bernie sanders is fucking crazy

[tangerinegreen555]

RT?

Do better.

No, Obama did not cut Medicare and Medicaid.

You are making my case for you being a closet Republican by quoting Republican right wing propaganda. A simple fact check yields the bent logic that because the ACA reduced Medicare and Medicaid COSTS, Obama therefore "cut Medicare and Medicaid". That was Romney's bullshit campaign crap you just quoted via RT.

Fact Check: Obamacare’s Medicare Cuts
By Kate Pickert @katepickertAug. 16, 2012
http://swampland.time.com/2012/08/16/fact-check-obamacares-medicare-cuts/
The idea, however, that the Affordable Care Act struck a dangerous blow to Medicare that will change the program in fundamental ways is untrue. Under the new law, Medicare will remain a wildly popular, public single-payer health insurance system that provides comprehensive coverage to millions of Americans.

We'll have to get a ouija board and have a seance some night, see if we can locate the pre-2016 tty.

I have a few questions for historical research.

 

[abandonconflict]

A labor activist with no job...

I'm going to call him a labor inactivist.

 

[tangerinegreen555]

Mr Obama himself said he governed to the right of Ronald Reagan.

Any sober examination of his record in office supports that contention, especially when one examines his fiscal policies.

Dwight Eisenhower governed far to the left of any Democrat since the Reagan administration, also easily verified.

If you don't like that characterisation I don't know what to tell you, other than that maybe you're a bit confused by Trump's dramatic style vs Obama's characteristic cool.

Obama beat Hillary in the primaries in 2008 even though she had the same advantages she used to dispose of Bernie in 2016.

So he must be more popular than Bernie. I guarantee he could get the vote out better.

As a life long true Democrat, I can appreciate that.

Thanks Obama!

 

[ttystikk]

Obama beat Hillary in the primaries in 2008 even though she had the same advantages she used to dispose of Bernie in 2016.

So he must be more popular than Bernie. I guarantee he could get the vote out better.

As a life long true Democrat, I can appreciate that.

Thanks Obama!

Maybe, but did he help the middle class prosper?

No. Instead, he presided over the greatest upward redistribution ifof weal in human history.

That's not the behavior of a liberal. It's exactly what we've come to expect from Republicans.

 

[TacoMac]

Maybe, but did he help the middle class prosper?

You mean other than 30 million of them having health care when they didn't before and another 20 million being reinstated after the previous conditions clause was eliminated?

Or maybe ending the war in Iraq and bringing home several hundred thousand troops?

Or maybe it was increasing the pay of those troops 4 times as well as their health care.

Or maybe it was signing Wall Street reform, credit card accountability and disclosure and outlawing predatory lending.

Or maybe you're thinking about leading the country out of the greatest financial crisis since 1930.

I could go on and on...

 

[Fogdog]

Maybe, but did he help the middle class prosper?

No. Instead, he presided over the greatest upward redistribution ifof weal in human history.

That's not the behavior of a liberal. It's exactly what we've come to expect from Republicans.

Bernie set out his campaign strategy to beat Hillary by running against Obama's record. He ran on half-truths, such as a thousand seats were lost by Democrats to Republicans and then said it was because of Obama's failure. The crap you posted above is representative of that too. Half truths are propaganda. Otherwise known as a sneaky lie. Your kind simply keep those sneaky lies going. Now, you are out there saying that Obama cut Medicare and his policies were to the right of Reagan.

Nobody with half a mind will believe that. Sanders has not done anything meaningful during his 12 years as Senator so he can't run on his record, So he tears at Obama in the attempt to make himself look better. Also, from a very practical point of view, Sanders can't win by tearing at Obama because he alienates black Democratic voters who know better. Sanders is toast already and his campaign hasn't even gotten off the ground.

The stuff are posting now comes from Putin's propaganda service. I didn't believe it at first but you've convinced me that Sanders IS getting help from Putin.

 

[ttystikk]

You mean other than 30 million of them having health care when they didn't before and another 20 million being reinstated after the previous conditions clause was eliminated?

Or maybe ending the war in Iraq and bringing home several hundred thousand troops?

Or maybe it was increasing the pay of those troops 4 times as well as their health care.

Or maybe it was signing Wall Street reform, credit card accountability and disclosure and outlawing predatory lending.

Or maybe you're thinking about leading the country out of the greatest financial crisis since 1930.

I could go on and on...

Led which country out of the financial crisis? Richistan?

Have a look around, fool- the other 80% of America hasn't seen a damned bit of that 'recovery'.

 

[ttystikk]

Bernie set out his campaign strategy to beat Hillary by running against Obama's record. He ran on half-truths, such as a thousand seats were lost by Democrats to Republicans and then said it was because of Obama's failure. The crap you posted above is representative of that too. Half truths are propaganda. Otherwise known as a sneaky lie. Your kind simply keep those sneaky lies going. Now, you are out there saying that Obama cut Medicare and his policies were to the right of Reagan.

Nobody with half a mind will believe that. Sanders has not done anything meaningful during his 12 years as Senator so he can't run on his record, So he tears at Obama in the attempt to make himself look better. Also, from a very practical point of view, Sanders can't win by tearing at Obama because he alienates black Democratic voters who know better. Sanders is toast already and his campaign hasn't even gotten off the ground.

The stuff are posting now comes from Putin's propaganda service. I didn't believe it at first but you've convinced me that Sanders IS getting help from Putin.

It's amazing how you keep bashing the most popular sitting politician in America, even though he stands for everything you say you do.

Just another establishment Democratic hypocrite.

 

[Fogdog]

It's amazing how you keep bashing the most popular during politician in America, even though he stands for everything you say you do.

Just another establishment Democratic hypocrite.

You've lost it. Reagan was better than Obama? You will say anything any lie to pretend Sanders is great.

 

[potroastV2]

It's amazing how you keep bashing the most popular during politician in America, even though he stands for everything you say you do.

Just another establishment Democratic hypocrite.

Yep, and that's much better than being a corporatist, republican shill ...

Like you are.

 

[Fogdog]

Dwight Eisenhower governed far to the left of any Democrat since the Reagan administration

Thanks for the new sig line, tty

 

[ttystikk]

You've lost it. Reagan was better than Obama? You will say anything any lie to pretend Sanders is great.

No, clown, I said Obama admitted he governed to the right of Reagan.

Can't you use the quote function?

 

[ttystikk]

Thanks for the new sig line, tty

Feel free, it's perfectly true.

The only Democrat in living memory to advocate for a 70% top tax rate is AOC. Your Lord and Savior Obama sure as hell didn't.

 

[ttystikk]

Yep, and that's much better than being a corporatist, republican shill ...

Like you are.

Lol- well that explains the quality of moderation here.

You are very confused- or brainwashed. If the best you can do is call progressives 'Republican shills' then I'm not the one who's lost my way.

Watch more Fox News, it seems to agree with you.

 

[Fogdog]

Feel free, it's perfectly true.

The only Democrat in living memory to advocate for a 70% top tax rate is AOC. Your Lord and Savior Obama sure as hell didn't.

It's so hopelessly false nobody can even come close to believing that. Ike was a moderate Conservative. He raised taxes to build roads and oversaw a balanced budget several times. He didn't cooperate with McCarthy yet he did nothing for the people McCarthy ran down and gutted. He never advocated something as socially progressive as Obamacare. He was a moderate Conservative and the radicals in today's GOP don't like him very much. So, if they don't like him, then I do. But he was still more conservative than Obama. Obama was a moderate liberal progressive. He got shit done too.

I'm just now recognizing why you and your kind are tearing at Obama. Sanders, the do nothing Senator has no accomplishments to tout in his bid for the President. All he can do is try to diminish Obama's record.

Don't make me dislike Cortez. I think she is OK. She hasn't done anything yet but she's only been in Congress for a month or so, most of that time the government was shut down. So she gets a pass until she finishes her first term. In my opinion, a 70% tax on people making more than $10 million should be justified by more than a call for fairness, but it's not going anywhere either. It's just another symbolic measure that your kind likes. For myself, I support the accomplishment wing of the Democratic Party and find little use for that kind of showmanship.

 

[ttystikk]

It's so hopelessly false nobody can even come close to believing that. Ike was a moderate Conservative. He raised taxes to build roads and oversaw a balanced budget several times. He didn't cooperate with McCarthy yet he did nothing for the people McCarthy ran down and gutted. He never advocated something as socially progressive as Obamacare. He was a moderate Conservative and the radicals in today's GOP don't like him very much. So, if they don't like him, then I do. But he was still more conservative than Obama. Obama was a moderate liberal progressive. He got shit done too.

I'm just now recognizing why you and your kind are tearing at Obama. Sanders, the do nothing Senator has no accomplishments to tout in his bid for the President. All he can do is try to diminish Obama's record.

Don't make me dislike Cortez. I think she is OK. She hasn't done anything yet but she's only been in Congress for a month or so, most of that time the government was shut down. So she gets a pass until she finishes her first term. In my opinion, a 70% tax on people making more than $10 million should be justified by more than a call for fairness, but it's not going anywhere either. It's just another symbolic measure that your kind likes. For myself, I support the accomplishment wing of the Democratic Party and find little use for that kind of showmanship.

Now who's spinning presidential track records?

 

[ttystikk]

In my opinion, a 70% tax on people making more than $10 million should be justified by more than a call for fairness, but it's not going anywhere either. It's just another symbolic measure that your kind likes

Funny, Teddy Roosevelt pushed it through and it made sense just fine. His reasoning makes every bit as much sense now as it did a century ago- and the results? America's prosperity was never greater or more widely shared than when top tax rates were over 70%. How 'bout that?!

I've seen your opinions on economics topics and I'm not impressed. Now you're defending low taxes for billionaires. Fox News loves you!

 

[Fogdog]

No, clown, I said Obama admitted he governed to the right of Reagan.

Can't you use the quote function?

I read that article. He never said what you claim.

You can't even accurately cite something that you post links to.

Here is the article you posted. I promise you won't even find a reference to Reagan in that article.
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/272957-obama-says-his-economic-policies-so-mainstream-hed-be-seen-as-moderate-republican-in-1980s

Quit lying tty.

 

[Fogdog]

Now who's spinning presidential track records?

Obama -- got shit done. Do I really have to repost what @TacoMac just posted?

Sanders -- a legislative midget. Got a post office renamed and a few solar water heaters installed on some government buildings

Sanders campaign strategy is to tear down Obama's legacy. Small wonder he lost in 2016. A mouse tried to take down a titan.

 

[Fogdog]

Funny, Teddy Roosevelt pushed it through and it made sense just fine. His reasoning makes every bit as much sense now as it did a century ago- and the results? America's prosperity was never greater or more widely shared than when top tax rates were over 70%. How 'bout that?!

I've seen your opinions on economics topics and I'm not impressed. Now you're defending low taxes for billionaires. Fox News loves you!

Yeah, yeah, so says the guy who claimed the wealthy paid that high rate in the '50's.

They didn't. Nobody paid that high a rate, what with all the loopholes in the tax code.