Even the Australian Prime minister thinks Trumps a joke.

whitebb2727

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Yes, shooting them would be counterproductive.

They already feel completely entitled, it's that sense of being better than the rest of us great unwashed that needs to be stamped out. Violence will only reinforce it, and with it justification for being even harsher on the rest of us.

Sustained non-violent mass protest is the most powerful force in the political world.
I don't know.

I would hope that violence is not needed. I'm against violence.

Sometimes there is no avoiding it. If you go back to the mines and worker safety and pay it took violence to change things.

I guess it was said best by @Olive Drab Green. Its a shit sandwich.
 

ttystikk

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I don't know.

I would hope that violence is not needed. I'm against violence.

Sometimes there is no avoiding it. If you go back to the mines and worker safety and pay it took violence to change things.

I guess it was said best by @Olive Drab Green. Its a shit sandwich.
Those who use violence lose the larger debate.

Maybe it will take violence. I won't be advocating for it.
 

ttystikk

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I agree.

Everyone will get violent. Its just at what point.

I'm not advocating it either.

How bad would you let it get before you said enough?
I've been saying enough is enough for years!

What I haven't figured out is how to say it effectively to a wider audience in a way that exhorts us to sustained action and protest- where the neoliberalist State can commit violence and discredit themselves.

It almost happened with Occupy. It should have, but the larger 'news' propaganda dissemination media managed to control the narrative.

Occupy Wall Street was America's Tienanmin Square.

We cannot let the neoliberalist establishment control the narrative and continue driving the planet towards the cliff. We the People need to control the narrative and push back against the idea of wealth bring more qualified to run out world than 'ordinary' citizens.

THEY are the anomalous ones, not the rest of us. And if they're allowed to keep running things, they'll send us off the cliff of the end of civilisation like a bunch of lemmings. Their mistake is the assumption that they might survive such a catastrophe.

https://www.thenation.com/article/noam-chomsky-neoliberalism-destroying-democracy/
 

ttystikk

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At the risk of sounding like Alex Jones, I submit the following for your careful consideration;

I firmly believe our government is engaged in ongoing black operations against the American People in order to prevent just such an event from occurring. They've done it before; the FBI has been involved in such operations against Martin Luther King Jr's civil rights movement, the Black Panthers and many more.

In modern times the CIA has been authorized to run similar operations, not only against foreign governments but also against Americans, so it would actually surprise me if they WEREN'T also working to subvert American citizens rights to protest and question our government.

This would be the malevolent core of what's often vaguely referred to as the 'deep state', but make no mistake that such operations would be operating outside of the desires of those in power. If you were among the elites, wouldn't YOU be doing the same thing? They clearly don't give one single damn about our civil rights or the rule of law, and their excuse would always be 'maintaining the peace/preserving order'. THEIR order, of course.

It's only paranoia if it isn't true.
 
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Lucky Luke

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I wasnt responding to a post about australia. And if you mean by fine folks the aboriginal peoples of Australia back in the 17 and 18th century
More aborigines died from the common cold introduced by the English than did by a gun.

Also its a moot point as guns were not banned back then (and still are not) and our currency was rum..(yep..it really was)
 

Lucky Luke

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Id just like to point out that Guns are not banned in Australia. A few are saying they are. They are not banned.

We do have sensible gun laws....and they do indeed work. And introduced by our conservative party to..
 
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SneekyNinja

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At the risk of sounding like Alex Jones, I submit the following for your careful consideration;

I firmly believe our government is engaged in ongoing black operations against the American People in order to prevent just such an event from occurring. They've done it before; the FBI has been involved in such operations against Martin Luther King Jr's civil rights movement, the Black Panthers and many more.

In modern times the CIA has been authorized to run similar operations, not only against foreign governments but also against Americans, so it would actually surprise me if they WEREN'T also working to subvert American citizens rights to protest and question our government.

This would be the malevolent core of what's often vaguely referred to as the 'deep state', but make no mistake that such operations would be operating outside of the desires of those in power. If you were among the elites, wouldn't YOU be doing the same thing? They clearly don't give one single damn about our civil rights or the rule of law, and their excuse would always be 'maintaining the peace/preserving order'. THEIR order, of course.

It's only paranoia if it isn't true.
And you wonder why people don't take you seriously anymore?

Next it'll be gay frogs from chemtrails.
 
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