korea?.russia?
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That makes NO sense. How could you possibly believe I live anywhere else than the best country on Earth, America! I'm from a military family and so I don't like hearing people diss America if your actually living here.
 
Fogdog said:
I merely came out with an explanation that a bill submitted to Congress is not the same as a campaign pledge.
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You don't like how Sanders sells it

It's not about how, or why. It's, to you, about "I cry!", cuz you're in an old white privileged position the majority of us aren't in, and have to fight to contend for..
 
Fogdog said:
That's not what I said. Is this how you get off? Make up what other people say and then argue with that?
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How does Wikileaks expose you if you're not doing anything wrong? What'd Wikileaks do wrong again? They tattled on you for doing shady shit you supported you shouldn't have been doing in the first place..

Stop being fake about it. Lets get it out in the open..

Don't deny it, it just makes you look way worse..
 
DaFreak said:
So what have you done to free yourself of this evil? Most of the people I see making those arguments don't do anything, they live in society, use all the infrastructure made by thieving while making their arguments on the net. It's hypocrisy at it's best.

Meanwhile they cry about paying taxes on land....which was stolen from Indians in the first place so start your argument there. You are in possession of stolen property my friend...give it back.

I've actually read your argument before, interesting site on it, a movement that never got off the ground and never will, but it's better than being an EMO I guess. What was the name of the movement?
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So far you haven't made an argument or refuted mine though.

IF, I were to use your lame attempt at an argument where you defend theft, I could say it was okay for a white genocidal government to tax Indians because they provided them a "service" by placing them on Reservations etc.

So, are you going to admit that theft is still theft even if the thief alleges he's giving some kind of service?
What makes it theft is the interaction isn't on a mutual and voluntary basis. I've actually seen your argument before, it's lame and contradictory.
 
DaFreak said:
I am bias because I lived half of my life in a social capitalist country and now living in America it's just sad. It's dog eat dog. And I have never seen a people despise their neighbors more. The government can't do anything for us till we change ourselves. I am not convinced this culture has it in it to be honest. And it's such a F'd up paradox, Americans love to give to charities, go fund me this, vial that, and yet they don't want to give people universal healthcare.

Big pharmacy still is profitable in countries that are sane and dictate the price for everything, and they rape Americans up the arse and we smile and say, "more please." Completely socialize medicine, make it a goal in 30 years, built the infrastructure and screw big pharmacy, their time getting fat off of Americans is over.

Never gonna happen. We are too stupid.
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You are confusing real charity with forced redistribution.

I sure hope you don't make the same mistakes in your love life and that you know the difference between rape and consensual sex.
 
Padawanbater2 said:
How does Wikileaks expose you if you're not doing anything wrong? What'd Wikileaks do wrong again? They tattled on you for doing shady shit you supported you shouldn't have been doing in the first place..

Stop being fake about it. Lets get it out in the open..

Don't deny it, it just makes you look way worse..
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LOL

Are you saying that truth cannot be twisted into something that isn't real? As in, "Clinton used the DNC to rig the election". Which is simply not true.

Tell me again what nefarious acts did the DNC do on Clinton's behalf that caused only black and women voters to turn away from Bernie? I keep asking you that question and you keep dodging it. Your theory hinges on white male superiority. Just own it if you think it's true.
 
Fogdog said:
He must say shit like that off the top of his mind and post without thinking.

"If they didn't do anything wrong, why were people bothered by it?"

"If Clinton didn't have Seth Rich killed, then who did?
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Yeah, every now and then I read some of his posts when he starts his Socrates-with-a-brain-injury questioning dialogue with somebody like he did yesterday. The minute I see him start stroking his chin in my mind I just start to mentally ignore everything in green. My tolerance for intellectual dishonesty has gotten very low lately.
 
Padawanbater2 said:
How does Wikileaks expose you if you're not doing anything wrong? What'd Wikileaks do wrong again? They tattled on you for doing shady shit you supported you shouldn't have been doing in the first place..

Stop being fake about it. Lets get it out in the open..

Don't deny it, it just makes you look way worse..
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You seem to be in favor of Wikileaks but you cry to the mods when I release embarrassing personal information about you without your permission

Make up your mind curtis
 
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