VIANARCHRIS
Well-Known Member
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/cannabis-legalization-arrests-charges-enforcement-1.3545800
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/cannabis-legalization-arrests-charges-enforcement-1.3545800
In reality, no one is in 'prison' for basic possession. If you're in prison, it's because you were selling at a large level, trafficking, etc. And the liberals legalizing will not make trafficking and sale legal unless through legal government channels. You don't think the police will continue to arrest those growing and selling outside the legal system , just like alcohol or tobacco?It's going to be interesting to see what happens to all of the people in prison for mj charges once it's legal. Especially those who may potentially get locked between now and next spring..
But...just like alcohol and tobacco, common sense would suggest you are going to be free to grow and sell providing you do so inside of government regulations.Sounds reasonable to me. Molson didn't keep the micro-breweries away and Tweed won't stop smaller grower's.You don't think the police will continue to arrest those growing and selling outside the legal system , just like alcohol or tobacco?
Jeepers, when will you kids realize what the fuck the Liberals are doing?
Hmm well will see, Liberals already stated harsher penalties for selling/distributing outside of the regulatory system.But...just like alcohol and tobacco, common sense would suggest you are going to be free to grow and sell providing you do so inside of government regulations.Sounds reasonable to me. Molson didn't keep the micro-breweries away and Tweed won't stop smaller grower's.
We will remove marijuana consumption and incidental possession from the Criminal Code, and create new, stronger laws to punish more severely those who provide it to minors, those who operate a motor vehicle while under its influence, and those who sell it outside of the new regulatory framework.
That's why you sell within the regulatory system. One of they main objectives and selling points for legalization is to take control away from organized crime, and harsher penalties are a way to accomplish that. There will be a process to become registered, licensed and given a tax number for anyone who wants to follow the rules just the same as a winery or brewery. The challenge for current bm growers wanting to go legit will be having to cooperate with government and police instead of avoiding any contact.Hmm well will see, Liberals already stated harsher penalties for selling/distributing outside of the regulatory system.
https://www.liberal.ca/realchange/marijuana/
Yeah, likewise.i am glad you are stating this like you think it will happen....
Do tell. We have just had nearly a century of prohibition, but somehow legalization will be worse? What is going to get worse, exactly? You make absolutely no sense.its gonna get way worse before it gets better
All those in Prison will likely remain there, reason being is, they broke the law when it was in force and they were convicted. I did hear of a judge that gave a penalty of $1 to a french fella that had been caught with 30 plants.It's going to be interesting to see what happens to all of the people in prison for mj charges once it's legal. Especially those who may potentially get locked between now and next spring..
So the punishments for selling booze without proper permits are in place to protect who? You won't be able to grow commercially without a license and a tax number and a myriad of other regulations, just like you can't brew beer and sell it in a store without following rules. You don't see people being able to grow a few plants...I Do. You haven't given a valid reason why...other than some fictitious "protect the LP's" bs. You can't claim people will be hurt by laws that have yet to be developed, much less legislated. Most legal jurisdictions allow home grows, what would make you declare that Canada will somehow go the opposite route? You haven't answered how you think legalization is going to hurt people more than the last century of prohibition. Maybe try explaining that statement as a starting point to a intelligent discussion. Fact is, neither of us knows what the end result will be, but I'll put money on my prediction being a fuck of a lot closer to reality than your doom 'n gloom scenario. And no name calling...I don't have a good come back to "you are just pie in the sky and not near reality"....that was a good one...i am saying that if there are strict deterrent laws to protect whatever it is they feel they have to have these punishments
for ..protect the lp's..
people will have to suffer before things are sorted out like they sho uld be
1. everyone should be allowed to grow even if its not many plants..i do n ot see happening ..this will hurt people
2, allowing people to grow their own is the only way to rid of organized crime..not overly expensive corporative outlets
vianna you could look a little further instaed of saying things don't make sense....
you are just pie in the sky and not near reality..
i can live with that
at least you are not calling me a maggot..like last week or whatever[yawn]
your sillyness has no affect on me.
They are there to protect taxes collected by the government, and underage people.So the punishments for selling booze without proper permits are in place to protect who?
There are no legal jurisdictions in Canada that allow home growing.Most legal jurisdictions allow home grows
The sale of booze in Canada is taxed heavily, it would be easy to assume they will do the same with Weed. We call it a "SIN Tax" the same will happen when prostitution is legalized or regulated.what would make you declare that Canada will somehow go the opposite route?
Exactly. They are not there to protect "big booze".They are there to protect taxes collected by the government, and underage people.
I didn't say in Canada, obviously. Look at WA,Co,AK etc.There are no legal jurisdictions in Canada that allow home growing.
Buy from a store, pay tax. Grow yer own, tax free. Taxation will be a huge part of legalization just as it is for booze. It will have to be kept reasonable or it will backfire, but I don't have a problem with that. I've paid untold thousands of dollars in SIN tax when I drank alcohol and didn't complain and I hate to think what I've paid in tobacco tax...weed will be no different for up and coming generations. As long as we can all grow if we choose, who cares what they charge in taxes for rec?The sale of booze in Canada is taxed heavily, it would be easy to assume they will do the same with Weed. We call it a "SIN Tax" the same will happen when prostitution is legalized or regulated.