Organic no till, probiotic, knf, jadam, vermicomposting, soil mixes, sips etc... Q & A

Wetdog

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Growing it is probably the cheaper route but I can’t grow them worth shit. The smallest bag BaS offers is like 20-25?
Get the gallon jug of 99.8% pure aloe juice at WalMart, a bit over $6 for the gallon. Get the plain, but they do offer flavors for the folks that drink some daily. Good stuff and cheap.

Wet
 

Wetdog

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I hope that you are not trying to take credit for what Hyroot showed me, you have just been nothing but an obstacle in my opinion. Save it for the Newbs...

I was merely expressing happiness over your moment of clarity and understanding, not trying to take credit for anything and you respond like this?

Get over yourself.

Wet
 

hyroot

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hyroot

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Growing it is probably the cheaper route but I can’t grow them worth shit. The smallest bag BaS offers is like 20-25?
Aloe growing tip. They do not grow well in fabric pots because the soil dries out too fast and aloe roots grow pretty slow and they do produce thick roots. Imo they do best in clay terracotta pots or in the ground. Don't over water or under water them. If they get pale, they're under watered.

I grow mine in clay terracotta pots and those plastic terracotta style self warering ( sip ) pots that are sold at home depot.. They seem to grow faster and bigger in the clay pots.
 

MustangStudFarm

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I see the product but it is hard to find information about it. What is the difference between Super Cera and EM1? Really, the question is if I should invest in it because I have EM1 already and plan on making my own Lacto B next time. I'm putting together a shopping list to make Gro-Kashi and going to stop by the brew store tomorrow for the red wheat. Gro-Kashi really sparked my interest when he was talking about obtaining a high brix value. Your right, it will take about $200 to make Gro-kashi but I feel that it is the missing piece of the puzzle.

I might try Youngevity for myself, it looks interesting and has very positive reviews. I'm sure that it don't take much of it for Gro-Kashi. I think that I have been caught up on N-P-K values and soil testing for too long. I keep getting the same answer on soil tests anyways, low in micros. That is why I want to focus on "High Brix" and Gro-Kashi addresses that issue!
 

MustangStudFarm

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Growing it is probably the cheaper route but I can’t grow them worth shit. The smallest bag BaS offers is like 20-25?
It was just a question and didn't mean any negativity. I actually had a nice aloe plant last year but I didn't know what to do with it... I am going to focus on companion plants like comfrey, aloe, wort, and whatever that will help. I came across an article that talked about a plant that was high in Mn, which is always low on my soil tests, but I can't remember which wort it was. It wasn't Mug-wort but the other wort.
 

hyroot

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I see the product but it is hard to find information about it. What is the difference between Super Cera and EM1? Really, the question is if I should invest in it because I have EM1 already and plan on making my own Lacto B next time. I'm putting together a shopping list to make Gro-Kashi and going to stop by the brew store tomorrow for the red wheat. Gro-Kashi really sparked my interest when he was talking about obtaining a high brix value. Your right, it will take about $200 to make Gro-kashi but I feel that it is the missing piece of the puzzle.

I might try Youngevity for myself, it looks interesting and has very positive reviews. I'm sure that it don't take much of it for Gro-Kashi. I think that I have been caught up on N-P-K values and soil testing for too long. I keep getting the same answer on soil tests anyways, low in micros. That is why I want to focus on "High Brix" and Gro-Kashi addresses that issue!
It may be the em1 and rock dusts in the gro kashi that help with brix levels.

I make boakshi with with;
Red wheat
Lab serum (not activated )
Molasees
Himilayan salt
Photosynthesis plus (contains pnsb)
Rock dusts. ( I used basalt last time. I may try azomite next time).

I haven't tried beet juice. That may help with brix levels too.


The flower power fruit ferment has increased the brix levels more than anything else I've ever used. I have used about 5 bags of gro kashi before making my own bokashi for the first time.

Btw i get red wheat at $11 for 25 lbs at a horse feed store.
 

projectinfo

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My soil mix - coots mix adjusted

Equal parts peat moss, wormcastings / compost and garden pumice.

per cubic foot
1/2 cup kelp meal
1/2 cup crab shell meal
1/4 cup ahimsa indian neem cake
1/4 cup karanja cake
1/2 cup malted barley seed***this i was confused on
2 cups basalt rock dust
2 cups gypsum rock dust
1/2 cup em1 bokashi or grokashi

Mix and cook in a tote or trash can for 4 weeks ( all soil mixes must be cooked). Cooking is basically fermenting the soil. Allowing everything to be broken down by microbes so everything is readily available for uptake when the plant wants. If you don't cook your soil you will be running into deficiencies early on.

If you use a more amended mix with any bone meals (fish or cattle) you will have a much hotter soil and could burn your plants. With bone meals ( fish or cow) you should cook the soil for 2 months minimum for them to break down fully.

Green sand and dolomite lime are both useless as they take up to 2 years to break down. Dolomite lime has the wrong ratio of cal and mag. You want more of a 5:1 cal:mag ratio with liming. Oyster shell flour or gypsum rock dust is a better option. Dolomite lime is a 2:1 ratio


Never use perlite. It floats to the top of the soil ( not aerating the rest) and over time it breaks down into a powder and clogs the soil.

Rice hulls are better for a mulch as the break down pretty quick. Worms love them

2nd round plant new clone or seedling off to the side of the main stalk.. The main stalk from the last grow will break down eventually. Top with worm castings and water

Also add red wigglers and night crawlers to your pots or sips

Use mulch or cover crops.

Pot size 15 gallons minimum. 25 is better. If you run octo pot style sips you can get away with 10 gal pots
 

MustangStudFarm

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It may be the em1 and rock dusts in the gro kashi that help with brix levels
Does the "Youngevity" have anything to do with it? He kept talking about prenatal vitamins during the podcast and kept describing treating the plant like a young lady getting ready for child bearing.

I was actually looking around my yard for FPJ material and this is what I came up with. A roma tomato plant that stopped producing but is still very healthy and vibrant. It's still producing flowers, but not like it was a couple of weeks ago.
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I think that this is Chinese Basil, very fragrant.
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I'm not sure what this is, but it is still vibrant.
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MustangStudFarm

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@MustangStudFarm suoer cera is fermented ceramic clay thats then fired i think. There's threads on pfa from 3 years ago where Alan was discussing removing super cera from the recipe to get a clran green certification.
It's expensive and I was wondering if it was really helpful anyways???

@projectinfo
After the soil is mixed i top dress the mleted barley and water it in. Per coots instructions before he went crazy.
I mixed the barley with the soil and didn't top-dress. I still have plenty and it's cheap. I've noticed some interesting mold coming from them, some multicolored but mostly white fuzz.
 

MustangStudFarm

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The flower power fruit ferment has increased the brix levels more than anything else I've ever used. I have used about 5 bags of gro kashi before making my own bokashi for the first time
This is helpful... Wife picked up plenty of brown sugar today...
 

hyroot

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Does the "Youngevity" have anything to do with it? He kept talking about prenatal vitamins during the podcast and kept describing treating the plant like a young lady getting ready for child bearing.

I was actually looking around my yard for FPJ material and this is what I came up with. A roma tomato plant that stopped producing but is still very healthy and vibrant. It's still producing flowers, but not like it was a couple of weeks ago.
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I think that this is Chinese Basil, very fragrant.
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I'm not sure what this is, but it is still vibrant.
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As long as its fast growing its good for an fpj. I ferment some fast growing flowers that bloom year round and produce pinkish flowers that grow all over my moms house. I need to get some comfrey going again.
 
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