bernie sanders is fucking crazy

[Rob Roy]

get a job and pay some taxes you mooch

no one believes that you are anything but a shriveled old racist piece of shit btw.

I have an amazingly youthful complexion for a man of my age.

So,yeah, like check your shrivelege, honky.

 

[ttystikk]

Your premise is that without a central authority around to forcibly take your property there will be nobody around to prevent someone from forcibly taking your property ?

I guess that explains your inability to address my questions. My condolences.

No, it means that you are woefully ignorant of the rigors of a lack of organised society.

 

[UncleBuck]

But CENTRIST Democrats are not pushing for them.

there is literally zero space in the dem primary for anyone without a workable universal healthcare plan

 

[UncleBuck]

I have an amazingly youthful complexion for a man of my age.

So,yeah, like check your shrivelege, honky.

no one would refer to you as a man you crying little bitch of a slave

get a job and pay some taxes you fucking sponge

 

[Rob Roy]

post a picture of your frail little old man arms

No, it means that you are woefully ignorant of the rigors of a lack of organised society.

I'm not sure that your answer means anything other than once again you haven't rebutted what I've said. Your premise seems to be that a central coercion based authority is needed to prevent people from using coercion. Have I got that wrong? How?

Are you confusing government and society ? I think you might be.

 

[Rob Roy]

no one would refer to you as a man you crying little bitch of a slave

get a job and pay some taxes you fucking sponge

 

[Fogdog]

You sound politically dyslexic.

I support leftist politics and the politicians who promote them. That's not just the antithesis of Republican politics, it's a non starter with the Democratic Party too.

What do you mean when you say Progressive?

 

[tangerinegreen555]

What do you mean when you say Progressive?

Bully, bully!

 

[ttystikk]

Doesn't look like his popularity is falling.

 

[UncleBuck]

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Doesn't look like his popularity is falling.

 

[tangerinegreen555]

Declare a national emergency and repeal the 22nd ammendment for 2020.


Fucking landslide, +20%

 

[Fogdog]

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Cult of Sanders are mighty touchy about the concept of an open field for Democratic candidates in the 2020 primary.

 

[ttystikk]

Declare a national emergency and repeal the 22nd ammendment for 2020.

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Fucking landslide, +20%

So you're a republican. Duly noted.

 

[tangerinegreen555]

So you're a republican. Duly noted.

That's really insanity.

To say there's no difference over and over is insane.

Requires no further explanation. You get two realistic choices. Pick the best or be disenfranchised.

You should start a new 'Disenfranchised Party' but nobody in it would vote.

 

[ttystikk]

That's really insanity.

To say there's no difference over and over is insane.

Requires no further explanation. You get two realistic choices. Pick the best or be disenfranchised.

You should start a new 'Disenfranchised Party' but nobody in it would vote.

Mr Obama himself said he governed to the right of Ronald Reagan.

Any sober examination of his record in office supports that contention, especially when one examines his fiscal policies.

Dwight Eisenhower governed far to the left of any Democrat since the Reagan administration, also easily verified.

If you don't like that characterisation I don't know what to tell you, other than that maybe you're a bit confused by Trump's dramatic style vs Obama's characteristic cool.

 

[Fogdog]

Mr Obama himself said he governed to the right of Ronald Reagan.

Any sober examination of his record in office supports that contention, especially when one examines his fiscal policies.

Dwight Eisenhower governed far to the left of any Democrat since the Reagan administration, also easily verified.

If you don't like that characterisation I don't know what to tell you, other than that maybe you're a bit confused by Trump's dramatic style vs Obama's characteristic cool.

Wow, that's some revisionist history.

You mean Ike, who was president during the red scare and the rise of the new white supremacist movement? Ah, no, the New Deal was Roosevelts and the War on Poverty was Johnson's. Ike did nothing to lead this country to the left. He was status quo. The status quo in some states was segregation and lynching of black men when they came home from the war with new ideas.

You mean Obama who was a major force behind the formation of the ACA? That's not exactly to the right of Ronald Reagan.

 

[ttystikk]

Wow, that's some revisionist history.

You mean Ike, who was president during the red scare and the rise of the new white supremacist movement? Ah, no, the New Deal was Roosevelts and the War on Poverty was Johnson's. Ike did nothing to lead this country to the left. He was status quo. The status quo in some states was segregation and lynching of black men when they came home from the war with new ideas.

You mean Obama who was a major force behind the formation of the ACA? That's not exactly to the right of Ronald Reagan.

Here ya go, knucklehead;
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/272957-obama-says-his-economic-policies-so-mainstream-hed-be-seen-as-moderate-republican-in-1980s

Oh- and don't forget he bailed out the banks, didn't prosecute any banking executives for the massive financial crimes that precipitated the crash of 2008 but let millions of homeowners get foreclosed on.

Yeah, he's a real champion of the people, buddy!

 

[Fogdog]

Here ya go, knucklehead;
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/272957-obama-says-his-economic-policies-so-mainstream-hed-be-seen-as-moderate-republican-in-1980s

Oh- and don't forget he bailed out the banks, didn't prosecute any banking executives for the massive financial crimes that precipitated the crash of 2008 but let millions of homeowners get foreclosed on.

Yeah, he's a real champion of the people, buddy!

Did he do the wrong thing at the time when he oversaw Bush's bailout? It WAS Bush's bailout enacted before Obama won the election. Did he do the wrong thing to keep the banking system going? Would those prosecutions at that time not make our economy worse? I'm not as certain as you about all that. But then again you never needed facts.

The ACA would never have been enacted under Reagan so, yes, Obama is to the left of Reagan. The ACA and Obama's adroit handling of the great Recession are his legacy and he did a fine job in both.

Its reasonable for me to say I'm not sure if it would have been the right thing at that time for this country to come down hard on the banks at the moment he took office. So, it's your opinion that he should have. That's your opinion. I'm not sure if I can share it. Actually I can't. Obama was a good president and I don't think he mismanaged things like you seem to think. My opinion.

 

[ttystikk]

Did he do the wrong thing at the time when he oversaw Bush's bailout? It WAS Bush's bailout enacted before Obama won the election. Did he do the wrong thing to keep the banking system going? Would those prosecutions at that time not make our economy worse? I'm not as certain as you about all that. But then again you never needed facts.

The ACA would never have been enacted under Reagan so, yes, Obama is to the left of Reagan. The ACA and Obama's adroit handling of the great Recession are his legacy and he did a fine job in both.

Its reasonable for me to say I'm not sure if it would have been the right thing at that time for this country to come down hard on the banks at the moment he took office. So, it's your opinion that he should have. That's your opinion. I'm not sure if I can share it. Actually I can't. Obama was a good president and I don't think he mismanaged things like you seem to think. My opinion.

A Republican President would enact austerity and cut Medicare and Medicaid to help balance the budget.

Oh yeah- Mr Obama did that;

But you've already proven that you wouldn't listen to an authority on the subject if your fiscal life depended on it. Which, it does.

 

[Fogdog]

A Republican President would enact austerity and cut Medicare and Medicaid to help balance the budget.

Oh yeah- Mr Obama did that;

RT?

Do better.

No, Obama did not cut Medicare and Medicaid.

You are making my case for you being a closet Republican by quoting Republican right wing propaganda. A simple fact check yields the bent logic that because the ACA reduced Medicare and Medicaid COSTS, Obama therefore "cut Medicare and Medicaid". That was Romney's bullshit campaign crap you just quoted via RT.

Fact Check: Obamacare’s Medicare Cuts
By Kate Pickert @katepickertAug. 16, 2012
http://swampland.time.com/2012/08/16/fact-check-obamacares-medicare-cuts/
The idea, however, that the Affordable Care Act struck a dangerous blow to Medicare that will change the program in fundamental ways is untrue. Under the new law, Medicare will remain a wildly popular, public single-payer health insurance system that provides comprehensive coverage to millions of Americans.