Obama pokes at Christianity

Flaming Pie

Well-Known Member
I don't see it as anti christian... his comments were factual. His intentions by stating them, I do not know.

Fact: The crusades did horrible things to non believers.

Fact: Christians can speak in hateful ways sometimes. We are human. It happens.
 

triumphman

Member
I think that in order to want to be a politician you have to be a certain personality type, then to survive and thrive in politics you have to be even more of a personality type... Very arrogant, think you know what's best, and power hungry. If you were any other type you wouldn't make it past being the president of an HOA or something like that.
 

triumphman

Member
I didn't see it as anti- Christian either, just more judgmental than he is on other religions when they do dumb things. Maybe he thinks since he considers himself Christian that he can call them out. Idk
 

triumphman

Member
I feel like these right to discriminate laws are going to be overturned as soon as someone takes it to court.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
I don't see it as anti christian... his comments were factual. His intentions by stating them, I do not know.

Fact: The crusades did horrible things to non believers.

Fact: Christians can speak in hateful ways sometimes. We are human. It happens.

The modern crusades replace forcing people to believe in a god, with subervience to godverment.

Fact : Governments do horrible things to people too, especially non believers.

Fact : All governments use the same tactics as inquisitors.
 

Flaming Pie

Well-Known Member
The modern crusades replace forcing people to believe in a god, with subervience to godverment.

Fact : Governments do horrible things to people too, especially non believers.

Fact : All governments use the same tactics as inquisitors.
Do you have to switch everything into a rant about your beliefs in no government?

Did I ever state anything about governments?
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
Do you have to switch everything into a rant about your beliefs in no government?

Did I ever state anything about governments?
Yes, you mentioned government, you invoked the latest messiah, his Obamaness...he is "government".

I'm fine with you having a government, just not fine with it automatically encompassing others using violence to achieve it.

I do tend to rant though, don't I? Sorry if you find that annoying.

I notice you didn't refute my comparisons though.
 

triumphman

Member
I see his point, the king was very wrapped up in religion, so he was presented as being holy. going against the king was like going against the curch . At least that's what I can make of it. Now going against the government's views is viewed as being unpatriotic.
 

TBoneJack

Well-Known Member
I don't see it as anti christian... his comments were factual. His intentions by stating them, I do not know.

Fact: The crusades did horrible things to non believers.

Fact: Christians can speak in hateful ways sometimes. We are human. It happens.
I wonder why he never points out "factual" things like the fact that some Muslim countries execute gays. He just never seems to point it out. I wonder if he even knows.

Obama claims and pretends to be a Christian, but he's definitely a Muslim homer.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
tell us again why you think that paying children for sex can be a "consensual" and "voluntary act".
Sure. Right after you tell me how the nature of an act, even a heinous, one can change whether or not the act was engaged in consensually.



Did you ever watch the movie Ground Hog day? Just wondering.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Sure. Right after you tell me how the nature of an act, even a heinous, one can change whether or not the act was engaged in consensually.
easy. children cannot consent to sex. it is called pedophilia.

now please tell us all why you think that paying children for sex can be "a voluntary act" and "consensual", as you have done before.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
easy. children cannot consent to sex. it is called pedophilia.

now please tell us all why you think that paying children for sex can be "a voluntary act" and "consensual", as you have done before.

So, if you were 15 and your 15 year old boyfriend diddled your baby boner, you couldn't have possibly consented to that?

I was younger than that and a female older than me jumped my bones, I didn't object. Are you saying it was not consensual? I went back for more and somehow didn't feel abused.

Also, can children consent to anything or are they only unable to consent to heinous things? How does that work?

You seem like you want to change the line of conversation to an allegation that I approve of pedo acts. That's intellectually dishonest, except you might be granted an exception, because you have no intellect to speak of.

So, how does the nature of an act, even if it is heinous, determine whether or not it involved consent?
 

testiclees

Well-Known Member
"Obama claims and pretends to be a Christian, but he's definitely a Muslim homer." <--- laughable babbling. Only a common and disrespectful idiot would refute anyone's religious affiliation.
 

triumphman

Member
Legally, if you aren't over the age of consent, then you can't give consent. Therefore I would say it's not consensual.
 

testiclees

Well-Known Member
So, if you were 15 and your 15 year old boyfriend diddled your baby boner, you couldn't have possibly consented to that?

I was younger than that and a female older than me jumped my bones, I didn't object. Are you saying it was not consensual? I went back for more and somehow didn't feel abused.

Also, can children consent to anything or are they only unable to consent to heinous things? How does that work?

You seem like you want to change the line of conversation to an allegation that I approve of pedo acts. That's intellectually dishonest, except you might be granted an exception, because you have no intellect to speak of.

So, how does the nature of an act, even if it is heinous, determine whether or not it involved consent?
Ironic that you say she's changing the line of the conversation when your first sentence starts in on a different topic.

Your teenage adventures are best kept to yourself. Trust me before you embarrass yourself further.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
Ironic that you say she's changing the line of the conversation when your first sentence starts in on a different topic.

Your teenage adventures are best kept to yourself. Trust me before you embarrass yourself further.
I appreciate your advice. You have alot of balls.
 
Top