thenotsoesoteric

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Remember just the week before last I said I came home to a 24 hr inspection notice for the next 3 days? Well I came home Monday to another 24 hr notice for inspections on any of 3 days again, wtf.

Apparently the lazy management didn't even do the inspections last time but never bothered to tell tenants and so they're doing this week. Any day today, tomorrow or Friday they could come into my apartment without me here. How the fuck is this shit legal? At the very least it is extremely unprofessional to; 1. not give a specific time for coming into my/other's apt (not this any time 11/7-11/9 10am-4pm) 2. not notifying tenants that the original inspection never happened and that it would take place in another week. But the mofos think "oh it's no big deal. we'll just pop in real quick, no biggie" Fuck you! lmao

Whatever, I can't do shit about it and I can't risk getting the boot at the moment. Gotta keep my eye on the bigger focus, saving money for my down payment for property, so I'll take the ass plugging and smile like a good financial slave. But boy, the younger inner me wants to go to the office and take a big shit right on their desk and tell them to inspect that, lol.

Unfortunately, I had to chop the 2 east cake clones I had flowering, but I kept a clone in veg of the frostier of the 2. Everything else is in the cabinet on a 12/12 cycle so 4 gojis fems, bubba's gift, and lvtk can continue flower with less stress but the clones I have in veg will unfortunately get fucked off again and will need another week after this to start vegging again.

At least this time only a handful small clones are staying in veg everything else is either flowering now or will be as soon as I can safely throw pollen without wondering if my apt management want to come in and smell my freshly ripped ass.

As Ringo would say

On a bit of good news, I got a new order of 100 pink (fuck breast cancer) 1/20 ounce plastic container for the up coming chuck, knock on wood, and I got my bodhi order from James beans. I selected lucky wookies as 1st choice on freebies and scored! Though my 2nd choice was sky lotus and that had me interested too.
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C-theGrower

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@genuity this is the Goofy Grape I got from you. I flowered 8 beans and got 5 females.
This one is pheno #8 smells like a strong purple candy already. Put into flip Oct 10 with a 2 week veg. I'm guessing shes a grape stomper leaner and is hopefully going to be something special. The purple this early coming through looks awesome.
Thanks again,
NC
Damn thats looking killer dude.. :clap:Goofy Grape. I gotta get my hands on that.
 

Kami Samurai

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Question for anyone who can help. I’m pheno hunting for an elite cut (from seed) and have read a lot of different information. Does anyone think there is a guaranteed number for finding this classification of plant. I’m just wondering if there is a number that would guarantee a elite in the process e.g. 500/1000/10000.

I know the typical awnser is, “It’s like the lottery.” but that’s not what I’m looking for. More of a mathematical luck awnser or a “make your own luck awnser.”

As well is there any filial generation that would increase the chance of a pheno like this to appear? Would you have a higher chance trying to breed the plants to show a wide range of recessive genes and allow yourself to play with the widest genetic variation with seeds of a single cross, or would it be more productive to try to breed toward specific traits e.g. hash/trichome production and Pheno hunt out a stabilized line (I feel like you might loose quite a few traits in this process).
 

genuity

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Question for anyone who can help. I’m pheno hunting for an elite cut (from seed) and have read a lot of different information. Does anyone think there is a guaranteed number for finding this classification of plant. I’m just wondering if there is a number that would guarantee a elite in the process e.g. 500/1000/10000.

I know the typical awnser is, “It’s like the lottery.” but that’s not what I’m looking for. More of a mathematical luck awnser or a “make your own luck awnser.”

As well is there any filial generation that would increase the chance of a pheno like this to appear? Would you have a higher chance trying to breed the plants to show a wide range of recessive genes and allow yourself to play with the widest genetic variation with seeds of a single cross, or would it be more productive to try to breed toward specific traits e.g. hash/trichome production and Pheno hunt out a stabilized line (I feel like you might loose quite a few traits in this process).
I think if you pop enough of any seeds,you will find something that will knock your socks off,then the work starts..getting the cut into some big growers,grow some hype,dish in some drama,add some lore & you are on the way to an elite cut..

traits,that's a hard one,I try to keep it to the simple ones(structure, flower rate,bud to leaf,durability,bud formation) I like to try & let the others play out(terps/smells,highs/stones,effects,duration of the effects)

Could be way off..
 

Houstini

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Well, I’m pretty bummed. Planted my last 9 goji seeds hoping to f2, 3 damped off and 1 stunted at cots. I’m 5/5 female now, with a beautiful pinesoul pheno mom from earlier run. Got a full pack of love triangle going right now so my best bet is some goji x love triangle to get something close. Oh well, wasn’t someone else doing goji f2s in here?
 

Kami Samurai

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dinafem.org/en/blog/how-cannabis-hybrids-are-created/?amp

https://www.marijuanaventure.com/decoding-cannabis-genetics/

The definition of elite is quite subjective up to this point but cannabis genotyping or Phylos is growing rapidly and even if not, I’m more interested in cannabinoid numbers (30% THC< is a big bonus), terp profile, structure (appeal), and the consumption affects.

Some people would say a cut of Panama Red is “Elite” and some would say it’s dated and something like White Fire #43 is when it was only selected out of 500 Seeds. I know hype can sell seeds but I have no desire to enter the seed market and am just looking to grow quality to surpass 90% of the market.
 
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Houstini

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dinafem.org/en/blog/how-cannabis-hybrids-are-created/?amp

https://www.marijuanaventure.com/decoding-cannabis-genetics/

Haha yeah anything Berner raps about becomes “Elite” too.

The definition of elite is quite subjective up to this point but cannabis genotyping or Phylos is growing rapidly and even if not, I’m more interested in cannabinoid numbers (30% THC< is a big bonus), terp profile, structure (appeal), and the consumption affects.

Some people would say a cut of Panama Red is “Elite” and some would say it’s dated and something like White Fire #43 is when it was only selected out of 500 Seeds. I know hype can sell seeds but I have no desire to enter the seed market and am just looking for quality to surpass 90% of the market.
I’ve already started the project I’ll return once I’ve logged a decent amount of information to share it and to read anyone’s helpful suggestions.
Not all fire costs $$$ just gotta be willing to put in the work and get a little dusty!
 

C-theGrower

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WATS GOOD MY FELLOW CHUCKER GROWERS..
Heres a little update on Wat I got in the garden. Snapchat-2036084159.jpgFrist off we got 9 of the infamous GMOxDB way in the back by @genuity thanks my dude. Also 2 Citrus twist and 1 Sunny D OG those are the three cups in the front by @thenotsoesoteric also another big thanks. The little baby sprouts Are just doing a amazing job in the garden ... I can't wait to separate the males from the females. And really have some fun . :weed::eyesmoke::bigjoint:
 
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Kami Samurai

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Not all fire costs $$$ just gotta be willing to put in the work and get a little dusty!
Yes sir. I plan to run a cross stardawg f2 x the cube and name it Mark Cuban. My question mainly was what is the best point to start the hunt from F1, f2, bx, etc. or is it better to run a f2 or later filial generation which is suppose to express lots of recessive traits, in mass quantities or mass quantities of a F1 “Mark Cuban” for example. Either that or start a cross and work the line down and make something unique using other breeding methods listed previously then hunt it out.
 
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hillbill

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Well, I’m pretty bummed. Planted my last 9 goji seeds hoping to f2, 3 damped off and 1 stunted at cots. I’m 5/5 female now, with a beautiful pinesoul pheno mom from earlier run. Got a full pack of love triangle going right now so my best bet is some goji x love triangle to get something close. Oh well, wasn’t someone else doing goji f2s in here?
First time I heard of someone being “pretty bummed” with 5/5 female Gojis, even with plans for F2s. Heard of people taking clones and with 5 to choose from in that strain there should be something worth that.
 

thenotsoesoteric

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Well, I’m pretty bummed. Planted my last 9 goji seeds hoping to f2, 3 damped off and 1 stunted at cots. I’m 5/5 female now, with a beautiful pinesoul pheno mom from earlier run. Got a full pack of love triangle going right now so my best bet is some goji x love triangle to get something close. Oh well, wasn’t someone else doing goji f2s in here?
Yes, me. I got lucky and got 1 male out of 5 seedlings for a total of 9/10 female on the goji overall. I got them all in flower now. Also plan on reversing the keeper I find out of 4 girls.
 

thenotsoesoteric

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dinafem.org/en/blog/how-cannabis-hybrids-are-created/?amp

https://www.marijuanaventure.com/decoding-cannabis-genetics/

The definition of elite is quite subjective up to this point but cannabis genotyping or Phylos is growing rapidly and even if not, I’m more interested in cannabinoid numbers (30% THC< is a big bonus), terp profile, structure (appeal), and the consumption affects.

Some people would say a cut of Panama Red is “Elite” and some would say it’s dated and something like White Fire #43 is when it was only selected out of 500 Seeds. I know hype can sell seeds but I have no desire to enter the seed market and am just looking to grow quality to surpass 90% of the market.
Well mac 1 was the first female cap found and look where that got him. You dont always need to pop 500+ seeds. Hell, I got a really nice pheno of lvtk on my first bean as well. Numbers increase you chances at finding a nice cut but in order to make it an elite you gotta get it out there to thousands of people and they have to in turn like it too. Hype sells for sure.
 

CannaBruh

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Elite == hype + fomo + dank
somewhere along those lines
Plenty hold fire cuts that will stand up to elites and perhaps haven't been shared out or haven't gone viral on the forums
On the flip many many get hyped and people fomo (or try to, further driving hype) only to be wanting the next hot thing suggesting said hype was overextended

This is markets and we are insider traders.
 

Kami Samurai

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There’s 100’s of strains considered elite cuts too many for that to be true about everyone I believe. Banana kush, purple punch, Corey, Lemon Dawg, Gelato #11, Forum, GMO, romulan, WiFi 43/3, Tahoe, chemdawg, roadkill, UK Cheese, the list goes on.

Winning a cup sells seeds and helps build brands you don’t even have to get first, but a bud told me that’s another type of game in itself a lot of times. Some cups still have a lot of legitimacy to them e.g. California Emerald Cups. I heard a story about a CC cup in CO and the winner only won because they donated the most product and they could talk a dog off a meat wagon. There was product there around 32%+ THC that still got recognition w/o placing.

Most of these strains won cups with around 30% THC, that seems to be the common factor.
 
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