Flushing

Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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NGA said:
Wow you fucking guys this guy asked a question not your bullshit opinion
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Ok then, scientific FACT!

"YOU CAN NOT "FLUSH" NUTRIENTS FROM GROWING PLANTS." PERIOD!

The thing is, NOTHING in agriculture gets 'flushed" and that leads to little to no research in the area. You see, the thing is, the whole "idea" of "flushing is nonsense! Plants don't work that way! They do not take up nutrients or salts as most of you think of them! They do not "store" them in the sense you think of them! Not only that, but the nutritional "stores" in a plant are not in buds or budding or flowers! NO amount of "flushing" will "exchange" plant "stored" nutrition back "out" of the plant! Scientifically impossible by the way most of you guys understand......Ok, that's my word on "flushing". (No one listens to this in threads if they don't want to hear it or accept it.)

Now then, you propose the "FADE TO FINISH" method. Great idea in theory but, and this IS a BIG BUT! Remember when I said above that "the nutritional "stores" in a plant are not in buds or budding or flowers!" ? This shoots that theory in the ass right away. You see the main amount of stored nutrition is in either the roots and the rest in leaves and some in small amounts in transit in the phloam (the sap that actually moves the nutrients around the plant)......

Now when you "starve a plant" it will draw from it's self by actually breaking down the needed parts of it's self to do an "emergency" attempt to reproduce! (This can happen in certain plants even in veg! A kind of last ditch effort to continue the species.)

With that in mind you take the fact that the plant is not "moving" nutrients "out" of buds, but into them to speed growth and as fast as it can - "reproduce". This single minded process the plant now puts it's self on causes the plant to stress it's self. This self induced stress can, in many cases if done long enough, lead the plant to go bisexual, and produce "banana's" in a last ditch effort to reproduce and "carry on the line" and produce seeds...

Basically put, In reality you are moving nutrients that you're "attempting" to get rid of,,right to where your trying to remove them from! You are also stressing the plant in the way for "Herming" to actually happen easier!

I and many others that have tried to convey this actual plant science, are called everything you can think of and those 'impossible of understanding these facts", fight so hard against us that many of us have simply chosen to avoid the issue or don't fight to hard.

Anyway, there you are in as short and sweet and as simple/understandable as I can...

The thing is you have to understand Botany and Horticulture (and there are LOTS of subsections to those that are involved here) to truly put together the pieces of the puzzle to get your head wrapped around the idea that flushing and the "fade" don't work for what they are intended or alleged to actually do!

There you go Mods, nice, polite and to the point. (Sorry about the other thread Sunni)

There you go, Now have at it!
I'm stepping back to watch the circus.

Read this too!

https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-truth-about-flushing.409622/

"YOU DON'T NEED TO CURE" is an opinion statement..... Basically incorrect. You sure should!
 
xtsho

xtsho

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People that think you can "flush" stuff out of the plants can never tell you where that "stuff" they're "flushing" out goes.
 
NGA

NGA

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Everyone flushes one way or another ,if you grow in dirt and slow back on nutes that in fact is flushing in a sense,for hydro growers most people flush ,I've been growing for many years I wouldn't think of cutting down without flushing
 
Lordhooha

Lordhooha

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NGA said:
Everyone flushes one way or another ,if you grow in dirt and slow back on nutes that in fact is flushing in a sense,for hydro growers most people flush ,I've been growing for many years I wouldn't think of cutting down without flushing
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How do you figure tapering down nutrients is flushing? Where other than the cannabis industry have you ever heard of flushing?
 
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althor

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For some reason anti-flushers act as though you are killing their favorite pet. It is probably the most venomous subject on this site, almost as bad as the politics threads.

I don't think anyone who flushes have ever said or are saying that flushing removes nutrients from plants.
 
charface

charface

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People who have been here a while and given the same opinions in great detail repeatedly often resort to just giving an opinion with no details.

The one with the question could have used the search function and still can if they require more.

Hang out for a while and you will learn who you can mostly trust.

Even then, no one is always correct so again, the one with the question has the ability to dig deeper or ask for clarification.

Then there are these topics that have been beaten to death and we will never agree on.

If you don't research prior to pushing the hot button you may get a sharp fast jab for an answer. Still that is the answer.

Welcome to the interwebz
Please enjoy yer stayz.
 
charface

charface

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I chose to give a detailed answer.
But to a question no one asked.
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Welcome....

Ps, to really ask this question you need to clarify what you call flushing because we have a division there.

I consider flushing the act of pouring ass loads of water through the soil to correct a fuck up.

So no I don't flush prior to harvest.
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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charface said:
I chose to give a detailed answer.
But to a question no one asked.
Again
Welcome....

Ps, to really ask this question you need to clarify what you call flushing because we have a division there.

I consider flushing the act of pouring ass loads of water through the soil to correct a fuck up.

So no I don't flush prior to harvest.
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Horticulture has a word for pouring ass loads of water through the soil. Leaching.
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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althor said:
For some reason anti-flushers act as though you are killing their favorite pet. It is probably the most venomous subject on this site, almost as bad as the politics threads.

I don't think anyone who flushes have ever said or are saying that flushing removes nutrients from plants.
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yea, they do- often. Chlorophyll is the main one they mention but they do mention most.
But flushing is not a horticulture word its a plumbing one.
Leaching is pouring arse loads of water through the media to remove salts.
Watering is watering.
Feeding is feeding.
 
CannaBruh

CannaBruh

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Water like normal without adding any food. That's what a lot of us do during this "flush" period, I'm not pouring excess amounts of water through pots, just don't feed anything. Or do, both methods works, preference is subjective as you will find or have found :hug:
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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CannaBruh said:
Water like normal without adding any food. That's what a lot of us do during this "flush" period, I'm not pouring excess amounts of water through pots, just don't feed anything. Or do, both methods works, preference is subjective as you will find or have found :hug:
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So your watering the plants. Do you go out and flush your lawn in summer? What about the veggie garden do you flush that of an evening? ;)
 
CannaBruh

CannaBruh

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OP feed your plants to the end or water without food at the end or pour copious amounts of water through the pots at the end the choice is yours and I can assure you in each scenario you can find yourself with flowers that might not be discernible from same plants had via the other methods.

In other words, don't waste too much time on it. You've done the bulk of the work quite literally if you're at the end. If they're swollen, running another week or two on plain water won't hurt. If you keep feeding them they might be better might be worse.
 
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