Financing Medicare for All

So far you haven't made an argument or refuted mine though.

IF, I were to use your lame attempt at an argument where you defend theft, I could say it was okay for a white genocidal government to tax Indians because they provided them a "service" by placing them on Reservations etc.

So, are you going to admit that theft is still theft even if the thief alleges he's giving some kind of service?
What makes it theft is the interaction isn't on a mutual and voluntary basis. I've actually seen your argument before, it's lame and contradictory.
Name one tax you have paid without consenting to it first
 
If you don't like it in the USA, you can always go back to your social capitalist country.

And this is exactly my point. Americans have too much pride..Highest fetal death rates the developed world and they say, "go back to your country," instead of having any introspect.
 
That makes NO sense. How could you possibly believe I live anywhere else than the best country on Earth, America! I'm from a military family and so I don't like hearing people diss America if your actually living here.

You prefer people to "diss" America who have never lived here? That makes no sense, that's as silly as somebody who hasn't lived in many places declaring that their place is the best.

I am the proud son of a Vietnam draft dodger, smart enough to know that sometimes being a soldier is not the patriotic thing to do.
 
You prefer people to "diss" America who have never lived here? That makes no sense, that's as silly as somebody who hasn't lived in many places declaring that their place is the best.

I am the proud son of a Vietnam draft dodger, smart enough to know that sometimes being a soldier is not the patriotic thing to do.
I don't like to hear anyone diss America. A lot of other countries like too, but a lot of that is jealousy. If you live here you have a choice. it's America, Love it or Leave it.

My father was drafted and instead of running away, he signed up for an extra year on the spot. That's something to be proud of.
 
Volunteering for pointless wars is retarded.
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I don't like to hear anyone diss America. A lot of other countries like too, but a lot of that is jealousy. If you live here you have a choice. it's America, Love it or Leave it.

My father was drafted and instead of running away, he signed up for an extra year on the spot. That's something to be proud of.

My dad was a decorated WW II veteran who served in the South Pacific from spring 1942 until early 1945 when he had enough points to cycle out.

When I was in HS, he said 'if this Vietnam bullshit is still going on after your junior year, you're going to live with your aunt in Nova Scotia for your senior year.'

He knew what patriotism was all about, volunteered after Pearl Harbor. There was no Pearl Harbor that started Vietnam. And other kids were coming home in boxes.

For what?
 
My dad was a decorated WW II veteran who served in the South Pacific from spring 1942 until early 1945 when he had enough points to cycle out.

When I was in HS, he said 'if this Vietnam bullshit is still going on after your junior year, you're going to live with your aunt in Nova Scotia for your senior year.'

He knew what patriotism was all about, volunteered after Pearl Harbor. There was no Pearl Harbor that started Vietnam. And other kids were coming home in boxes.

For what?
Ya, I agree that we shouldn't of gotten involved in Vietnam, but we did. My grandfather was in WWII and Korea also, so I can respect your dad. I would of wanted to keep you out of that shit too if I was your father, and would of tried to get my son to go to Nova Scotia too if that was an option. Mine is 16 now.
 
Ya, I agree that we shouldn't of gotten involved in Vietnam, but we did. My grandfather was in WWII and Korea also, so I can respect your dad. I would of wanted to keep you out of that shit too if I was your father, and would of tried to get my son to go to Nova Scotia too if that was an option. Mine is 16 now.

In WW II there were a lot of brothers serving their country. When other brothers were killed, they would locate the surviving brother and send him home.

They didn't want families wiped out. I was my father's only son.
 
In WW II there were a lot of brothers serving their country. When other brothers were killed, they would locate the surviving brother and send him home.

They didn't want families wiped out. I was my father's only son.
I know that is cool they did that, but I thought they did that in Vietnam too.
 
Works for us in Australia. We also have a PBS so the majority of medicines are also subsidized.

But then we also have a Min wage tribunal and our lowest paid workers just got a pay rise....
 
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He challenged Jim Crow laws by putting himself on the line during the civil rights movement. He called out a homophobe on the Senate floor in 1993 for derogatorily referring to homosexuals who put their lives on the line serving in the military "Homo's". Fuck Duke Cunningham. He spent time in the Soviet Union during an exchange program that mutually benefited both countries in the early 90s.

Sanders supports an anti-war, anti-democratically elected regime change foreign policy, coupled by a protected first amendment that protects whistleblowers
 
What do you expect him to have done?

Lay out your expectations, lets see if Sanders meets them

Let's also go with Jeff Merkley or Ron Wyden, you seem to be fond of your state's Senators. What have they "DONE"?
Ron Wyden, a Senator with 23 years in offoce, introduced or sponsored 55 bill that were enacted into law. How many do you want to talk about?

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/browse?sponsor=300100#enacted_ex=on

There are some important pieces of environmental protection legislation in there.

Merkley has been a Senator for only 9 years compared to Bernie's 16 years. He has sponsored or introduced 6 measures during that time that became law.

Which ones do you want to talk about?

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/browse?sponsor=412325#enacted_ex=on

Both Oregon's senators are busy in Washington doing the work for the people of Oregon and the US.

What kind of idiot is happy with a Senator who does practically nothing in their role as Senator? You, apparently
 
He challenged Jim Crow laws by putting himself on the line during the civil rights movement. He called out a homophobe on the Senate floor in 1993 for derogatorily referring to homosexuals who put their lives on the line serving in the military "Homo's". Fuck Duke Cunningham. He spent time in the Soviet Union during an exchange program that mutually benefited both countries in the early 90s.

Sanders supports an anti-war, anti-democratically elected regime change foreign policy, coupled by a protected first amendment that protects whistleblowers
FWIW

Your desperation is palpable and you've stopped saying anything meaningful. We may resume discourse some day but for now, don't expect me to reply to more of your delusions about Bernie.
 
Ron Wyden, a Senator with 23 years in offoce, introduced or sponsored 55 bill that were enacted into law.
To confirm, within your retarded mind, those who have the most bills enacted into law are the most successful. It's a numbers game.. Quantity over quality

 
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