Yesterday's Mass Shooting.

natureboygrower

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A ton of rumors going around the state right now, but possibly in retaliation of being forced out of the guard. Police Departments in other counties are taking note, where some of their own officers served with Card ( in the Guard )Towns in those counties are taking extra precautions
 

DIY-HP-LED

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A ton of rumors going around the state right now, but possibly in retaliation of being forced out of the guard. Police Departments in other counties are taking note, where some of their own officers served with Card ( in the Guard )Towns in those counties are taking extra precautions
Heavily armed dangerous and crazy, did no one think to take his guns when he lost his marbles?
 

natureboygrower

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Heavily armed dangerous and crazy, did no one think to take his guns when he lost his marbles?
Well, of course that's what we are all thinking. Guy was evaluated earlier in the Summer, admitting to hearing voices. I would like to think someone jotted something down somewhere. Lewiston has a large mental health facility within it's city so he definitely slipped through the cracks and was forgotten about.
 

Kerowacked

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I reacted the same at first to whak's post but decided to wait and see. Now that information has appeared regarding the victims, it's clear that victims who have been identified thus far are not Somali. Nor was the shooter. According to the AP, Lewiston Police said the shooting took place on Wednesday evening at Schemengees Bar and Grille and at Sparetime Recreation, a bowling alley about 4 miles (6.4 kilometers) away. A number of parents and children were at Sparetime as part of a children’s bowling league.

I don't know why anybody would make a post like @Kerowacked 's. It's up to him to explain himself. Or not.
First thing that came to mind, another racist, i was wrong, EXCUUUUUSE ME
 

OldMedUser

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Heavily armed dangerous and crazy, did no one think to take his guns when he lost his marbles?
2nd amendment and all that malarkey prevents common sense enforcement like that. As much as it's a PITA getting a firearms permit here and having to get my spousal unit to sign off that she's OK with me getting it at least my mental state isn't in question. Or maybe I'm just good at faking it! Bwahahahah! I've had guns all along so it's rather a moot point.

If I started going off the rails she could tell the RCMP that she has concerns and they would show up and remove all my weapons until I had a mental evaluation tho. Maybe stuff like that is why we don't have a couple mass shootings every day like our overly armed neighbours to the south.

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natureboygrower

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2nd amendment and all that malarkey prevents common sense enforcement like that. As much as it's a PITA getting a firearms permit here and having to get my spousal unit to sign off that she's OK with me getting it at least my mental state isn't in question. Or maybe I'm just good at faking it! Bwahahahah! I've had guns all along so it's rather a moot point.

If I started going off the rails she could tell the RCMP that she has concerns and they would show up and remove all my weapons until I had a mental evaluation tho. Maybe stuff like that is why we don't have a couple mass shootings every day like our overly armed neighbours to the south.

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I agree with this. Kind of like the baker act in Fla. You can have a family member evaluated for 48 hrs if signs of violence/ hurting themselves.
The question is how do we monitor the anonymous mentally ill? Which this guy clearly wasnt and he still killed.
 

sunni

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2nd amendment and all that malarkey prevents common sense enforcement like that. As much as it's a PITA getting a firearms permit here and having to get my spousal unit to sign off that she's OK with me getting it at least my mental state isn't in question. Or maybe I'm just good at faking it! Bwahahahah! I've had guns all along so it's rather a moot point.

If I started going off the rails she could tell the RCMP that she has concerns and they would show up and remove all my weapons until I had a mental evaluation tho. Maybe stuff like that is why we don't have a couple mass shootings every day like our overly armed neighbours to the south.

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there are still shootings though and gun violence. sadly
 

OldMedUser

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there are still shootings though and gun violence. sadly
True that but most shootings here in Canukistan are targeted and rarely randoms blazing away at the general population. The majority are gang related using unregistered restricted or prohibited weapons smuggled in from the states too.

Even if someone got hold of my guns they are no more dangerous than a baseball bat as all my ammo is locked in my office safe and damn near impossible to get into short of using explosives.

Could always be improved upon but Trudeau is going about it the wrong way by targeting 'Assault style' rifles and handguns that affect legal gun owners rather then more enforcement of illegal guns and gun smuggling. Stuff like the failed registration of long guns like the Libs tried 20 years ago is not going to stop what killings we have now.

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sunni

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True that but most shootings here in Canukistan are targeted and rarely randoms blazing away at the general population. The majority are gang related using unregistered restricted or prohibited weapons smuggled in from the states too.

Even if someone got hold of my guns they are no more dangerous than a baseball bat as all my ammo is locked in my office safe and damn near impossible to get into short of using explosives.

Could always be improved upon but Trudeau is going about it the wrong way by targeting 'Assault style' rifles and handguns that affect legal gun owners rather then more enforcement of illegal guns and gun smuggling. Stuff like the failed registration of long guns like the Libs tried 20 years ago is not going to stop what killings we have now.

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it still could be better, theres always room for improvement! good for you for being responsible and locking up your ammo , my dad does as well but im sure others done.
 

printer

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"I know the answer."

New Speaker Says Prayer a Proper Response to Shootings
Republican Mike Johnson is the new speaker of the House, but the Donald Trump ally inherits many of the same political problems that have tormented past GOP leaders, tested their grasp of the gavel and eventually chased them from office.

The House convened Thursday with a bustle of activity, making up for lost time during the weeks of chaos since Rep. Kevin McCarthy was ousted as speaker. But the initial goodwill toward Johnson blurs the political fault lines challenging the Louisianan's ability to lead the GOP majority as it faces daunting issues ahead.

In an early test, the mass shootings in Maine, Johnson said prayer was a proper response from the House. “This is a dark time in America,” Johnson said at the Capitol on his first full day as speaker.

“We’re really, really hopeful and prayerful,” he said. “Prayer is appropriate at a time like this, that the evil can end and the senseless violence can stop.”

Johnson, a staunchly conservative evangelical Christian, declined to take any questions, including about the possibility of any gun violence legislation from Congress.

There are more challenges coming.

By Nov. 17, the Congress must fund the government again or risk a federal shutdown. President Joe Biden wants an additional $105 billion in military and humanitarian aid for Israel and Ukraine. And Republicans are eager to resume their impeachment inquiry into Biden over his son Hunter's business dealings.

“This has been a grueling process,” Johnson said Wednesday after his ascension. "The challenge before us is great but the time for action is now, and I will not let you down.

Johnson, 51, swept through on the first ballot with support from all Republicans anxious to put weeks of tumult behind and get on with the business of governing. He was quickly sworn as speaker and is now second in line to the presidency, after the vice president.

A lower-ranked member of the House GOP leadership team, Johnson emerged as the fourth Republican nominee in what had become an almost absurd cycle of political infighting since McCarthy's removal as party factions jockeyed for power.

While not the Republicans' top choice, Johnson had few foes and an important backer in Donald Trump.

“He’s a tremendous leader,” Trump said Wednesday at the New York courthouse where the former president, he Republican front-runner for president in 2024, is on trial over a lawsuit alleging business fraud.

Biden called to congratulate the new speaker and said it’s “time for all of us to act responsibly” to fund the government and provide aid for Ukraine and Israel.

“We need to move swiftly,” the president said in a statement.

On Thursday, Johnson sat down with Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, who told reporters afterward that he had a “very good” meeting with the new speaker.

Johnson, who has been in office less than a decade, drew together fellow Republicans through his faith, conservative roots and Trump’s nod after more seasoned leaders had failed. Far-right members in the House had refused to accept a more traditional speaker, and moderate conservatives did not want a hard-liner.

“You watch and see how much this House of Representatives can actually get done under Mike Johnson," said Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz, who the eight hard-liners who ousted McCarthy.

Democrats said Johnson, a lawyer specializing in constitutional issues, was an extreme conservative, a strict opponent of abortion access and an architect of Trump's legal effort to overturn the 2020 presidential election he lost to Democrat Biden.

“Republicans have chosen a MAGA acolyte to push an extreme agenda in the House at the expense of middle-class families,” said Washington Rep. Suzan DelBene, the chair of the Democrats' campaign committee, referring to Trump's “Make America Great Again” campaign slogan.

After Johnson's election, lawmakers quickly reconvened and approved a resolution Wednesday saying the House “stands with Israel” and “condemns Hamas’ brutal war.” They next turned to a stalled government funding bill.

Rather than take a scheduled work period at home, Republicans rearranged the House calendar to return to Washington next week and keep pushing through the various government funding bills before the Nov. 17 deadline.

In a letter to colleagues, Johnson outlined priorities that include providing a short-term funding bill, into next year, to prevent a November shutdown — almost the same move that led to McCarthy's ouster.

While Johnson has spoken of the importance of helping fund Israel in the fight against Hamas, he has shown little interest in providing more money for Ukraine as it battles Russia.

Most Republicans voted against the budget deal McCarthy struck with Biden earlier this year, demanding steeper spending cuts. Johnson will need to navigate the far-right demands with the realities of keeping the government functioning.

Similar Republican infighting chased three other GOP speakers — John Boehner of Ohio, Paul Ryan of Wisconsin and Newt Gingrich of Georgia — to early departures. The difference now is that Republican rules allow any single lawmaker to force a vote to remove the speaker from office, the threat that ultimately toppled McCarthy.

Johnson's rise comes after a tumultuous month, capped by a head-spinning Tuesday, when one candidate for speaker, Minnesota Rep. Tom Emmer, was nominated and then quickly withdraw after Trump bashed the nomination.

Soon, endorsements for Johnson started pouring in, including from the failed speaker hopefuls. Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan, the hard-charging House Judiciary Committee chairman backed by Trump, gave his support. Majority Leader Steve Scalise of Louisiana, who had been rejected by Jordan’s wing, stood behind Johnson after he won the nomination.

“Our mission here is to serve you well and to restore the people’s faith in this House," Johnson said to the American people who were watching.

Huh? Only a few lines on the shooting? The title click bate?
 

printer

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Blame it on the liberals.

DeSantis points to ‘liberal, soft on crime policies’ in wake of Maine mass shooting
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) pointed to “liberal, soft on crime” policies in the wake of a mass shooting in Maine that left 18 people dead earlier this week.

“[Y]ou look, a lot of the guys who commit violent crime, and yes, less than what we saw in Maine, a lot of these people go in and out of the justice system because of liberal, soft on crime policies,” DeSantis, a 2024 GOP presidential candidate, said in a Fox News interview Friday.

“You do a crime, you should do the time; stop cycling people back out,” DeSantis continued. “That will make communities safer, and Biden doesn’t wanna do that.”

The shooting occurred late Wednesday, across multiple locations in Lewiston, Maine, leaving at least 18 people dead and 13 injured. The suspect, Robert Card, 40, has not been apprehended and there is an ongoing search for him.

The shooting drew calls among Democrats for gun regulation, including Maine Rep. Jared Golden, the representative of the district where the shooting occurred. Golden had previously opposed efforts to ban assault rifles, but he now has pledged to pursue them in the wake of the shooting.
“… Because of a false confidence that our community was above this and that we could be in full control, among many other misjudgments, I have opposed efforts to ban deadly weapons of war, like the assault rifle used to carry out this crime,” Golden said at a press conference Thursday.

“The time has now come for me to take responsibility for this failure, which is why I now call on the United States Congress to ban assault rifles, like the one used by the sick perpetrator of this mass killing in my hometown of Lewiston, Maine,” Golden continued. “For the good of my community, I will work with any colleague to get this done in the time that I have left in Congress.”
 

BudmanTX

Well-Known Member
"I know the answer."

New Speaker Says Prayer a Proper Response to Shootings
Republican Mike Johnson is the new speaker of the House, but the Donald Trump ally inherits many of the same political problems that have tormented past GOP leaders, tested their grasp of the gavel and eventually chased them from office.

The House convened Thursday with a bustle of activity, making up for lost time during the weeks of chaos since Rep. Kevin McCarthy was ousted as speaker. But the initial goodwill toward Johnson blurs the political fault lines challenging the Louisianan's ability to lead the GOP majority as it faces daunting issues ahead.

In an early test, the mass shootings in Maine, Johnson said prayer was a proper response from the House. “This is a dark time in America,” Johnson said at the Capitol on his first full day as speaker.

“We’re really, really hopeful and prayerful,” he said. “Prayer is appropriate at a time like this, that the evil can end and the senseless violence can stop.”

Johnson, a staunchly conservative evangelical Christian, declined to take any questions, including about the possibility of any gun violence legislation from Congress.

There are more challenges coming.

By Nov. 17, the Congress must fund the government again or risk a federal shutdown. President Joe Biden wants an additional $105 billion in military and humanitarian aid for Israel and Ukraine. And Republicans are eager to resume their impeachment inquiry into Biden over his son Hunter's business dealings.

“This has been a grueling process,” Johnson said Wednesday after his ascension. "The challenge before us is great but the time for action is now, and I will not let you down.

Johnson, 51, swept through on the first ballot with support from all Republicans anxious to put weeks of tumult behind and get on with the business of governing. He was quickly sworn as speaker and is now second in line to the presidency, after the vice president.

A lower-ranked member of the House GOP leadership team, Johnson emerged as the fourth Republican nominee in what had become an almost absurd cycle of political infighting since McCarthy's removal as party factions jockeyed for power.

While not the Republicans' top choice, Johnson had few foes and an important backer in Donald Trump.

“He’s a tremendous leader,” Trump said Wednesday at the New York courthouse where the former president, he Republican front-runner for president in 2024, is on trial over a lawsuit alleging business fraud.

Biden called to congratulate the new speaker and said it’s “time for all of us to act responsibly” to fund the government and provide aid for Ukraine and Israel.

“We need to move swiftly,” the president said in a statement.

On Thursday, Johnson sat down with Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, who told reporters afterward that he had a “very good” meeting with the new speaker.

Johnson, who has been in office less than a decade, drew together fellow Republicans through his faith, conservative roots and Trump’s nod after more seasoned leaders had failed. Far-right members in the House had refused to accept a more traditional speaker, and moderate conservatives did not want a hard-liner.

“You watch and see how much this House of Representatives can actually get done under Mike Johnson," said Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz, who the eight hard-liners who ousted McCarthy.

Democrats said Johnson, a lawyer specializing in constitutional issues, was an extreme conservative, a strict opponent of abortion access and an architect of Trump's legal effort to overturn the 2020 presidential election he lost to Democrat Biden.

“Republicans have chosen a MAGA acolyte to push an extreme agenda in the House at the expense of middle-class families,” said Washington Rep. Suzan DelBene, the chair of the Democrats' campaign committee, referring to Trump's “Make America Great Again” campaign slogan.

After Johnson's election, lawmakers quickly reconvened and approved a resolution Wednesday saying the House “stands with Israel” and “condemns Hamas’ brutal war.” They next turned to a stalled government funding bill.

Rather than take a scheduled work period at home, Republicans rearranged the House calendar to return to Washington next week and keep pushing through the various government funding bills before the Nov. 17 deadline.

In a letter to colleagues, Johnson outlined priorities that include providing a short-term funding bill, into next year, to prevent a November shutdown — almost the same move that led to McCarthy's ouster.

While Johnson has spoken of the importance of helping fund Israel in the fight against Hamas, he has shown little interest in providing more money for Ukraine as it battles Russia.

Most Republicans voted against the budget deal McCarthy struck with Biden earlier this year, demanding steeper spending cuts. Johnson will need to navigate the far-right demands with the realities of keeping the government functioning.

Similar Republican infighting chased three other GOP speakers — John Boehner of Ohio, Paul Ryan of Wisconsin and Newt Gingrich of Georgia — to early departures. The difference now is that Republican rules allow any single lawmaker to force a vote to remove the speaker from office, the threat that ultimately toppled McCarthy.

Johnson's rise comes after a tumultuous month, capped by a head-spinning Tuesday, when one candidate for speaker, Minnesota Rep. Tom Emmer, was nominated and then quickly withdraw after Trump bashed the nomination.

Soon, endorsements for Johnson started pouring in, including from the failed speaker hopefuls. Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan, the hard-charging House Judiciary Committee chairman backed by Trump, gave his support. Majority Leader Steve Scalise of Louisiana, who had been rejected by Jordan’s wing, stood behind Johnson after he won the nomination.

“Our mission here is to serve you well and to restore the people’s faith in this House," Johnson said to the American people who were watching.

Huh? Only a few lines on the shooting? The title click bate?
as per usual the idea of guns legislation is just a talking point for the GOP, they don't wanna upset they're masters in the NRA
 

DIY-HP-LED

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as per usual the idea of guns legislation is just a talking point for the GOP, they don't wanna upset they're masters in the NRA
Guns, abortion, crazy, and Trump going down might add up to the perfect storm for the republicans in Nov of 24. Trump being disqualified and convicted will be traumatic for the base, but there are many republicans in congress who will be relieved when he is jailed and muzzled. Whether they have enough time to memory hole him and put lipstick on the pig remains to be seen. His trials will haunt them during the primaries and election season, so memory holing Donald might not work so well with a TV trial in Georgia next summer. The republican house speaker is the poster boy for anti-abortion and should arouse the ladies of America in a most unpleasant way!
 
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