Rocket Plasma, new(ish) plasma light

foreverflyhi

foreverflyhi

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Nice! Ur pics made me want to look in my plasma archive.





Couple key notes,

Plasma is def the fastest vegging light i ever used. The gsc litterraly grew right before my eyes.
Plasma gets dirty hot, but thats a good thing when it comes to plasma.
Oh yes i hit .7GPW which was not bad at all!
Fungus nats are very very attractive to the light, bunch crawled in the light and simply cooked to death lol. DONT STEP iNTO THE LIGHT!

My plasma are currently being used in conjuction with hid, seriously beautiful nugs plasma produces.
 
Silky Shagsalot

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i first heard of the plasma light years ago, and am glad it's finally on the market. "dirty hot???" i thought one of the main features of plasma, was it's ability to stay cooler than other lights....
 
foreverflyhi

foreverflyhi

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Silky Shagsalot said:
i first heard of the plasma light years ago, and am glad it's finally on the market. "dirty hot???" i thought one of the main features of plasma, was it's ability to stay cooler than other lights....
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Nope, plasma gets hot, ok maybe dirty hot was a bad example, not as hot as hid with out cool hoods, but still noticeable hot, u can put ur hand near the lens and its borderline hot/warm, touch the lens and u will quickly move ur hand. If u look for my plasma journal, my first couple days of running them i had horrible heat issues,
And if i remember correctly, the heat that plasma produces makes the unit run moreefficient

Edit: another key note: plasmas are super fkn heavy! Bent my gorrila grow tent pole!
 
Deusracing

Deusracing

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DJFlower said:
Hi PSUAGRO,
Thanks for replying. Yes, they are using Topanga technology, which broke off from Luxim. When you say "light engine" I assume you mean the bulb and it's shaft that inserts into the emitter. The emitter and power supply last much longer. However, the spectrum of their 3,000 Kelvin looks great compared to Luxim's higher Kelvin bulbs. Also Luxim can't change bulbs.
After reviewing the radiant flux of the 3,000 Kelvin bulb, I am amazed that gcrumpets obtained around 90% of an HPS yield per watt.
I know what Luxim's yields are. I've also grown using the LG 700 watt plasma in the 2000's and I can attest to the health of the plants. A lot depends on the chemicals used. I got 32.1% more yield per HPS watt using a 4,500 K LG bulb at 700 watts.
Luxim's yield compared to HPS differs so much from Rocket Plasma's 3,000 Kelvin bulb, according to gcrumpets that I'm wonderg if it's not only the lower Kelvin bulb, but Topanga has an overall higher efficiency then Luxim concerning their power supply, frequency used, and optical efficiency.
Has anyone else done tests on Rocket Plasma or Luxim plasmas to your knowledge?
Read this study:
SPECTRAL PROPERTIES OF MICROWAVE-POWERED SULFUR LAMPS IN COMPARISON TO SUNLIGHT AND HIGH PRESSURE SODIUM/METAL HALIDE LAMPS

Thanks for any assistance.
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The electronics they told me should be fine for at least 18 years
 
Deusracing

Deusracing

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OH by the way this grow is ROCKET PLASMA only i will not supplement any HID in this grow. PLASMA all the way to the end.. I wanna see if it will out perform the overpriced Gavita..
 
Deusracing

Deusracing

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foreverflyhi said:
Nope, plasma gets hot, ok maybe dirty hot was a bad example, not as hot as hid with out cool hoods, but still noticeable hot, u can put ur hand near the lens and its borderline hot/warm, touch the lens and u will quickly move ur hand. If u look for my plasma journal, my first couple days of running them i had horrible heat issues,
And if i remember correctly, the heat that plasma produces makes the unit run moreefficient

Edit: another key note: plasmas are super fkn heavy! Bent my gorrila grow tent pole!
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Hey MY plasma weighs in at 18 pounds and if thats heavy my friend you better start lifting more than 12 oz curls
 
foreverflyhi

foreverflyhi

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Deusracing said:
OH by the way this grow is ROCKET PLASMA only i will not supplement any HID in this grow. PLASMA all the way to the end.. I wanna see if it will out perform the overpriced Gavita..
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Gavita and your plasma and my plasma use the same plasma luxim, so in other words it wont do better, it wont due worse, i would judge it by price.

It will due fine by itself, however i think its best as a suplemental light imo
 
Deusracing

Deusracing

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Yeah Im not sure this is the same bulb that gavita uses. IF so i don't think it would flower veggies and produce fruit. Well anyways as long as it works honestly i don't give a damn cuz my grow costs less than yours LOL efficient
 
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DJFlower

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Good to know that you are only using Rocket Plasma's 3
foreverflyhi said:
Nice! Ur pics made me want to look in my plasma archive.





Couple key notes,

Plasma is def the fastest vegging light i ever used. The gsc litterraly grew right before my eyes.
Plasma gets dirty hot, but thats a good thing when it comes to plasma.
Oh yes i hit .7GPW which was not bad at all!
Fungus nats are very very attractive to the light, bunch crawled in the light and simply cooked to death lol. DONT STEP iNTO THE LIGHT!

My plasma are currently being used in conjuction with hid, seriously beautiful nugs plasma produces.
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Congrats on .7GPW! I assume you used Rocket 3000 K bulb from seed to the end of flowering? Do you mind stating your GPW for HPS as a comparison and what veg light you've used for flowering with HPS. Fantastic work.
 
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DJFlower

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Deusracing said:
OH by the way this grow is ROCKET PLASMA only i will not supplement any HID in this grow. PLASMA all the way to the end.. I wanna see if it will out perform the overpriced Gavita..
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Good Deusracing. Let's see how Rocket's 3000 K compares to Luxim's unit. Do you have a Luxim unit and of not what have you heard or read about the yield from Luxim's LEP plasmas? Appreciate the work you're doing.
 
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DJFlower

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foreverflyhi said:
Gavita and your plasma and my plasma use the same plasma luxim, so in other words it wont do better, it wont due worse, i would judge it by price.

It will due fine by itself, however i think its best as a suplemental light imo
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Luim and Rocket Plasma use different bulbs and they probably have different efficiencies in their emitter (frequency) given patents, reflector differences, etc.
 
Deusracing

Deusracing

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Well I will say in going to veg her two more weeks under net beat the shit out of her cut her ass up n flip the switch. And watch the sea of colas emerge
 
Deusracing

Deusracing

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DJFlower said:
Topanga uses a 3000 K bulb and Luxim uses the 41.01 and 41.02 bulbs I think. They are higher Kelvins.
As for efficiency go to Lighting Research Center com. Topanga is more efficient technology speaking and the 3000 K Topanga bulb is superior in flowering.
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Thank you for explaining all this to people. Tanya at rocket ensured me that this will take me all the way through. And if it does not money back. So if that isn't worth a test then I'm not sure what is.
Here's my deal. I'm laid off bored and like to grow lots of things. And well these lamps are expensive. But they yield and have better canopy penetration than most 400w-600w. I'm all bout conserving energy getting kick ass smoke and good veggies cheapest and most effective. And my smoke. Lol lets just say I tried the Colorado top shelf shit. It's got nothing on what my ol Skool strains do. Happy growing people keep checking if ur interested in it if u wanna bash or talk sit bout my plasma. Move on u posers
 
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DJFlower

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Deusracing said:
Thank you for explaining all this to people. Tanya at rocket ensured me that this will take me all the way through. And if it does not money back. So if that isn't worth a test then I'm not sure what is.
Here's my deal. I'm laid off bored and like to grow lots of things. And well these lamps are expensive. But they yield and have better canopy penetration than most 400w-600w. I'm all bout conserving energy getting kick ass smoke and good veggies cheapest and most effective. And my smoke. Lol lets just say I tried the Colorado top shelf shit. It's got nothing on what my ol Skool strains do. Happy growing people keep checking if ur interested in it if u wanna bash or talk sit bout my plasma. Move on u posers
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So Rocket Plasma/Tanya said that if their 235 watt plasma does not yield as much as a 600 watt HPS?? then Rocket Plasma will refund you the money you paid? A 600 watt has about 215 watts in the 400-700 nm range. This would lead to the conclusion that the 235 watt unit has around 215 watts in the 400-700 nm range, which is not possible due to the law of physics right. There is ballast/power supply loss, radio frequency loss, and emission loss from the bulb (i.e heat). Even using plasma in veg and flowering and doing the same with an HPS wouldn't be near this claim. But Deusracing good job on negotiating this deal.

Keep me up to date buddy on your plasma grow.
 
Deusracing

Deusracing

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DJFlower said:
So Rocket Plasma/Tanya said that if their 235 watt plasma does not yield as much as a 600 watt HPS?? then Rocket Plasma will refund you the money you paid? A 600 watt has about 215 watts in the 400-700 nm range. This would lead to the conclusion that the 235 watt unit has around 215 watts in the 400-700 nm range, which is not possible due to the law of physics right. There is ballast/power supply loss, radio frequency loss, and emission loss from the bulb (i.e heat). Even using plasma in veg and flowering and doing the same with an HPS wouldn't be near this claim. But Deusracing good job on negotiating this deal.

Keep me up to date buddy on your plasma grow.
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NO NO Its guaranteed to take it from seed to flower without the help of supplement HPS like gavita.. IF it cannot take me into flowering YEs I will get back what was invested.
 
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Deusracing said:
NO NO Its guaranteed to take it from seed to flower without the help of supplement HPS like gavita.. IF it cannot take me into flowering YEs I will get back what was invested.
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I thought it was too good to be true. So the offer is the plasma will get you to the point of flowering but not actual flowering? I must be confused as plasma is a tremendous veg light. Just need to know if it can go from seed to end of flowering and what the yield is compared to the grower's average HPS yield. At 3000 K it'll hold it's own in flowering no doubt. HPS is around 2100 K. Regardless keep up the good work buddy. :)
 
Deusracing

Deusracing

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gcrumpets said:
Anyone else caught wind of these yet? rocketplasma.com The company is called Rocket plasma, apprently some of the same peeps behind beneficial biologics/primodrial solutions (also good stuff btw). they stopped by my store a couple weeks back doing a promo tour for their new light and i had to bite the bullet. UPS dropped off two this morning :mrgreen:

they say its the only plasma with a hefty red spectrum to replace (not supplement) a HPS, ive heard good things from people using the gavita's but they all seemed to agree it doesnt hold up flowering on its own. Im pretty excited to give this light a go round and was just curious as to what other people have seen/heard about it. I couldnt find any threads or journals of people using them (pretty new still). Worms way was some test videos of it floating around but nothing very indepth. While talking with the maker he seemed pretty confident about it holding its own against a 600w yeild wise, over a 4x4 area.... so we will see.

this isnt a journal or anything, i literally just opened the box and set one unit up as an in store display, but so far im impressed, they appear very well made... and bright! gonna take the other one home and put it in a 4' x 12'room with 2 Digilux 600's, with its own 4x4 area to grow and see what happens. should have it up and flowering with the next week or so. im pumped.

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I never asked but have you gone through flower yet with it. Just the plasma itself. Im still 6 weeks out was gonna flower sooner but going to bush her out and scrog her..
 
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